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Gman2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 10:34 AM
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I've Been Outted
I was just like all of you. Working and happy. Then, there came a certain point in my life, where I had to admit that I needed to do an act that most feel repugnant. The act itself is FUN! However many times I do it, I get the same kick from it. In fact, I really feel that I could not live without the act. But it's not ALL about the act. It makes my whole life blossom.. Most in our society wont even allow this act, no matter how much you declare you MUST do the act. But I digress.

Three nights ago, at midnight, I had four cops banging and ringing on my door. I was asleep. Because I commit the act, I lead a real simple, quiet life. They said that a neighbor called and said that I was having a huge fight with a girl, and throwing her and things around. Now, up till now, I had been scared to death, that someone very prejudiced against my kind would learn of my doing the act. You see, we dont have any cool people. No entertainers, no pundits. While, TECHNICALLY, the constitution seems to protect me, It's a crap{cop} shoot, literally. So, back to the four cops at my door. One says that he sat there and heard a woman crying. He says that he can come in, whether I like it or not, no warrant needed. I, just asleep thirty seconds ago, says I protest. I finally say, that I protest, but I certainly cannot physically do anything to stop them, so do what they are going to do.

Now, in my mind, I know that there are signs of me doing the act, ALL OVER THE PLACE. I couldn't even process that I had no constitution. No fourth amendment. They were going to learn all about me, and the act. And it wasn't pretty. They cuffed me, and placed me on the couch. They said something about a 10-19. At first I was quiet. I said I had a liscense even to say that I was allowed. They said they had NEVER heard of that. One cop made a discouraging remark about the act, and about those that perfomed the act. The head cop had aririved, and he said it wasn't looking good. I was already outted, so I began to preach my constitutional right to perform my act. I had three cops with me, in a semicircle. Teaching them about me, and my kind. And how much we need to do the act. We feel our very lives depend on it. And how in my instance, it was proven. This was at least a half hour sermon. Then, a cop finishes searching my upstairs, and says, who do I have in my crawlspace. You see, some think that those like me are depraved. They villify us. And now they all will know about me. Likely talk to all their buddies when they get back to the station. I answer noone. He asks me again, I am PIQUED. I answer Jimmy Hoffa. he says that an answer of any kind entitled him to check my attic for further evidence of me doing the act. But they said it was to check if I had a Rick James thingie going on. At the same time, they looked all over my house, making disparaging remarks about me, and saying that I didn't deserve to live this well, as I was a parriah. they were getting ready to feel OK about ruining my life. I stood my ground, and proceeded as Jesus did against Pilot. I claimed my life. And defended it, as if my life depended on it. It did. I told them how I am barred from employment. I told them how I can never get health insurance, as long as I commit the act. I live in fear of any kind of trouble. That it would end up just like it did. With my home crawling with cops. Appearing to follow no known constitution. That they only let you commit the act when you are doomed. And even then, they look for reasons why your character, or other irrelevancy entitles you to harrassment, if not life in prison. I talked for two hours straight. I told my life story in bold, brash strokes. I defended my life. There was something even cathartic about it. It couldnt get any worse than this, in this world. I had faced jackbooted thugs, crashing my door, and imprisoning me, and interrogating, looking for the slightest misword, entitling them to further raping my constitution. They took pictures, and said they needed a picture of me, as well. I smiled broadly into the camera. As one cop left, he gave me some advice. He said that next time, let the cops right in, as my protesting having my home crawling with cops, was the very thing, that made me look suspicious. I remarked that if I had known that they were pals, I would have. Now that I know, I certainly will. Did I mention as an aside, that the constitution is null and void?

I am a medical marijuana patient. We hide. Don't make waves. We survive the best we can. Marinol in pill form, makes you paranoid. It makes you also completely useless. I grow my own, as I certainly cannot afford it otherwise. If I dont have it, my lungs fill up with fluid, like being waterboarded, every night, till you die. I have heart failure. Enlarged heart. Bad Mitral and Aortal vlaves. Medical Marijuana allows me to eat without throwing up, or not feeling like eating at all. It controls my blood pressure, and heartrate. I lived that waterboarding, without sleep, every night for three months. I was almost dead. I was on proper medication. I had no voice. Dying of not getting a breath, is a bad way to go. You cannot have opiates. They suppress your breathing. So, I tried Medical Marijuana. My voice came back, my lungs cleared. I used a high protein diet, in conjunction with an oxygen concentrator, and just gardening, as exercise. I now look like Brad Pit. Not a joke. I lost 60 pounds from my high. Kept it off, and am ripped, with the beginnings of a six pack. I am however incapable of employment. Noone will allow me to work. I am an engineer. SS dis said no thank you. Doc says shouldnt work. Now, they want ME, to bail out my state. Taxing the crap outta the sick. Many deathbed.

Why do I blab my fool head off as if I was an activist? Dear friends and fellow founding fathers of the new era, I am frightened. How often can I get raided. Yearly, monthly, weekly, every time they need a kick? Who do they share that info with? Am I safe from further intrusion? Are they building a case? Am I paranoid? Does the term even mean anything any longer? The only safety I have is in notoriety. In transparency. And even yet, I cannot reveal to my neighbors, as they might revolt. I told my Mom. she hardly could listen, and told me to NOT tell my Dad. My growing is a family secret. My conservative parents, told me not to tell my sisters, as they are religious conservatives, and would likely shun me. When I get too sick to care for myself, I will die. As noone will find a sick guy dope. Until then, I am a posterboy for Medical Marijuana, outted by jackbooted thugs. On the forefront of discriminated groups. Without any claim to congenital cause. And no official protection. With a Don't ask, Don't tell stigma on the lot of us. So, I'm here and I'm in fear. Where's my pride parade?

I've never wrote anything that I think should be read by many, this might be it.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 10:39 AM
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1. I take it you are a medical marijuana patient
and live in a state where you cannot get it legally, so you grow your own, and you were busted? and you are ill?
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Gman2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 10:47 AM
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4. No, I live in conservative San Diego, was not busted, and am ill.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 10:50 AM
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6. hugs
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-24-09 01:51 AM
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44. San Diego is conservative?
is that why I was unable to find a smutty California bikini gals postcard anywhere in that freaking town to mail to the troops?
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Alcibiades Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-24-09 08:17 AM
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48. It's conservative for California
I am surprised that you couldn't find such a postcard, though: the conservatis, of Southern California tends to be more of the "low-tax small government" variety than the "I'm scandalized by immorality" variety.

I had heard that San Diego has the most strip clubs of any town in Cali, but I don't know how true that is.
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BonnieJW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-24-09 08:43 AM
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49. Yes.
My stupid sister voted for bush; twice.
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Gman2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 10:52 AM
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7. A cop from the same substation, was running a scam, and the judge was in cahoots.
A traffic scam. I brought the cop and the judge down, declaring them to be running a MORDIDA SCHEME. The Attorney General agreed. I was already enemy no. 1 to these guys. This is the third time that cops have insisted on searching my home without a warrant. Saying that it was for domestic abuse. Men have NO recourse. A girlfriend defended the cops, as saying, well? What IF you had a girl in your crawlspace? I called her a dumbass. Literally. Poppa don't take no mess.
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 10:57 AM
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9. I hope you can find an attorney that will take this pro bono.
That kind of shit needs to stop.
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Gman2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 11:09 AM
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12. I am technically, clean as a whistle. That is why I am a posterboy!
No mark on my permanent record. Not even a smudge. Perfect driving record. Forever. Cept for a few speeding. Never arrested. Upstanding citizen. Strong and proud. I am a monster.
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jhrobbins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-24-09 07:15 AM
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47. Well sir, I wish I could sympathize, but you are clearly at odds with the law
which would seem to make you a criminal - and all because you want to smoke marijuana, just wanna get high, get a little reefer madness going and then God knows what will happen. No sir, I think that perhaps you should be incarcerated with the other tens? hundreds? of thousands of narco criminals. See these doctors have not convinced me that this marijuana really has a medical connection and after all, it really is about me isn't it - I mean, they need to get me on board before they should proceed.
It's a shame that this illness can't be helped by alcohol - (it can't can it?) Now that's a tried and true drug that I could really get behind and support. It has to be the safest drug like these doesn't it - after all it is the only one legal so that must mean it is the better drug.

Obviously I am being sarcastic and perhaps it is a little too early in the morning for it, but I read Gman's post and I just sorta snapped - just a little snap, barely noticeable if you weren't inside my head, but it is all just beginning to seem to be too much. Will we ever have the country we should have filled with laws that are rational and people that are reasonable. Why does it have to be so hard when the path seems so obvious to me and consequently all other reasonable people. Health care, Social Security, DOMA, DADT, the wars in (well everywhere actually if you just count humans instead of Americans), MediCare, MediCade, the economy, the banks, crooked, lying politicians.

SO, I'm asking - is it really gonna get better?


PS - I wish you well Gman.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 12:29 PM
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27. Two things:
San Diego lost its lawsuit so NOW it has to issue medical marihuana cards

Contact the local advocacy groups and get a lawyer, ASAP

(Two other counties were part of it, Riverside and Imperial by the by)
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 10:43 AM
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2. good job - recc'd
the stupidity of drug laws never ceases to amaze me
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 10:46 AM
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3. Wel, you write like you smoke a bunch of dope.

;)

Just a joke....


Seriously, you have my sympathy for whatever ails you and how you are not able to live without persecution. Things are changing, albeit too slowly. Someday, people will speak of you and people like you as heros.
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Aloha Spirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 10:56 AM
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8. Agree--too slowly. I would love to read a chronicles of a medical marijuana user.
I bet a lot of people would buy it if well done.
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Gman2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 11:06 AM
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11. Hey, I'm getting better, and I certainly have the punchy scenes.
More than you can imagine.
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 01:00 PM
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30. Think Weeds + House = The Life of Gman2

Remember me when you're famous.
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get the red out Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 10:49 AM
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5. Evil thoughtless society
I can't understand why people in our society can't think! I had to take my husband to the emergency room for dehydration from a stomach virus and they were pushing a prescription for pain pills at him, but if someone needs medical marijuana they must be demonized.

I get so disgusted with our culture, heartless in it's attempt to obey meaningless rules.

I am so sorry for you. I hope for the best for you.
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 11:05 AM
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10. Lawyer. Now.
Cops fucking with a seriously ill man? To hell with that! And that crap the Social Security Administration gave you can and should be appealed. They messed with me, now they may have to pay me about fifty grand for dragging their feet and my ass. So a lawyer is called for. Get yourself an aggressive, angry, dirty, hyperintelligent freak of a prick lawyer, especially if he has "issues" with authority and an appetite for vengeance.

This kind of crap has GOT to end. You might as well at least start that ball rolling. I am not certain whether you can undertake such a fight, but I hope you at least can do something. It's amazing how good for the health it is to be able to land a good left hook on the schnozz of The Man.

I myself will soon be a MM patient, too -- I have chronic severe pain, and the narcotics are losing their effectiveness, plus I am just starting to develop the breathing problems you spoke of. And far from looking like Brad, I'm developing Angelina's tits. Actually, the drug that works best for me is LSD -- I have enough pain that even fairly high doses don't disorient me. But that's a different story.

If I get put on a state shit list, as long as I can do so, someone's life/lives (other than mine) is/are going be become miserable. At this point in my life, I'm ready to spill some serious legal blood. Not actual blood -- I'm talking lawyers and journalists. I hope you can take that approach, too.

Believe me when I say this, and it isn't just the usual protocol: good luck. There are millions of people who will stick up for you. We have only just started to express our displeasure. Keep talking, and if we slack off, kick us all in our collective ass and MAKE us listen.

Please keep us posted.

--d!
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Gman2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 11:16 AM
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15. I asked the cop if he had ever read The adventures of Ivan Illich?
From Dostouevsky? I said that a russian peasant stole a loaf of bread, to then be arrested and be fed, and to have somewhere to lay his head. Only, he couldnt get them to arrest him. I said that this was like that. You break me, you bought me. If they had touched a fuckin hair on my head, or interfered with my supply of meds, I was going to go all SCOTUS on their asses. And get my heart opperations. FREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They took me as sort of a monster. Especially when they got wind of my taking down a judge and cop already. The cop told me I talk too much.
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Fedja Donating Member (544 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-24-09 01:30 AM
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43. Honestly...
Edited on Wed Jun-24-09 01:31 AM by Fedja
Take a shit job in Europe, some direct marketing call center thing that anyone can do with no physical exertion. 2 months into it, after your socialist insurance settles in, you can have your surgery free. :P
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 11:11 AM
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13. Please get an attorney and sue the heck out of them. If you can't afford one, please try the ACLU.
Your rights were violated.

I wish we had MM legalized in my state. It passed the state assembly a couple of years ago and it has yet to reach the floor in our state senate.

And sending you a hug and hope that you continue on your road to wellness.
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Gman2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 11:17 AM
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16. Thusfar, there has been no harm. At least that shows.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 11:54 AM
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25. Anyone reading your post knows that there was harm.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 11:16 AM
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14. What State?
That makes a big difference these days. Terrible what happened to you and to too many patients in this country. But advise such as it is would vary greatly according to location....
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Gman2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 11:22 AM
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18. San Diego California. Carmel Valley, a sleepy bedroom community
The local keystone cops are REAL BORED. They are up for anything to ease the tedium. They invent crooked games. When I fought the crooked traffic scheme, I contacted the local paper, and they said that I was just mad that they found me guilty. Not that they had invented a nonexistant law, to fleece us, the citizens of our cash. They werent interested. I guess I'll have to beat ass myself, as those charged with stopping fascism, arent. I am. Sometimes, the power I have scares me. Who else chooses on six cops, and a whole judicial system, with cuffs on? I think they are going to be sad they rang my chime.
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Kind of Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 11:22 AM
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17. That's true, we hide.
I'm sorry for you. I've been scared to death to seek it out for glaucoma I have in an eye that medical marijuana does absolute wonders on, so much better than my prescription drops. But I was glad to read this recently and wonder if in the meantime you can get it from a dispensary now "opening up all over San Diego?"

NOTICE TO All OF OUR SAN DIEGO PATIENTS
We are reopening in San Diego
With the new United States Attorney General Eric Holder’s announcement that the federal government would leave Medical Marijuana alone and only go after those breaking both Federal and State Laws, the climate in the world of Medical Marijuana changed. When the United States Supreme Court refused to hear the final appeal of San Diego County, dispensaries started opening up all over San Diego. Our patients no longer must travel to OC or LA for their medicine. We are pleased to announce that as soon as suitable office space is located we will be reopening our San Diego Office.

http://www.medicalmarijuanaofsandiego.com/

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Gman2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 11:24 AM
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19. They did not touch my grow. I am still up. As for you, do it. do it.
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Kind of Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 12:25 PM
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26. Absolutely bizarre and pure harrassment.
I mean I can almost understand if they confiscated your supply, but in your state of health, though you look like Brad Pitt, this is just too sad. I hope that you do contact the ACLU.
Remember Steven McWilliams? He lived in my former neighborhood and I was devastated when he committed suicide after years of harassment, just trying to live the best he could in all that pain. I'd chat with him while he walked his dogs, and he sometimes lived with the pain for fear of using and another bust for growing. Jesus Christ, it's hard for me to think about him because of the irony of the feds new stance, which is what the county used against him for years and years and years.

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Gman2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 11:27 AM
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21. In fact, if you are interested, this week only
I have all the expertise, equipment to duplicate a fantastic system. I like to help. Cheap.
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Kind of Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 12:42 PM
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29. That's so considerate, Gman2!
But had laser surgery to relieve a lot of the pressure and I only have flares up just a few times a year. Luckily my ophthalmologist is supporting me in becoming a card-carrying member to dispense with the drops that I would have to use forever. :hug:
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 11:26 AM
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20. what a relief, until the last line
Up until the halfway point I thought you might be jacking off. In which case, I would have to hunt you down and gut you like a dog.

At least I would, if the Lord himself didn't have ways of dealing with Onanism.

The last line hurt though, and it probably should have been two lines, but I won't throw stones there since I love a run-on sentance - or two (and am not a fan of spell check).

Have written. Have written. Have written.

Expect a knock on your door from the grammer polizei.

Seriously though, what you describe is messed up. But I sorta wonder that MaryJane is such a cure all. I know that it helps against glaucoma and is a pain-reliever, but I am a little bit skeptical that dancing with her that can fix this, that and the other thing. Lowers blood pressure, controls heartrate, helps you lose weight (but does it make me LARGER???)

I just would like to see such claims verified by research rather than from an anecdote from somebody I don't really know. You can know what you say is true. I cannot have the same assurance.

But I wish you well in any case.
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Gman2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 11:38 AM
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23. As I said
The chief symptoms of Maryjane are cottonmouth, and the munchies. So, I have flooded lungs, that are getting regurgitation from my bad heart vlaves. In essense, it is asperational pneumonia. Cottonmouth dries my lungs. Munchies helps me not to throw up. To get hungry and keep it down. Again, from all the regurgitation. As you ingest Maryjane, your heartrate increases significantly. Then, that switches, and your heartrate decreases significantly. Sorta like booze is a stimulant, then a depressant. Blood pressure, on me, was 185. I was in anxiety attack range. Cuz of my being left to die. The Maryjane calms me. Should I have had to deal with six snarling cops, I likely would have had a heart attack. It also fights the Glaucoma in my family and in me. All these things have allowed me to look, and in some ways act 18. I am 48. Literally. I was an Auwshwitz{sp} victim, till I tried Maryjane. I was a bag of skin. Wheezing and coughing. A neighbor even conspired with another neighbor friend to get me kicked out of my home for coughing/dying. I sat straight up in bed for three months, lucky to get one hour of sleep, max. Didnt eat. Now, I am precariously awesome. A very tipsy health. But awesome.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 11:27 AM
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22. And people wonder why I can't stand cops.
Every single time you have an encounter with one for any reason, you risk living the Stanford Prison Experiment.
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Gman2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 11:40 AM
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24. You have NOOOOOOOOOO idea how right you are!
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Irishonly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 12:39 PM
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28. What happened to you is happening all over
We live in the wrong part of the state. Patients are routinely rousted in southern California. Here is a link to a support group for patients. http://forums.cannabisculture.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=postlist&Board=54&page=1

My husband was rousted a little over a week ago and it appears his civil rights were violated. We are trying to raise money for an attorney right now since we are both disabled. My husband was not charged, a complaint was filed and can be on record from one to three years. The cops were threatening felony charges.

Please check out the group. You are not alone.
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 08:35 PM
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31. I still don't understand why there was a screaming woman.
I understand your need for medical marijuana, (and have no issue with it whatsoever) but I don't get why neighbors called and said you were beating up a woman who was crying and screaming.

Were they making up stuff to get the cops over to your house?
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40ozDonkey Donating Member (730 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 08:55 PM
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33. The woman didn't start screaming until the cops got to the door.
She looks something like this:



Please call if you see her.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 08:36 PM
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32. Take care of yourself, Gman,
and thanks for sharing.
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 09:46 PM
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34. Your religious conservative sisters would shun you if they found out. True christians.
I'm sorry you have to put up with bullshit like this. Like someone else said, contact the ACLU.

I hope your life changes for the better. Much better.

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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 10:16 PM
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36. O please. Jesus was anointed and balmed with enough hallucinogens
Edited on Tue Jun-23-09 10:17 PM by Wizard777
to make anyone think they were the son of God.......not that that's a bad thing.
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 10:19 PM
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37. Amen.
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 10:15 PM
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35. So what about the huge fight with the girl? What was that about?
Edited on Tue Jun-23-09 10:16 PM by imdjh
Your neighbor just made it up?
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Celtic Merlin Donating Member (377 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 10:27 PM
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38. Gman2, if you REALLY wanna mess with them...
...and can afford it, installing a home audio and video surveillance system would REALLY fuck with these storm troopers. One microphoned camera per room will record all of their illegal search procedures (like looking in dresser drawers for the screaming woman) and their improper comments to you. Once it's in place, have a GF over to scream on purpose - just to give them the chance to screw with you - WHILE BEING RECORDED THIS TIME.

You wouldn't believe what it does to an officer's case in court when the video rolls. And you'd have some very serious evidence when you get into the courtroom for your case against them.

Financially, though, it's quite a hefty expense. Even a hand-held - rolling - while they're there would be of some value.

Good luck with the cops. Some are decent people, but far too many are assholes. I've met some very good people who happen to be police officers and I've met some cops who are total douchebags.

Celtic Merlin
Carlinist
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uncle ray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-24-09 01:23 AM
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42. thing is, it was a perfectly legal search.
though he protested, Gman let them in. therefore basically anything goes.

never ever let them in. stand your ground and say " i am not giving you permission to search my house/car". if they have just cause, they will cuff you and do the search, if not they'll be patient and persuasive, but never, ever give any kind of permission for them to enter the premises. did i say never? i'll say it again, never let the cops search your property!

as for the video, it won't do a damn bit of good once you let them in to search. any defense in such matters relies heavily on whether or not the occupant grants any kind of permission to search.

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SpankMe Donating Member (301 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 10:28 PM
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39. Great piece...
Edited on Tue Jun-23-09 10:28 PM by SpankMe
It looks to me like it's not as much the MJ that's got you in hot water as much as the grudge the SDPD is holding against you for exposing their traffic scam.

It would be cool if you could hide a camera and microphone in the house (that they couldn't find) and record one of these raids. Leak it on YouTube or something and see if you can get some pro-bono representation out of it for civil rights violations.

After reading heartbreaking stories like this here on DU, I wish I had become a civil rights lawyer and could take these cases pro-bono and take then as far as they can go.

You have my moral support.
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dem mba Donating Member (732 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-23-09 10:40 PM
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40. if I wasn't on the east coast
I would do what I could to help you out my friend and score you what I could. if marijuana is the ONLY drug that works for you, heals you, strengthens you -- why would any sane doctor or politician deny you this? don't we have the right to LIFE, liberty and PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS?

ah, this infuriates me so much.
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-24-09 12:45 AM
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41. Off topic just a little -
you need representation to appeal that asshole SS disability rejection - which is par for how they operate, turning down everyone the first time, with a few exceptions.

This firm - http://binderandbinder.com/ - is the outfit you want to handle your appeal. They do it better than anyone else I know of, and you may have to go to Orange County to see one of their attorneys, but I hope you can make that trip.

You are special. Thanks for a really important post, thanks very much......................
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-24-09 03:21 AM
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45. That's terrible.
If things become unbearable for you down there, you should move to Alaska. We've had decriminalized marijuana since 1975 and medical marijuana specifically for several years. You can possess up to an ounce for personal use (except around schools, of course) with no penalty. The police here don't mess with pot smokers unless they know you're running a commercial grow or just catch you with it during some other kind of arrest. I don't know very many people who haven't smoked pot at some time or another in their lives...lawyers, judges, correctional officers, governors, doctors. It's no big deal here.

So it's an option to keep in mind.
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-24-09 06:56 AM
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46. Did you let them in?
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RoccoR5955 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-24-09 09:15 AM
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50. K & R... Welcome to the Police States of Amerika...
...where the police don't have to obey the law, because they ARE the law.

Good luck. Personally, I would move far, far away from there, with the sort of problems you will have with the storm troopers in the future, for outing them. Mark my words, it will NEVER stop, until you leave the area.
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