Evidence Mounts: Fructose and Glucose Synthesized differently by Body

[Mike 03]

After oscillating back and forth on this issue for a couple of years, I'm beginning to think this notion that there is no difference between how a human body synthesizes glucose and high fructose corn syrup is just a fabrication of the corn industry.

This week ReachMD (XM satellite radio) was running some of these stories, and here are some of the headlines and links.




Fructose But Not Glucose-Sweetened Beverages Increased Insulin Resistance And Belly Fat In Overweight And Obese People, Study

We all know that too much sugar is not good for us, but researchers from the US have discovered that drinks sweetened with fructose as opposed to glucose were significantly more likely to increase insulin resistance and belly fat in obese and overweight people, leading to medical conditions that increased their risk of heart attack and stroke.

MORE HERE:

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/147135.php

Fructose Sweetened Drinks Increase Nonfasting Triglycerides In Obese Adults

Obese people who drink fructose-sweetened beverages with their meals have an increased rise of triglycerides following the meal, according to new research from the Monell Center.

"Increased triglycerides after a meal are known predictors of cardiovascular disease," says Monell Member and study lead author Karen L. Teff, PhD, a metabolic physiologist. "Our findings show that fructose-sweetened beverages raise triglyceride levels in obese people, who already are at risk for metabolic disorders such as cardiovascular disease and diabetes."

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/138862.php

New Data On Fructose-Sweetened Beverages And Hepatic Metabolism

According to figures published by the World Health Organization (WHO), in the year 2015 some 2.3 billion adults will be overweight and more than 700 million will suffer from obesity, a pathology which is increasingly being seen in children. In addition, for some time now the high incidence of obesity in developed countries has coincided with an increase in the consumption of beverages sweetened with fructose, a powerful sweetener. A team from the University of Barcelona (UB) has recently published a study in the journal Hepatology which provides clues to the molecular mechanism through which the fructose in beverages may alter lipid energy metabolism and cause fatty liver and metabolic syndrome.

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/65470.php






This has traditionally been a hot topic here so I would not be surprised had this been posted previously; if so, I'm sorry.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

1. So people should avoid apples, oranges, and honey?

[dorkulon]

3. People don't drink buckets of apple juice daily. nt

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

7. So I shouldn't supplement my healthy diet with fruit and honey.

OK.

[dorkulon]

8. Yeah. That's what I said.

OK.

[hlthe2b]

9. Very different to discuss fiber-filled fruits versus

high fructose corn syrup. Is this not apparent?


Fiber, (and fat & protein) for that matter slows metabolism, reducing the rapid insulin "rush" and subsequent dramatic blood glucose drop that is so detrimental...

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

10. "Is this not apparent?"

No.

[hlthe2b]

11. I added comments above.

by way of explanation.

[HysteryDiagnosis]

12. I avoid them while driving.... could go into a skid on them

damn things.

[conscious evolution]

17. only if it has high fructose corn syryp added to it.

The shits poison

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

23. That's my point.

Apples, orange juice, and honey have high fructose.

Roughly the same proportion as HFCS.

[conscious evolution]

26. Natural fructose

Not some shit spat out of a factory.
Big differance.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

28. "Big differance."

Actually, no.

Fructose is fructose is fructose.

[KittyWampus]

33. No, fructose that occurs in fruit has fiber along with it. Your constant attempts to sound informed

as usual, make you appear foolish.

By the way, is a coca leaf the same cocaine the same as crack?

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

39. So you're saying we should drink Mountain Dew with a metamucil chaser.

Here's the cocaine found in coca leaves.



Here's the cocaine found in cocaine.



Here's the cocaine found in crack cocaine.

[arthritisR_US]

44. that's not what she was saying at all. Giving the chemical formula for cocaine in all it's various

forms is like me giving you the chemical formula for water, ice and vapor, i.e., 2 Hydrogen and one oxygen...:eyes:

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

46. Actually, it's the logical conclusion of what she's saying.

She's saying the problem isn't fructose, but a lack of fiber.

"Giving the chemical formula for cocaine in all it's various forms is like me giving you the chemical formula for water, ice and vapor, i.e., 2 Hydrogen and one oxygen..."

And?

[dorkulon]

2. I buy it.

People got fat so fast, it seemed bizarre. But I bet there's a direct correlation there.

[piedmont]

4. You mean "catabolize" -- not "synthesize" nt

[Sebastian Doyle]

5. And right on cue..... reply #1 from the Monsanto shill.

Hopefully the sales of Pepsi & Mountain Dew "throwback" and recently reformulated Snapple & SOBE drinks will be enough of a clue to food & beverage makers that people don't want to consume that goddamned toxic HFCS poison anymore.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

6. Ah, and now here come the twoofers.

"Hopefully the sales of Pepsi & Mountain Dew "throwback" and recently reformulated Snapple & SOBE drinks will be enough of a clue to food & beverage makers that people don't want to consume that goddamned toxic HFCS poison anymore."

Aren't they just reformulating because the price of corn has shot up?

[MADem]

13. What? Do you know for a fact that Poster Number One is a "Monsanto Shill?"

IF you don't, you really are out of line accusing the person of being one, simply for challenging the thesis of the thread, or requesting clarification and context.

[Sebastian Doyle]

14. Jesus Christ on a nuclear powered pogo stick

Have you READ his posts in any thread where the toxic mutant corn poison is mentioned?

Nobody does that for free.

[Coventina]

15. LOL!

The mental image your reply conjured was....

well, as that chick on Will & Grace said, "It's funny 'cuz it's blasphemous."

[Sebastian Doyle]

18. Maybe this will help?

[MADem]

20. That's quite brilliant, actually! nt

[Coventina]

21. ROFL! AWESOME!!!

Maybe I'm just in a silly mood, but that really tickles my funny bone!!

[kath]

34. I like Jesus better on a trailer hitch...

(don't know how to post pics, but it's one of my all-time faves!)

[Horse with no Name]

43. Ask and ye shall receive

[kath]

45. many thanks!

even though it's been 4+ years, seeing that pic still leaves me shaking my head and laughing. Wow - just wow.

[MADem]

19. No, I haven't. But "calling someone out" and accusing them of being a paid poster is not on.

This is DU. A lot of people do unusual stuff "for free."

For all you know, he could be a corn farmer.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

30. By a simple extension of your logic...

You are a paid shill for Big Sugarcane.

Which kills thousands of people every year with complications due to diabetes, metabolic syndrome, and cruelly oppresses third-world workers. All to make a little money of their toxic mutant sugarcane poison.

I don't think you're really a paid shill for Big Sugarcane, Sebastian.

I just think you don't know what you're talking about.

[Sebastian Doyle]

41. Get the Hawaiians on the phone, I could use the money.

Sure, I'll shill for natural sugar. Wouldn't feel the least bit guilty in doing so.

**opens another perfectly chilled Pepsi Throwback**

[Scout]

42. i did a taste test with both throwbacks ... Mt Dew and Pepsi

and i could definitely taste a difference ... and i preferred the throwback versions

i've basically given up drinking pop entirely though (i do have some occasionally, but not daily like i used to)

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

25. It's the standard canard every time unsatisfactory science is brought up.

It's like Creationists with their accusations of "godless communism" or whatnot.

[MADem]

29. So, tell me, how much does Monsanto pay you? Can you make a living from it?

:rofl: :rofl:

Please know that I'm only KEEEEEEEEEEDING!!!! I figured some one would say it, so I might as well be first out of the gate!

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

31. Basically, it's an instant knee jerk conspiracy theory.

Sebastian believes that I'm conspiring with Monsanto to confuse and enrage him with rebuttals and logic.

If you look at the health, science, pseudoscience groups, etc. you'll see this "monsanto shill" and "big shill" ad hominem pop up every time somebody loses an argument.

[MADem]

38. Well, I am no scientist and I don't know what the "truth" is.

I will say that I like food better without sweeteners added to them, be they HFCS or sugar, for the most part. And I do prefer the taste of sugar to HFCS, if I have a choice (though half the time I'll just skip the sweet thing).

Some people have a sweet tooth, others have a more savory one -- I'm a savory type.

[KittyWampus]

37. Oh, that's not a Monsanto shill. But it is a DU'er who thinks he's smart and funny

but really just a fool.

[Coventina]

24. My husband and I did a blind taste test with Pepsi Throwback & regular Pepsi

We each were able to identify which was which.

And we both preferred the Throwback.

[texastoast]

16. Yay for Dublin Dr Pepper

Sweetened with Imperial Pure Cane Sugar. Now if they will just make it organic.

Dublin Dr Pepper is available only in Central Texas (and some HEB stores). It's one of the best things about "Bush country.". It uses the original formula and I buy a case every time we go through there with our Obama sticker proudly on display. Tastes sooo much better. Mexican
Coke does too. We can get that around here.




.

[Sebastian Doyle]

22. I wish Costco would pickup the Dublin Dr. Pepper like they did MexiCoke

Another reason to drink Dublin Dr. Pepper is that - even though it's made in "Bush Country" at least it's not owned by the Bush Crime Family (Carlyle Group).

Regular Dr. Pepper, unfortunately is. :evilfrown:

[jmowreader]

27. I'll agree about Mexican Coke

Fiesta Mart in Texas (an "international" supermarket--lots of non-US foods, mostly Mexican as you can tell from the name) sells Mexican Coke. The classroom and offices of the driving school I went to are next to a Fiesta Mart...I saw some Mexican Coke on display and bought two bottles...the next day I went back and bought a whole case. It didn't last that long.

[BlooInBloo]

32. It's amazing we're still alive.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

35. It's probably an ancient Maya conspiracy.

If they hadn't first cultivated mutant varieties of maize and forced us to eat it for all these years, none of this wouldn't have happened. They clearly all planned this to destroy the world in 2012.

[nadinbrzezinski]

36. I see the shills have shown up

this is part of the national health care reform... it falls under .... national food policy.

And if you guys think taking on Pharma and the health care industry has been fun, wait, AG interests are just as bad.

And yes the evidence is also increasing that the food industry has created rather addictive products...

Now our government should ban this Corn Syrup from food products... will take quite a fight .

On and tangentially relevant to this

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=5907071&mesg_id=5907071

[Odin2005]

40. This bio-chem major sez "NO DUH!!!"

[hunter]

47. High fructose corn syrup keeps us fat and happy.

Without it we'd be tipping over cars and blocking the streets like they do in France whenever the government does something the people don't like. The government would be scared of the people, and we can't have that in the U.S., it's bad for business.

Be a good sheep. Have another soda, extra giant supersize!

Yum, yum, Baaaaaaaaa......