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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 01:55 PM
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TIME cover story: America's Broken-Down Army


America's Broken-Down Army
Thursday, Apr. 05, 2007
By MARK THOMPSON

For most Americans, the Iraq war is both distant and never ending. For Private Matthew Zeimer, it was neither. Shortly after midnight on Feb. 2, Zeimer had his first taste of combat as he scrambled to the roof of the 3rd Infantry Division's Combat Outpost Grant in central Ramadi. Under cover of darkness, Sunni insurgents were attacking his new post from nearby buildings. Amid the smoke, noise and confusion, a blast suddenly ripped through the 3-ft. concrete wall shielding Zeimer and a fellow soldier, killing them both. Zeimer had been in Iraq for a week. He had been at his first combat post for two hours.

If Zeimer's combat career was brief, so was his training. He enlisted last June at age 17, three weeks after graduating from Dawson County High School in eastern Montana. After finishing nine weeks of basic training and additional preparation in infantry tactics in Oklahoma, he arrived at Fort Stewart, Ga., in early December. But Zeimer had missed the intense four-week pre-Iraq training—a taste of what troops will face in combat—that his 1st Brigade comrades got at their home post in October. Instead, Zeimer and about 140 other members of the 4,000-strong brigade got a cut-rate, 10-day course on weapon use, first aid and Iraqi culture. That's the same length as the course that teaches soldiers assigned to generals' household staffs the finer points of table service.

The Army and the White House insist the abbreviated training was adequate. "They can get desert training elsewhere," spokesman Tony Snow said Feb. 28, "like in Iraq." But outside military experts and Zeimer's mother disagree. The Army's rush to carry out President George W. Bush's order to send thousands of additional troops more quickly to Iraq is forcing two of the five new brigades bound for the war to skip standard training at Fort Irwin, Calif. These soldiers aren't getting the benefit of participating in war games on the wide Mojave Desert, where gun-jamming sand and faux insurgents closely resemble conditions in Iraq. "Given the new policy of having troops among the Iraqis," says Lawrence Korb, a former Pentagon personnel chief, "they should be giving our young soldiers more training, not less." Zeimer's mother was unaware of the gap in her son's training until TIME told her about it on April 2. Two days later the Army disclosed that Zeimer may have been killed by friendly fire. "They're shipping more and more young kids over there who don't know what they're getting into," Janet Seymour said quietly after learning what her son had missed. "They've never seen war other than on the TV."

The truncated training—the rush to get underprepared troops to the war zone—"is absolutely unacceptable," says Representative John Murtha, the Pennsylvania Democrat and opponent of the war who chairs the House Appropriations defense subcommittee. A decorated Marine veteran of Vietnam, Murtha is experiencing a sense of déjà vu. "The readiness of the Army's ground forces is as bad as it was right after Vietnam," Murtha tells TIME. Even Colin Powell—a retired Army general, onetime Chairman of the Joint Chiefs and Bush's first Secretary of State—acknowledges that after spending nearly six years fighting a small war in Afghanistan and four years waging a medium-size war in Iraq, the service whose uniform he wore for 35 years is on the ropes. "The active Army," Powell said in December, "is about broken."...

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1606888,00.html
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jilln Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 02:00 PM
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1. Uh-oh, they're emboldening the enemy.
TIME magazine should be hung.

And those responsible for causing the situation in the article should be honored.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 02:01 PM
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 02:08 PM
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4. I like your thinking.
The Hague is looking too prissy.
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Sapere aude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 02:07 PM
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3. This is not new. I was a radar repairman in Vietnam. During Tet we were attacked by North
Edited on Thu Apr-05-07 02:17 PM by Sapere aude
Vietnam regulars. I was given less than 1/2hr training on an M-60 machine gun then sent out to defend our area. Me and another guy and our M-60.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 02:10 PM
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6. OMG -- thanks for this info, and for your service. nt
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 02:19 PM
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7. They get a bit warm, don't they?
(Remembering.) :scared:
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Sapere aude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-06-07 04:02 PM
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17. We made a damned good target out of ourselves!
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peace13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 02:08 PM
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5. Time is nothing but a mouthpiece for those immoral Democrats!
I don't believe a word they say!! Oh...sorry , just hearing what my mother would have to say in response to this.
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partylessinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 02:24 PM
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8. What goes around--
"They can get desert training elsewhere," spokesman Tony Snow said Feb. 28, "like in Iraq."



Our soldiers are being sent to die or be gravely wounded by the most callous and hate-filled cast of characters ever assembled in this country.



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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 02:37 PM
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 02:47 PM
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10. "A lot of canaries are dropping dead in the mine."
Andrew Krepinevich, a retired Army officer who advises his old service.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 02:57 PM
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11. Where does a dead fish rot first?
...In the head! If the army is breaking down it isn't because of the troops, it is in the high command top military decision makers that the problem must be identified
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 03:15 PM
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12. As an ex AR....
it has caused me great pain to watch the Army and AR be destroyed. It has been death by a thousand cuts. Unless a draft is instituted, we will have no protection in the future. I feel for my brothers and sisters in arms.:cry:
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Rydz777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 04:19 PM
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13. It's not just the Army
It's the Marines too - stretched to the breaking point.
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pigpickle Donating Member (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 06:06 PM
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14. k&r
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peace13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 08:21 PM
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15. Bring the troops home now! n/t
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Morgana LaFey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 10:19 PM
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16. table service. the fine points of table service.
makes me want to throw up on those tables.

two hours, first combat mission, one week in country. Gives a whole new level of meaning to the term "cannon fodder," doesn't it?

I think claims that our Army is "about broken" are wildly optimistic. I think it's been broken for a couple of years now. But what do I know?
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