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edhopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 08:37 AM
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Hey Parent! Make your own friggen cookie dough!
There are like 6 ingredients and it takes about 10 minutes. No chemicals, preservatives OR E-coli.
Just saying.
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yellowdogintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 08:41 AM
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1. home made is definitely better. Besides I bet it is salmonella in the eggs
not EColi.

just thinking
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 09:33 AM
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38. My first thought was salmonella which can still present a problem at home when
people eat the dough they made when raw.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 10:30 AM
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55. Salmonella is the usual culprit. I have trouble envisioning how in hell
E. coli (presumably STEC) got into cookie dough, which does NOT (or should not, lol) contain beef.

But yeah, there is no earthly reason for cookie dough for private homes to be manufactured by the ton in some factory. Sheesh. My sister and I were making it by the time we were big enough to stand at the kitchen counter and stir a bowl.
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juno jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 12:12 PM
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64. Cross contamination at the factory.
Edited on Sat Jun-20-09 12:14 PM by juno jones
That's how the e.coli got there.

All restaurants and food manufacturers must use pasteurized liquid eggs. The 'raw' cookie dough in ice cream and pre-packaged cookies is not really 'raw'. The contamination is apparently either in another ingredient or somewhere on the processing line. My guess is the line.

This is what happens when industry, especially food industry is engaged in a race to the bottom.

For example, as a cook I have all sorts of reasons to not eat at Olive Garden. One of the main reasons being that the one local to me in the nineties was constantly being shut down for both salmonella and e.coli. What it told me is that they were paying starvation wages to people; The employees weren't being paid enough to give a shit and the cleanliness of the kitchen environs was suffering as a result. IIRC, ultimately, the contaminations were traced back to a particular Hobart mixer that apparently was never properly maintained.

They are cutting corners on mainentence and health. Never a better reason to do for yourself or visit a local baker.
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edhopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 12:40 PM
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69. That and their food
is crap :-)
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 10:34 PM
Response to Reply #64
94. Unless they are processing beef at the cookie dough plant, that doesn't
add up. I believe the Salmonella report.

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 08:43 AM
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2. Better y et. Stop eating that raw dough. Cook it! People aren't just taking a taste, they
buy the stuff for raw eating. yuck.
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edhopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 08:44 AM
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4. True
but the raw stuff from Nestle's is still full of crap!
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ejpoeta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 08:55 AM
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12. i have eaten cookie dough all my life and have NEVER gotten sick once.
NEVER!! my mom made cookies... my sister made and still makes cookies... I make cookies. I give the kids the beaters. we eat the dough. NEVER HAVE GOTTEN SICK.
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 08:58 AM
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13. From the homemade stuff
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ejpoeta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 09:07 AM
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23. yep. i have never bought store bought cookie dough. I just can't bring myself to do it
when I know I can make the dough in like five minutes at home.
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fortyfeetunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 12:09 PM
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63. the only time I did was an Otis Spunkmeyer gig...
the school has an OS fundraiser and I bought a few tubs. I really don't like the cookies.

I have been a cooking from scratch type since I was a kid. Use real butter. That type of gig.
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WillowTree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 09:11 AM
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27. It only takes once, though, especially if you're talking about homemade...
....you're more likely to get salmonella courtesy of raw eggs in the dough.

I've always loved to scrape the bowl and lick the spoon as soon as a batch of brownies are in the oven, but I stopped doing it a number of years ago. Just not worth the risks to me.
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ejpoeta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 09:22 AM
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32. I have gotten sick over food in my life.... got food poisoning from ground beef
that i believe was probably in the fridge too long before my sister used it. Everything has some level of risk in it, i suppose. But that doesn't stop me from eating ground beef. Or chicken. or anything else. I just don't see it as any 'riskier' as anything else.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 09:21 AM
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31. Maybe you are already immune to Salmonella from other sources . . .
since 25% of eggs are infected.

But your argument is similar to the smokers who say cigarettes aren't dangerous because they're not sick.
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panader0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 10:35 AM
Response to Reply #31
58. How can eggs have salmonella unless the shell is cracked?
Curious.
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 12:15 PM
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97. Where do you get the statistic that 25% of eggs are infected?
The only information I can find suggests that infection rates are somewhere between 1 in 12,000 eggs and 1 in 30,000 eggs.
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queenofcups Donating Member (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 01:20 PM
Response to Reply #12
72. Yeah, I remember licking the beaters, but to eat cookie dough
like one would eat cookies seems weird to me. I have never had the slightest urge to buy cookie dough icecream, for example.
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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 08:58 AM
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14. Now that's just gross
licking the spoon when you're done is one thing; eating the entire tub of dough is :puke:


dg
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ejpoeta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 09:51 AM
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46. an entire tub of dough??? that is a bit much. you'll definitely give yourself a stomach ache!!
It's one thing to lick the beater... or the bowl at the end. who would eat a whole tub!! I think you would want to use a substitute for the egg if you were going to do that!! like cookie dough ice cream. It has bits of cookie dough in it. I assume that they would have used a substitute for the raw egg in that or cooked the eggs enough to kill any bacteria or anything first.
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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 10:12 AM
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50. I think they use pasteurized eggs for that
otherwise, I don't think they could sell it. And it's my favorite flavor of ice cream too!

but yeah, these folks are getting sick because they're eating the tube or tub of dough (not sure what this pre-made dough comes in, since I don't buy it).

dg
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ejpoeta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 10:28 AM
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54. i do believe it comes in both. tub and tube. i have never bought it,
but i enjoy watching the commercials of this happy mom and her happy kids breaking apart the dough and putting it on a sheet. i shake my head and wonder at how hard it would have been to just pull out the mixer and a few ingredients and mix them up themselves. but, that's probably why their kitchen looks immaculate and mine....doesn't.
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 07:05 PM
Response to Reply #54
87. They sell a version where the cookies are already separated for baking. OMG. we
can't even be bothered with slicing the dough.
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ejpoeta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 08:26 PM
Response to Reply #87
90. well, you do have to break them apart. :)
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 08:32 PM
Response to Reply #90
91. and put them on the pan.
:eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes:
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 12:33 PM
Response to Reply #87
98. Disclaimer: I make my own cookies and have never bought pull-apart dough.
However, I don't see pull-apart dough as any "lazier" than buying packaged cookies from the grocery store or bakery.
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juno jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 12:33 PM
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67. Yes, by law any more than three eggs and you have to use
pasteurized egg product.

None of this 'raw' cookie dough you eat is raw. Just like 'raw' juice is now all pasteurized.

Besides this is e.coli. I'm reasonably sure that this is due to cross contamination at the factory.

The result of manufactured food and it's race to the bottom.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 11:56 AM
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62. If you use pasteurized eggs, you can eat the cookie dough
:shrug:

Pasteurized eggs can be identified by the red stamp on one end.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 06:35 PM
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84. No kidding. The next "food fad" will be eating bread dough. n/t
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 11:20 AM
Response to Reply #84
95. Eating raw cookie dough isn't exactly a "food fad"...
people have been doing it for decades.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 06:06 PM
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99. Eating it probably isn't, but selling it is. n/t
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 06:16 PM
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100. Not really. Cookie dough has been sold for decades also.
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 06:45 PM
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86. but raw dough is tasty
:9
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 08:44 AM
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3. Hey Edhopper!
There are almost always more than 6 ingredients and it takes a lot more than 10 minutes. Chemicals and preservatives are already in the raw material. And finally, mom doesn't have much time for anything beyond work, kid's needs (homework, after school events, extracurricular activities), housecleaning, laundry, and meals.
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edhopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 08:49 AM
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6. I make cookies all the time
Sorry, 9 and none of them have chemicals or preservatives.
Toll House recipe;
# 2 1/4 cups all-purpose flour
# 1 teaspoon baking soda
# 1 teaspoon salt
# 1 cup (2 sticks) butter, softened
# 3/4 cup granulated sugar
# 3/4 cup packed brown sugar
# 1 teaspoon vanilla extract
# 2 large eggs
# 2 cups chocolate chips

Assembling takes about 10 minutes. Baking time the same as the cookie dough packages.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 09:01 AM
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19. So now there are 9 ingredients
See, not as easy as you said in your OP. LOL
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edhopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 11:53 AM
Response to Reply #19
61. Yeah,
because flour, sugar and baking soda are sooooo complicated to use.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 03:33 PM
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81. I have an idea
Get your kids together. Bake cookies all day long. Hell, do it all weekend.

Then bring those cookies over to me and I will eat them.

I might even share them with my kids. :)

It's a win win. I have fun with my kids and you have fun with yours.
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 09:08 AM
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24. Assembling takes more than 10 minutes if you
cream the shortening and sugar well, mix the eggs in thoroughly, and do a good job of sifting and mixing the flour/baking soda/salt. It takes more than 10 minutes. Baking them takes even more in that you have to interrupt other activities to put them in and out of the oven. Cinnamon rolls takes most of the day. Cake mixes are quicker and easier in that you use a mixer and only put the pans in the oven once. I expect I've done more baking over the years than you have.

The bottom line is that a lot of us don't have 10 minutes to spare on extras like homemade cookies. Count yourself lucky if you're getting a homemade meal.
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ejpoeta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 09:28 AM
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37. well, it is true that making cookies normally takes time putting them in and taking them out of the
oven. You can just put the dough in a 13x9 pan and bake them that way, though they won't be cookies... they will be cookie bars. but...
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 09:40 AM
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41. Personally, I never liked cookie bars but that's just personal preference
Edited on Sat Jun-20-09 09:41 AM by cornermouse
Although it would work for chocolate chip cookies, I wouldn't think snickerdoodles and gingersnaps would translate to bar cookies very well.
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ejpoeta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 09:48 AM
Response to Reply #41
44. that's true. and i agree with you on the cookie bars. i prefer the cookies.
i use parchment paper when making the cookies and I can just transfer them all to the cooling rack with one swift motion. I only wish i had a toaster oven so that I could make only a few cookies at a time without having to heat up a whole oven. LOL! my trouble is, that when the cookies are there... I tend to eat them. I would rather make one sheet at a time and freeze the rest for later.
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surrealAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 10:05 AM
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49. Despite what older recipes say, you don't need to sift flour ...
... for cookies. Modern flour is "pre-sifted" so provided you store it in a dry place, no sifting required. I usually just break up any lumps in my baking powder with my finger before mixing it in, so there is nothing to sift.
Cookies can be done in a mixer too. It make the critical "cream butter and sugar" step fast and easy.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 09:09 AM
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26. +1
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 10:35 AM
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57. I dunno. I don't think much of moms who are too busy to make a frickin'
bowl of cookie dough with their kids. Maybe a few less formal extracurricular events and a little more interaction with family in the home would benefit a lot of kids (and parents).

Why would a person HAVE children if they DIDN'T want to do fun stuff with them?
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 12:34 PM
Response to Reply #57
68. For the tax write-off, I think
I don't think I want to explain the childfree term "fuck trophy" here, but that's always a possibility too.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 03:28 PM
Response to Reply #57
78. I liked reading books and playing games with my kids
I also coached their soccer teams and was den mother for their Cub Scout troops. Plus I hd a full time job. That didn't leave a lot of time for baking cookies from scratch.

But I managed to do a LOT of interesting and fun stuff with my kids without ever once baking cookies. :crazy:

I also don't sense that they feel deprived because Mom wasn't a Suzy homemaker who did fun stuff in the kitchen with them.
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malletgirl02 Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 08:42 PM
Response to Reply #78
93. Reading books and playing games vs. baking
If I were a kid I would prefer reading books and playing games with my parents to baking cookies any day. You sound like a good parent, don't let the people on this thread get you down.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 06:59 PM
Response to Reply #93
101. LOL, I'm not a parent. That's funny. I'm happily single, but suppose
Edited on Sun Jun-21-09 07:00 PM by kestrel91316
I could have made a good mom. My sister sure did: career but with P/T work, shlepping to soccer games, reading them to bed, AND baking cookies. My niece and nephew are now fine upstanding citizens and GOOD Democrats.

Oh, and they know their way around the kitchen so they don't have to rely on restaurants and convenience foods, lol.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 08:45 AM
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5. Hey edhopper! I suck at baking cookies!
Not everyone is a natural born baker.

Sheesh.
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edhopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 08:50 AM
Response to Reply #5
7. Baking things like cakes and pastries is hard
cookies are really easy, almost foolproof. Give it a try.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 08:59 AM
Response to Reply #7
15. You think I haven't tried?
Like I said, I suck at baking cookies. So did my mom. Maybe it's genetic.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 09:00 AM
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18. or how about a box of brownies?
Sheesh, we can do that can't we?

That takes one box mix, 2 eggs, some cooking oil and a bit of water.

I'll even give you my secret hint to the BEST BROWNIES EVER...

Use 2 boxes of brownie mix. Prepare as directed on the box. Bake in a
13x9 pan at 325 for 52 mins. Let cool for 10 mins. Then, spread one
pkg of chocolate chips (semi-sweet or milk chocolate, whatever you prefer)
over the brownies. Let brownies with chips sit for a few minutes, until melty.
Then spread melted chips evenly on brownies.

You can serve them warm (choc on top will be melty) or you can cover and store overnight
to allow the chocolate chips to cool and set up.

Either way is divine!

I have been making brownies this way for a long time and every time I bring them somewhere,
people say they are the best they've ever had. The secret is using the two mixes and
the cooking times. They come out fudgy and dense.

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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 09:27 AM
Response to Reply #7
35. Baking things like cakes and pastries is hard?
NOT. I bake everything from scratch and it's easy.
We had about half a dozen over-ripe bananas here this week and in an hour and a half, I made five loaves of banana bread.

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ejpoeta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 09:57 AM
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47. cakes are very tempermental. i have tried to make cakes from scratch,
but they are always dry. I want to make them from scratch, but that is one thing I haven't been able to get yet. Pastries can be tempermental too. I have made my own pie crusts in the past, but you have to keep the dough very cold to do this kind of stuff. I think it's a matter of practice. If you can find a recipe that works, just the practice of doing it makes it easier. I make my own biscuits... Takes me like five minutes. And they are much better than the canned ones. I make my own cinnamon rolls... it's pretty easy, just takes time letting the dough rise and stuff. I hope to find a good recipe for cake someday so I can do that too.

btw... banana bread is AWESOME.. and pretty easy. you just throw everything together, stir it up and bake it. brownies are pretty easy too, just don't overstir.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 10:37 AM
Response to Reply #47
59. If your cakes are dry
Use two ounces less flour than the recipe suggests.
I don't throw everything in and stit for my banana bread. I cream my butter, sugar and eggs just like a cake and then add everything else.
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 08:54 AM
Response to Reply #5
10. Don't have to be a skilled baker to make cookies, stir together the stuff & plop it on the sheet,
put it in the oven and 'BAM" you have cookies.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 09:00 AM
Response to Reply #10
17. I burn them.
It's not as easy as you natural born bakers seem to think it is.
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ejpoeta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 10:34 AM
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56. a good thing to do is to set your timer for a couple of minutes before
the directions say. i usually go about 7 minutes or so. then check them to see if they are getting brown around the edges. the first batch is always the easiest to burn for some reason. that and the last, when you are sick of the cookies by then and forget about them like i do. cooking times may vary by your oven, your baking sheets.... when i started using parchment paper the bottoms didn't get too brown, either. not sure why. i buy mine at the kitchen store. $5 gets me a lot of parchment paper in large sheets that i cut in half and they fit in my half sheet pans quite nicely. it lasts me forever!!! also useful if you want to put dough in tubes and freeze them that way. just wrap them up using the whole sheet like alton brown showed. if you ever want to know about cooking, good eats is the show to watch!!
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rvablue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 02:33 PM
Response to Reply #17
74. Well,if burning things is the issue, what does that have to do with prepackaged dough? n/t
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 03:30 PM
Response to Reply #74
79. It's easier NOT to burn the refrigerated ones.
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edhopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 06:15 PM
Response to Reply #79
82. They.....are .....
...full....of...crap!!
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 06:40 PM
Response to Reply #82
85. Like I said, I value my time
But bake me some cookies and I will gladly eat them :)
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 03:30 PM
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80. dupe
Edited on Sat Jun-20-09 03:30 PM by proud2BlibKansan
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WillowTree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 09:16 AM
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29. I've never tried sifting butter and eggs.
How do you wash the sifter afterwards?

;-)
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 09:48 AM
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45. Or pancakes with chocolate chip mountains
It can take a few tries, comfort with your oven and altitude, to get it right.
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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 08:59 AM
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16. I *always* burn the 1st batch
the rest come out fine. Same batter too. Go figure. :shrug:

dg
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ejpoeta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 09:06 AM
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21. cookies aren't hard to do. there are a couple things you may not be thinking of that might
help, though.

1.make sure your butter/margarine is at room temperature. Don't try to use it cold in this endeavor.
2. Eggs should also be at room temperature. I take the butter and eggs out at the same time and let them sit on the counter for at least a half an hour, usually longer.
3. I use half butter or margarine and half shortening. this just affects crispness or chewiness. alton brown is awesome at explaining this.
4. you want to mix the butter/margarine/shortening (whichever you are using) with the sugar (brown and regular). Then you add one egg at a time. Then you add the vanilla. Then add the dry ingredients that you mix up ahead of time and just add at the end. The flour, salt, baking powder... It makes things much easier. And you want to add the flour mixture a little at a time, not dump it all in at once. Then add in your chocolate chips. I add them in the mixer, though some say you should mix them in by hand.
5. make sure the oven is preheated, and take the cookies out when the edges start to brown. I leave them on the cookie sheet for a couple of minutes on the counter before removing to a cooling rack.

You don't have to be a 'natural born baker' with something like cookies. There are things I don't do because I have had no success with them... Like cakes. But cookies... if you put things in in a certain order and have your butter and eggs at room temperature... they come out good almost every time(as long as you don't forget they are in the oven and burn them. hehe. yes, i have done that) and they are SO quick to make. I always forget that when I haven't made them for awhile. quick and easy. and if you make a double batch and freeze half of it, either rolled up in parchment paper tube or making up the cookies on the sheet and freezing instead of baking.... you have cookies for a long time.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 09:08 AM
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25. Took a lot of words to explain how "easy" it is. LOL
Just sayin . . .
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ejpoeta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 09:25 AM
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33. LOL!! i am wordy, i guess.
all i know is that it takes me like five minutes to make a batch of cookies. unless the kids are 'helping'... then it takes longer. but emily is a great egg cracker. ashley is getting there. they LOVE to help make stuff.
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 12:25 PM
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65. If they don't turn out it's probably the equipment
Cookies are pretty foolproof, but if you have an oven that doesn't keep a constant temp, or you have cookie sheets with schmutz all over them or something, then they won't turn out right.

Have the butter at room temp, not just out-of-the-fridge cold, if you want them chewy....do most of your mixing with the wet ingredients and don't overmix once the flour is in. If you don't have clean cookie sheets use parchment paper on them. They will be perfect I promise!

Bake a few batches to practice and when you get it right, send some to the troops in Iraq! Not chocolate chip though as they will melt in this weather.
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sammytko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 09:33 AM
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39. try no bake cookies
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midnight armadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-21-09 11:57 AM
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96. No one is a born baker. Get a good teacher.
A good teacher and a good quality stainless steel baking sheet ($15) and you will be churning out chocolate chip cookies like a pro.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 08:50 AM
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8. I am always amazed in the grocery store...
Edited on Sat Jun-20-09 08:52 AM by CoffeeCat
...by the copious spread of convenience foods for lazy people.

Premade cookie dough; chicken that is cooked, seasoned and cut into strips and veggies that
are all ready chopped, etc. There are frozen meals, with meat, sauce and veggies in a bag.
Just pour in the pan and warm up.

People pay a premium for these products. The chicken for example...usually those packages are
about 10 oz and cost around $5. When you can buy a 3lb bag of boneless, skinless chicken breasts--
these types of products seem really ridiculous.

We're big babies. Big, spoiled babies. We don't watch how we spend our money these days, and we
don't want to spend more than 2 minutes preparing a meal. We're becoming like those future beings
in the movie WallE.

God forbig "busy" parents spend more than 5 seconds baking cookies with their kids! "Ok Susie
would you like to bake cookies with mommy? Great, you open the package and we'll set the little
preformed cookie-dough squares on the baking sheet...and then we're done!"

Nothing like 10 seconds of quality time...

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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 09:06 AM
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22. Lazy people or busy people?
Not all of us moms have time to play Suzy Homemaker. When my kids were little, I preferred sitting down with them and reading a book while waiting for the instant meal I had lovingly prepared to warm up in the microwave.

This place is so freakin judgmental sometimes. We can't all be Kate Gosselin and serve only organic foods we spent all afternoon in the kitchen preparing. And if we don't it doesn't make us less loving or capable mothers.
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wildflower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 02:29 PM
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73. This is an interesting point
On a related note, I was reading a book, I think by Barbara Kingsolver, in which she was talking about the dilemma of modern feminists. She felt torn between what she saw as a feminist ideal of not being a home cook, and wanting to raise and cook food from scratch at home for other reasons, among them environmental. (I think she is in her 50's). I understood what she was saying.
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ejpoeta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 09:19 AM
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30. for cookies, i can't see it. but people are busy. and i think that at least
they aren't just stopping at mcdonalds on the way home!! Sometimes these conveniences are helpful for families who barely have the time to sit down to eat dinner, much less cut up all those vegetables and such. Sure, I can't imagine myself buying one of those kits, but then again, I am a Stay at home mom. I have all the time in the world to cut up vegetables and stuff like that. I make my own pizza dough and sauce. I don't hold it against my sisters that they can't do that.... They work full time. I just made my own laundry soap about a week ago. I never thought I would be able to do that!! and it took me no time at all!! but then again, I am home all day, and I have the time to try to do things that are new to me.

It's easy to judge others. Maybe some people are lazy, but most are just so busy, that buying a convenience thing like a bagged kit for making dinner gives them that much more time to do the fifty other things they have to do when they get home from working 8 hours. Like, helping their kid with their homework. or maybe even going outside and throwing a ball around with their kids while dinner is cooking.

We all make choices, some that others may not agree with. But in our own lives, buying something that will save us a good half hour of a very busy day seems worth it. When the time you actually get to spend with your kids is so limited, as by the time you get home, the time you have with them on top of all the other crap you have to do is only maybe two or three hours. If that!!
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Lancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 09:26 AM
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34. Memories. . .
God forbid "busy" parents spend more than 5 seconds baking cookies with their kids! "Ok Susie
would you like to bake cookies with mommy? Great, you open the package and we'll set the little
preformed cookie-dough squares on the baking sheet...and then we're done!"

Nothing like 10 seconds of quality time...


I hear you. President Obama says turn off the TV and put away the video games and read to your children, but there are other great things parents and children can do at home together that don't cost much and are fun and satisfying for everyone.

We had little discretionary income when my brothers and I were growing up. Dad worked long hours at the newspaper, and Mom was a freelance writer and book critic who also tirelessly volunteered at the church and for the local Democratic party, etc. but she sewed everything I wore except my underwear. She upholstered furniture herself and made curtains.

Mom even designed a bedroom for my brothers that looked like the captain's quarters on a fishing boat. Wish I had pictures. At night after we finished our homework we all played board games, and she taught me how to bake. Mom was and is an excellent cook, and once we became a really good team we baked almost every night while I was in high school for bake sales. We also made our own yogurt from scratch without a yogurt maker.

40 years later I get a lump in my throat thinking of all the quality time we had in my family. And as far as I know, we didn't accidentally bump anybody off with food-borne parasites. :)
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ejpoeta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 09:44 AM
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42. my mom used to make stuff she would take to craft shows. I am lucky I have
my hollie hobby blanket she made for me. I had given it to my niece a long time ago when I was in a very bad place. After I lost my doll that my mom made for me in the fire (it was like the cabbage patch dolls... only BETTER!) my niece gave me the blanket back. My mom cooked, and sewed and all kinds of things. I had a nice dress I believe she made and it had a pinafore.... but she got sick when I was young, after my little sister was born. She still did things, but my second oldest sister ended up having to take over a lot. My mom was at dialysis a lot, and back then they didn't have a dialysis place right nearby... she had to go to rochester. But we always ate dinner together. At that round table with the tiger claw feet.

I don't remember helping make things in the kitchen, though I remember having to do dishes. I must have been taught some things, but I can't remember. There were six kids, and I was the second youngest. My mom died when I was 12, and after that, things went off some. well, a lot.

Still, as much as I don't remember... things sure seemed simpler back then. McDonald's was a special treat. WE rarely ate out anywhere. Though I remember my mom would take me to big boy after I had an eye doctor appointment and let me get the big milkshake. Even though I never finished it!! And then she'd tell me it was our secret. Well I found out a few years ago that she did that with everyone. Oh well.

I am always telling my husband about how important those memories are. The little things. Like helping your mom with something... my dad reading to me as a kid. They created a reader, i'll tell you. My dad would read the wizard of oz to me. And I never had a shortage of books. We didn't have much, but we didn't feel poor. We did spend time together.... camping in the adirondacks every summer. IT was always those little things... the intangibles... you can't buy those things. I try to do that with my own kids. Some. But it's not always easy.
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tabbycat31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 09:38 AM
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40. the only convenience item i buy is the rotisserie chickens
and that's because they're cheaper than the whole raw chickens.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 06:31 PM
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83. At least those don't have all the refrig and packaging, etc. etc.
I don't see that as any different from buying a falafel at the corner stand.

Mmmm falafel...
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JBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 01:05 PM
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70. Yup. Do the math on the extra price of some convenience foods
You're paying someone $50/hour to cut up your food, or to move it from a large container to smaller containers.
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ejpoeta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 08:53 AM
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9. i love making cookies. and if you want, you can put it in a tub
and put it in the fridge. i have done that as well. i have a different recipe i use, though. you put pudding mix in. and check the reviews, because there is one that suggests adding baking powder and salt which i do. but it takes no time to make it. I also take and make up the cookies on a sheet like i was going to bake them and then freeze them. once they are frozen i put them in a ziploc bag in the freezer and take out a few at a time to bake off. yummy!!! the only thing is that i keep avoiding buying chocolate chips because of how much they are. but they sure are good. maybe i'll get some at the store today (like i want to go there!!) and make some cookies. i do have some peanut butter cookies in the freezer i could bake up.
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 08:54 AM
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11. good idea!
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cherish44 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 09:05 AM
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20. But, this way I don't have to dirty up a bowl!
Less dishes to wash is a good thing :) Besides, it's the eggs in cookie dough that make it bacteria laden. Have you seen the eggs in my fridge? They're old enough to vote.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 09:11 AM
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28. Bingo!
That whole washing dishes thing!! That adds like 20 or 30 more steps to this whole "easy process"! LOL
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ProgressiveMuslim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 09:28 AM
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36. I received a warning call from my grocery store!
I had just bought it. Ironically my son begs for homemade so he can lick the bowl!
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create.peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 09:57 AM
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48. as much as i am not a processed food fan, you can use
egg beaters, or store brand, that are pasteurized, if you want him to enjoy it still!
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cherish44 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 09:47 AM
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43. Well as long as we're getting on our high horse let me say this
Cookies, whether store-bought or homemade are nothing but sugary, no-nutritional-value CRAP that our kids get way too much of. If you give your kids healthy things to snack on like fruit and veggies not only will you not have to do dishes and make a mess, but it's so much better for them. (Takes a bow in response to thunderous applause) :)
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 12:26 PM
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66. Agreed that kids these days have too many "treats" n/t
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yy4me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 10:26 AM
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51. Are you making reference to the recall of Nestles cookie dough?
I get the updates every few days and one came yesterday warning of the recall. Will try and find the link... here you go.

http://www.fda.gov/Safety/Recalls/ucm167954.htm
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 10:27 AM
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52. Use Eggbeaters instead of eggs. It's pasteurized.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 10:40 AM
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60. +100
I've used egg substitute in baking for a long time now. Great way to be able to snack and cook without the worry. :-)
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 10:27 AM
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53. Hey stoners! Eat cold pizza instead!
Pre-made cookie dough tastes great when you've had a few bong hits. You know, when you don't have the patience for the oven to heat up and need something sweet and greasy to satisfy the munchies.

Samonella is a real bummer, though. Leftover pizza satisfies the munchies, too. Eat cold pizza instead.

(not based on any actual experiences of mine, of course!)
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queenofcups Donating Member (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 01:19 PM
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71. What was the source of the e-coli? Have they determined yet?
Must be the eggs...Salmonella is usually the pathogen associated with eggs, but there was probably some contamination at the factory farm. Can't blame spinach, tomatoes, or green onions for this outbreak!

I just cannot see, however, why Nestle should protect people who take something incorrectly. Maybe they were afraid that since it's contaminated, it's unsafe even after baking.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 02:36 PM
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75. "Modern-day" eggs are not all that safe, so even homemade dough
can have salmonella. It's a relatively unsafe thing to do, eating raw dough, but it's also kind of in our DNA:) Every kid has probably sneaked a taste of cake batter, "licked the spoon", or eaten cookie dough..

Maybe our immune systems are no longer able to handle the onslaught of "stuff" now in our food..
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 02:36 PM
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76. No, you are going to make cookie dough for us and you are going to like it a lot. nt
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 02:43 PM
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77. When is the last time you made cookies with 4 year olds?
Then you would know it takes a LOT longer than getting together the ingredients and mixing it together because a lot of the problem is the MESS.

There is a lot of opportunity for disaster with all that flour in a aluminum bowl in a pretty small kitchen, with little kids standing on stools.
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 07:55 PM
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88. Real refrigerator cookies take a while to make.
You can mix up the batter and drop it in gobs on a cookie sheet, or if you want real ones you can roll it into a roll, and stick it in the fridge to harden overnight.

I've made pinwheel (vanilla and chocolate mixed) refrigerator cookies and they are pretty labor-intensive.

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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 08:32 PM
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92. Haven't made those for decades
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-20-09 08:00 PM
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89. Yeah really.
They should have just recalled a batch of e coli because it was tainted with Nestle's cookie dough.
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