How many men do you know who have seriously considered how parenthood will affect their careers?

[Boojatta]

[Oregone]

1. How will it affect their careers?

[Mythsaje]

2. Probably not as much as it can affect the mother's.

My guess is that's the point of the question.

[Oregone]

11. There are stay at home dad's too, you know

Those are all choices in some way or another.

But don't yell at men. Yell at your government. As an aside, my wife is on paid maternity for 1 year, with her job guaranteed when she returns (Canada).

[Mythsaje]

19. Oh, believe me, I know.

I've been there. In general, however, having a child usually has a greater effect on a woman's career than a man's. In the U.S., anyway. It's part of how people (and I use the term loosely) like Tom Lykus defends paying women less than men.

[ejpoeta]

3. i don't know any. beyond the usual worrying about making sure you have health insurance.

My BIL switched jobs because of health insurance. He left a job he loved to take one that paid more and had the health insurance he needed. He hated that new one, but stuck with it. Til he got fired because he was being harassed by some other workers in his office. He had asked for a separate space to work because he has ADD, but they ignored him.

In the sense of whether their climb up the ladder would be impinged by kids, no. I don't think men look at it the same way women do. Kids are generally the woman's thing to deal with. Which is not true in all cases, but being socially engineered it seems to have the kids be my thing to have to handle no matter what.... it is hard not to consider that in every decision you make regarding whether to get a job etc.

[spoony]

4. I'd say most of the fathers I know.

They worried whether they were in a job that payed well enough to support a family and if they'd have to reconsider their location/position, go back to school, etc. Why?

[orpupilofnature57]

5. I know many people, men and women who don't consider parenthood,

until their career is started ,which then affects the world.

[Captain Hilts]

6. A couple who decided to get out of the Navy so as not to miss their kids' childhoods. But, your

point is a VERY good one.

VERY.

[Pholus]

7. My wife and I discussed it quite a bit, actually.

How could we not since we're both professionals. But, we make it work! Besides,
"I've got to go pick up the kids" is the best remedy to a Tuesday afternoon make-work meeting!

[orpupilofnature57]

12. Besides" I've got kids" lets us ,the rest of the world, make it work ,thanks...

for having kids ,how could you not?

[Pholus]

18. You're welcome.

You have time to post here, so don't act all hoity-toity. ;)

[HopeHoops]

8. Well, I didn't take that into consideration before we had our first, however...

There is a DEFINITE bias against men who are involved in parenting. I've had several bosses (they change regularly in some companies) who allegedly HAD kids but couldn't understand "I have to take care of my sick kid because my wife is also barfing her brains out".

Some men are just unapologetic dickheads. My response has always been - "Fine, so fucking fire me - I'm staying home to take care of my family." They couldn't afford to fire me.

[underpants]

9. In the 60's my father got a promotion for each of us- two kids

the guy OBVIOUSLY needs more money :shrug: he has two kids!!

Seriously. No lie.

[fishnfla]

10. alot

but i coach youth sports and the dads in that crowd are dedicated. I also see dads dropping off their kids and picking them up from school, same as me, I keep my schedule that way.

The one guy is a mailman, they wanted to move him up the road with a shot as postmaster. He figured he would not be able to pick his daughter up from school and get her to cheerleading and get to coach his sons. turned it down

the other dude owns a car dealership. when he found out his wife was pregnant, he sold half of it to free up his schedule

[TahitiNut]

13. Quite a few, actually.

:shrug: In fact, I know of none who didn't.

But don't let that get in the way of biased stereotypes. :puke:

[Boojatta]

17. If the simple question that is the Original Post of this thread ...

elicited a puke smilie, then you'll need a mega-puke smilie to respond to an old comment that I made about "spam" on DU:

The word "spam" is most frequently used to refer to a kind of email message. Now, that doesn't imply that we must use the word only in that narrow context. However, an important aspect of email spam is that there is a large number of recipients who did nothing other than open an email account that could possibly be interpreted as consent to receive the email spam.

It's difficult to block spam that is sent from some list of email addresses because the senders apparently don't encounter any significant cost or inconvenience in creating new email accounts to use to send spam.

Now, if there are some flavors of message content that some people agree to call "spam-like" then, regardless of the particular format of those messages (such as poll format or other format), then it should be possible for those people to work together to classify every newly posted message as "spam-like" or non-"spam-like." It should then be possible to add a new feature to the message board software that gives members of the board an opportunity to choose the ignore option for all allegedly spam-like posts anywhere on the message board or for all allegedly spam-like posts in particular sub-forums.

[dweller]

14. one

me

i'm sure i know others, but haven't asked them how 'seriously' they've considered.
dp

[QueenOfCalifornia]

15. I'd say most men

these days consider it a lot.

Being an involved father is a choice. My children have a father who likes being with them and who is involved as much as he can be. He works 10 hour days and sometimes a lot more but he does try to make extra time.

He has thought about taking a job which would entail us moving to the other coast - he knows that uprooting our kids from our neighborhood and schools would be hard and so he probably will not make a move which he would probably make if he did not have children.

[elehhhhna]

16. mine did. took off 5 years w/ our baby girls...

being a white guy in America, he was reemployed w/ no trouble the minute he wanted to go back to work.

The major impact was the loss of 300K or so in income over that time...but it was totally worth it.