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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 07:43 PM
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Woman on trial for raping 10 men
Source: APP.com

A Russian woman, dubbed the Black Widow for her love of horror films and spiders, is on trial for drugging and raping 10 men.

The woman, identified only as Valeria K., was charged by police for allegedly sedating and sexually abusing 10 men from the city of Tambov, Adelaide Now reports.

The 32-year-old woman would get acquainted with men before inviting them back to her place and giving them drinks laced with clonidine that put them to sleep for almost 24 hours.

During that time she would undress her victims and rape them by tightening a rope around their genitals to keep their penises erect. The men eventually would wake up in the hospital with clonidine poisoning and penis trauma. It was unclear how the men got to the hospital.

All of the men remembered the friendly brunette who gave them drinks, which helped police identify the woman. At present, police know about 10 victims, although one of them refused to file a complaint against her. The unnamed man said he “like hot women,” and thought the assault “was great.” He wished he hadn’t been drugged, however.

Read more: http://blogs.app.com/saywhat/2009/06/19/woman-on-trial-for-raping-10-men/
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NV Whino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 07:49 PM
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1. Oh those Russians
Must be the climate.
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greengestalt Donating Member (126 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 11:21 PM
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34. In Soviet Russia...
---Woman at nightclub rape YOU!!!


Really, know it's an old one, but kinda Cultish on da net...


Talk about how "Sexist" our culture is:
And "Their" culture, too. I'm surprised it wasn't laughed out of court, or dismissed as "Obviously she dominatrix, did she not whip him right?"


Hot teacher has schoolboys for lovers, she gets a mild prison sentence at worst and there are legions of men going "Rape me, teacher!" outside the courthouse and the YouTube plays of the Van Halen Song, "Hot for teacher!" goes overload.

Switch the genders, even if the 'lil tramp is 17 and 6 months and he's given decades in jail and that's protection from the legions of people who want to lynch him.


Of course, some other "cultures" have opposite "Double Standards"... Recently a Catholic priest was defrocked overnight and put on a 'super strict road' where he'd have to repent for decades before being let back in the church, much less re-admitted to the priesthood. He just gave up and left the church. It was for sexual impropriety... He fornicated. With an adult woman. Too bad it wasn't a young boy, or they'd just move him from town to town, then out of the country (hoping he likes dark meat) on 'mission' work.
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Strong Atheist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 11:54 PM
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36. EXTREMELY BELATED Welcome to DU!



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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 07:52 PM
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2. I'll bet there were a lot more than 10 victims.
Rape is underreported by women, so I am guessing that shame or embarrassment would make men even less likely to report.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 07:01 AM
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53. If You Have to Go to the Hospital, It's Reported For You
Give us all a break here.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 08:00 AM
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55. So that's how it works in Russia?
And every victim goes to the hospital instead of a doctor?

You're so knowledgable, I'm going to give you a "break".
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 08:00 AM
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56. double post
Edited on Sun Jun-21-09 08:00 AM by undeterred
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boobooday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 07:59 PM
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3. WWDD
Doestoevsky is sorry he didn't live to see this one.

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boobooday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 07:59 PM
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4. oops
Edited on Sat Jun-20-09 08:00 PM by boobooday

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madaboutharry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 08:00 PM
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5. The woman is obviously a psychopath.
She needs to be locked up for a long time.
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Richd506 Donating Member (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 08:01 PM
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6. now there's something you don't see every day
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 08:02 PM
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7. The unnamed man said he “like hot women,” and thought the assault “was great.”
So much for victimhood.
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givemebackmycountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 08:14 PM
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8. Shit, she should have moved to D.C.
She would have been able to charge $350.00 an hour, and she would have had Republican "family values" types lined up for days for a "session".

"Penis trauma".
I've had that happen several times, but it never required a trip to the hospital.
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bumblebee1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 08:20 PM
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9. Yes, Valeria would make all kinds of money.
Not just in Washington D.C., but also New York and LA. You sure wouldn't hear Republican "family" values people complaining either.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 08:55 PM
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18. Ah, but all the Repubs are in DC
In NYC and LA they're kinda rare...
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 10:38 PM
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30. Damn, she was practically Robin Hood, giving it away for free.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 08:21 PM
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10. God I love the name Valeria.
To bad it's attached to a psycho this time.

And "penis trauma"? :scared:
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 08:32 PM
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11. lol -- everything except the penis trauma. nt
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 08:46 PM
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14. Talk about not needing any details.
I truly have no urge to find out just what penis trauma entails. :)
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 09:00 PM
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19. it's sort of in the air -- ya just Know. nt
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 12:32 AM
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42. Imagine putting a tourniquet around your wrist for a couple of hours so that...
Edited on Sun Jun-21-09 12:34 AM by MilesColtrane
...no blood gets to your hand.

permanent damage
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Sen. Walter Sobchak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 12:53 AM
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43. a chick tried that tied off thing on me once
It was EXTREMELY unpleasant and left me bleeding for about a week - just dropping dead on the spot seemed like a comfortable alternative to explaining what happened to the female urologist old enough to be my mother.
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paulsby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 08:47 PM
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15. the name sounds more like an STD.
Penis and Trauma are two words that do NOT go well together.

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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 08:50 PM
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16. When I got thyroid cancer and they were taking it out (along with a bunch of lymph nodes)...
...they called it a "radical neck dissection". Dissection was bad enough, but to throw "radical" in front of it just wasn't right. :)
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thelordofhell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 08:38 PM
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12. If you have an erection that lasts for more than 4 hours.....
loosen the rope.
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thelordofhell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 08:43 PM
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13. Welcome to DU Valeria K.
:hi:
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downindixie Donating Member (321 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 08:54 PM
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17. Well,I hope she gave them some
viagra to go with that clonidine.
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WestSeattle2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 09:34 PM
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20. Oh for Godsakes, what man needs to be sedated in order
to be held captive and forced to have sex for 24 hours?! Talk about a run-of-the-mill male fantasy. This woman is deranged. Every man I know would give their left nut to meet this nut.

Well hopefully the dude who refused to file a complaint against her will marry the poor thing, once she's out of prison, and give her something to play with everyday. She's clearly a woman who has needs that aren't being met.
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Ex Lurker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 09:43 PM
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21. nonconsensual sex is nonconsensual sex.
regardless of the perpetrator's gender.Some on this thread seem to be forgetting that.
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WestSeattle2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 09:48 PM
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22. My point exactly. There was no need for it to be
non-consensual.
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iamjoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 10:21 PM
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28. It's About Power
Edited on Sat Jun-20-09 10:21 PM by iamjoy
Rape is about power not sex. There are plenty of male rapists who might be aesthetically pleasing. Surely these men could easily pick up women for a one night stand that didn't involve drugs or physical force. But they don't. They assault women who don't want it.

So, this woman who is most likely attractive, could probably easily find a partner for consensual sex. My guess is that her need is not for a sexual partner, but to dominate.

And yes, there probably are men who think this all sounds kind of hot, just like there are women who enjoy reading bodice-ripper novels. That doesn't mean we actually want to experience that kind of thing.

If indeed this woman was looking to have power over these men, consent wasn't the issue and power was. Since women tend to not to be physically stronger than men, she used drugs. While one could physically have sex with a woman even if she is completely unwilling, for a man, at least one physiological response must be present for a woman to copulate with him. It seems she figured out a way to get this too.

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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 06:12 AM
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51. "Clearly a woman who has needs that aren't being met..." Is this your opinion of male rapists, too?
And it your opinion that all female rape victims should just marry their rapists?

Before you answer, let me say that if I've reading you right, yours is one of the most ignorant and insensitive posts I've read here in my five years of DU membership.
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Blandocyte Donating Member (830 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 09:48 PM
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23. Uhhhh, huh, huh. Huuuuh, hug huh.
eom
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New Dawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 09:57 PM
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24. Rape is rape. Don't try to make excuses for this criminal.
Edited on Sat Jun-20-09 09:58 PM by New Dawn
Just a general response to some of the posts in this thread.
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Ex Lurker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 10:09 PM
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25. if the genders had been reversed and people had been snickering
like they are on this thread, there would be tombstones all over the place.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 11:58 PM
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39. Exactly, rape is rape.
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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 10:10 PM
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26. How awful.
Hook-ups are dangerous. I these men recover both in body and mind.
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bloomington-lib Donating Member (513 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 10:11 PM
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27. She won't do any time
I've read that a lot of the rape cases involving men rapist in Russian get dropped and some of the judges have said things like "she asked for it". If men aren't being punished you know a woman won't. It's like the female teachers with their students. No one cares. If anything, they'll want to meet her.
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pattmarty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 10:25 PM
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29. "Clonidine poisoning and penis trauma", fucking bring it on!!!!!
:sarcasm:
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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 10:45 PM
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31. I feel in need of a chastity belt
just in case
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Lagomorph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 10:55 PM
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32. Was she in Thailand recently? nt
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mamaleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 11:02 PM
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33. Lock her up. Rape is rape. No excuses. NT
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Ramius Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 11:23 PM
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35. 10,000,000 to 10
Rape is obviously awful, no matter who does it.

So what does this make it? 100 to 1,000,000,000,000? women to men ratio over the last 1000 years or so?
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Strong Atheist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 11:56 PM
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38. EXTREMELY BELATED Welcome to DU!



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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 11:55 PM
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37. OMFG!
How sick does one have to be to find ways of date-raping men by drugging them and then figure out how to get the passed out guy to have an erection?
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Haole Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 12:07 AM
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40. What exactly is "penis trauma"?
Edited on Sun Jun-21-09 12:07 AM by Haole Girl
:shrug:
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 07:51 AM
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54. I'm not sure, but the words alone make me clinch.
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 08:44 AM
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57. Probably more than one kind
but it is possible to crimp off a blood vessel with "creative" positions leaving something probably akin to an aneuryism that can last for days - or even be permanent

It can be painful. First person report.
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bitchkitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 12:25 AM
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41. She should be prosecuted just as a man would be prosecuted,
if he drugged and had sex with 10 unconscious women.

This isn't a joke, I'm kind of surprised at some of the replies in this thread.
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Tim01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 02:55 AM
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44. You know I just got back from a party where there were women
who were...........

Oh never mind.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 03:17 AM
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45. Not LBN. This bullshit story appeared in Daily Telegraph on 19 June

Black widow woman drugged, raped ten men
Article from: The Daily Telegraph
June 19, 2009 09:01am
http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,25658821-5001021,00.html
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 04:27 AM
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46. Thanks LBN police
:eyes:
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 04:41 AM
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47. Some of us use LBN as a news source. Old bullshit filler doesn't help.
Edited on Sun Jun-21-09 04:41 AM by struggle4progress
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 04:43 AM
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48. Thanks LBN police
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 05:17 AM
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49. BTW. The story comes from Australia's Daily Courier Mail, which attributes it to life.ru

Black widow woman drugged, raped ten men
... Life.ru reports ...
http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,25658949-954,00.html

Go look at the Тамбо́в stories on life.ru to get a feel for the quality of coverage there:

Here's a nice one about a poltergeist in a food warehouse:

В складе алкогольной продукции поселился полтергейст. Видео!
http://life.ru/video/9320
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 05:31 AM
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50. If you like getting your news from life.ru, here are some other stories you'll want to follow:
Edited on Sun Jun-21-09 05:39 AM by struggle4progress
One is about miracles, the other is about space aliens:

Чудо: молитва обратила стадо овец к вере
http://life.ru/video/9002

Инопланетяне прилетели за останками кыштымского гуманоида Алешеньки. Видео пришельцев!
http://life.ru/video/8252/
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Dorian Gray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 07:00 AM
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52. How absolutely horrible
What a vicious woman.
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