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DaveinJapan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 02:06 AM
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Great example of the disingenuousness of Sarah Palin
Sorry if this has already been posted or talked about, I looked around but didn't notice this particular angle. Also it's my very first topic, so go easy on me. :p

Anyway, KO brought this up in his show but I noticed he sort of missed the real disingenuous nature of Palin's comment on the today show about what Barack Obama said on the campaign trail about families of candidates amid all her blathering on about "double standards".

WHAT SHE CLAIMED...(please watch video to see just how nasty her tone was, it just doesn't convey in print as it should)...

http://citizensagainstproobama...anscript

"Here’s the problem, Matt – the double standard that has been applied here. One, let’s talk politically, the double standard. First, remember in the campaign, Barack Obama said the family’s off-limits – you don’t talk about my family. And the candidate who must be obeyed – everybody adhered to that and left his family. They haven’t done that on the other side of the ticket, and it has continued to this day. So that’s a political double standard."

WHAT HE ACTUALLY SAID...

http://blogs.abcnews.com/polit...dia.html

"At a brief press availability in Monroe, Mich., ABC News asked Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., if he had any response to Gov. Sarah Palin's statement that her unmarried 17-year-old daughter Bristol is pregnant.

"Let me be a clear as possible: I have said before and I will repeat again, I think people's families are off limits," Obama said, "and people's children are especially off limits.

"This shouldn't be part of our politics," he continued, "It has no relevance to Gov. Palin's performance as governor, or her potential performance as a vice president.

"And so I would strongly urge people to back off these kinds of stories," he said. "You know my mother had me when she was 18, and how a family deals with issues and, you know, teenage children, that shouldn't be the topic of our politics and I hope that anybody who is supporting me understands that's off limits.""



So basically, Barack Obama was protecting HER kid, and she throws it back in his face instead of graciously acknowledging it. Classy.

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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 02:27 AM
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1. I think she overestimates her popularity.
She paraded her kids around and went on about family values ad nauseum. How could she think comedians wouldn't have a field day, with a pregnant daughter who's preachig abstinence?

(BTW, I was wondering why she was in TX during one interview I watched. Come to find out she';s selling the alaskan wilderness to Exxon Mobile. That will probably make her hugely popular in AK.)


Welcommen, bienvenue, come on in! :hi:
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Caliman73 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 04:09 AM
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4. She possesses a politician's worst flaws
She is ignorant and arrogant. Too stupid to actually know anything and too vain to know what she doesn't know and just shut up.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 03:42 PM
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26. She possesses a 15-year-old "Cliquey" high-school girl's worst flaws.
She's never matured past the "Heather" stage of adolescent development.
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cwydro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 04:27 PM
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27. Exactly.
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Adenoid_Hynkel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 03:30 AM
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2. She's getting coaching
She can lie and spin like the best of the radio wingnuts.

Though I think her smugness may overtake any gains she makes in that department.
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DaveinJapan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 03:58 AM
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3. I was thinking the same thing
particularly with her vitriolic response about the President. She sounds SO angry.

Maybe she should take some advice from her former running mate, he's correct in saying that nobody likes an angry candidate much.
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SmileyRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 01:15 AM
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20. I think it's more like she's a wind up doll
they pull her string and she spews whatever she was programmed to spew.
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corpseratemedia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 06:26 AM
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5. I think she has some form of personality disorder
maybe narcissistic, or borderline, like a lot of rwers

her life seems completely undisciplined, erratic and chaotic with a lot of projection/blame for others

she isn't that popular, which i think is why the M$$M uses her, as a big FU and a anti-cerebral whack over the head to the majority of people who voted for Obama.

They keep her and her nascent fascism alive as a threat .
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drmeow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 01:11 AM
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17. At least some Histrionic combined with
the Narcissistic:

"Histrionic personality disorder (HPD) is defined by the American Psychiatric Association as a personality disorder characterized by a pattern of excessive emotionality and attention-seeking, including an excessive need for approval and inappropriate seductiveness, usually beginning in early adulthood. These individuals are lively, dramatic, enthusiastic, and flirtatious. They may be inappropriately sexually provocative, express strong emotions with an impressionistic style, and be easily influenced by others."

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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 06:47 AM
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6. Good point!
That actual quote from Obama first came about when he was defending her ass....what a twit. Plus, "the candidate who shall be obeyed"? Bitter much? The media didn't exactly leave his wife alone, and what negative stories are you going to write about 8 year olds? And I remember a lot of "He brought those kids to that church for 20 years" and calling them props when they did that interview with Extra(?). Yes, Obama just said "Family off limits!" and the press corps all bowed before him.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 06:57 AM
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7. Excellent point!
Obama defended her children and her family.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 06:58 AM
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8. Why do people give a fuck about Sarah Palin?
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 07:03 AM
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9. your first "recommend"
peace and low stress
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DaveinJapan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 12:52 AM
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13. Thanks. :)
Peace and low stress right back at ya.
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Glorfindel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 07:49 AM
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10. Welcome to DU! And thanks for a thoughtful post
Recommended :hi: :kick:
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BadgerKid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 11:47 AM
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11. Nice catch. Also, her absolute anti-abortion view
Edited on Sat Jun-13-09 11:48 AM by BadgerKid
could be said by some to be as anti-woman as she's claiming Letterman was.

EDIT:
Palin On Abortion: I'd Oppose Even If My Own Daughter Was Raped
September 1, 2008
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/01/palin-on-abortion-id-oppo_n_122924.html


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SmileyRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 01:18 AM
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21. Who cares what she opposes.
God forbid anyone's daughter get raped but if it happens it's the daughter who decides, not Mom.
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rustydog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 12:48 PM
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12. Sara Palin is having her "Tonya Harding" moment
your 15 minutes are over sweet cheeks, start doing voice over work on amazing horrible accident video shows!
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 01:02 AM
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14. Welcome to DU, Dave.
Good post.

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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 01:06 AM
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15. Sarah and Tawd pimp their kids ... and resented Obama saying they shouldn't.
It's clear. :shrug:

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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 01:07 AM
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16. Great post, and a great catch. Sara Palin is an ignorant shmo, and she's proud of it.
Her 15 minutes of fame have been like chewing on aluminum foil, but they're almost up.
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 01:12 AM
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18. HE'S more interested in protecting the kids, SHE'S
just being an attention ho. I swear if she is really so upset about the the damn joke, she seems to want to make sure that EVERYONE IN THE WORLD HEARS IT TWICE AND THINKS IT PERTAINS TO HER 14 Y/O! It's so weird. What mother would do that? It's like when she outed Bristol's pregnancy when there were rumors about her own pregnancy, she's like "SEE? She can't be my kids mom cuz she's PREGNANT!" Hello? She could have just released her med records and not even gone there. She is CONSTANTLY using those kids and then complaining that other people are using them!
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 01:14 AM
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19. So how'd she like John McCain's Chelsea Clinton joke?
I'm guessing she's totally fine with the famous Janet Reno/Chelsea Clinton joke.
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southerncrone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 02:22 AM
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22. She's nothing but trash.
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DaveinJapan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 06:04 AM
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23. I like John Stewart's word...
grifters. :p

Thanks very much all for the kind welcome. :)
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southerncrone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 09:55 PM
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32. Yes, grifters is a better description. I'll throw in scum, too!
A warm welcome to DU. Look forward to your additions to our site. :hi:
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DaveinJapan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 06:09 AM
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24. Thanks all for the warm welcome, by the way! n/t
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 03:13 PM
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25. Kick
:kick:
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 04:44 PM
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28. More fuel for the right wing terrorists out there.
They are looking for someone to follow blindly and all these power pundits are eyeing the job.
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ohheckyeah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 04:56 PM
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29. Neither of the links work for me. n/t
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DaveinJapan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 07:48 PM
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30. easy enough to find
The Palin quote is from an interview she did with Matt Lauer on the Today show, Monday June 15th I believe.

The other quote can be googled using "Obama comment Palin daughter" or something like that.

Sorry the links aren't working anymore.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-14-09 07:54 PM
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31. Wants her kids off limits but pushes them to the front of the stage.
Edited on Sun Jun-14-09 07:54 PM by Ilsa
That doesn't sound like motherly love to me. Sounds more like ambition and using her kids to get what she wants for herself.
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