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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 02:19 AM
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The Nation: We're Screwed On Everything From Health Care To The Economy If The Dems Don't Shape Up
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We're Screwed on Everything From Health Care to the Economy If the Dems Don't Shape Up
By William Greider, The Nation. Posted June 9, 2009.

The Dems aid and protect their free-roaming entrepreneurial politicians and don't punish those who undermine the party's larger promises.

The governing party faced an awkward dilemma. People were hurting and furious at the government's generous bailouts for banks. But how could the Democrats do something for the folks without upsetting their friends and patrons in the banking industry? Democrats think they found a way. They are enacting a series of measures described as "breakthrough" reform and "unprecedented" defeat for the bankers. Only these achievements are more accurately understood as "reform lite." The house is on fire and Democrats brought a garden hose.

The Democratic Party is changing in some promising ways, but what's impressive is how much it has not changed. Does that sound harsh? I am relying on private judgments from Washington players regarded as the "white hats" on this subject -- consumer lobbyists and other public-interest reformers, who for years have labored in frustration to enact laws that would restore equity and honest relationships to the out-of-control financial system. These organizations mostly endorse the Democrats' efforts and celebrate their "victories." But a few minutes of private conversation reveals their doubt and disappointment. "It's a good bill," they will say, then after enumerating the shortcomings add, "It's better than nothing."

"This has to be on background, OK?" one of the reformers said. "This crisis brought down the world economy and yet Congress still hasn't passed a bill making sure it doesn't happen again."

Julia Gordon, a lawyer with the Center for Responsible Lending, did not seek anonymity. "We have reached the moment to ask ourselves Rabbi Hillel's question: if not now, when?" Gordon said. "I fear we are letting this crucial moment pass without putting forward-looking rules in place to fundamentally change how mortgages are made and prevent predatory lending. Plus, when we look back at the foreclosure tsunami that devastated so many families, we're going to be ashamed that we did not fix the bankruptcy code to permit mortgage modification. That move alone could have prevented more than a million foreclosures, and while I predict we will revisit the issue in the future, it will be like closing the barn door after the horse has died."

If not now, when? That question ought to haunt the Democratic Party and President Obama, who has been missing in action himself on key issues. Congressional Democrats are responding to this epic conflagration with the same risk-avoidance tactics they learned during many years in minority status. In those days, they could always blame right-wing Republicans for blocking their good intentions. But whom do the Dems blame now that they have the White House and fifty-nine votes in the Senate and a seventy-eight-seat majority in the House? Their standard explanation for not doing more is, "We didn't have the votes." So when might we expect Democrats to achieve more? When they have eighty votes in the Senate?

- snip -

The much-celebrated "Credit Cardholders' Bill of Rights" is a fresh example of how the Democratic Party tries to have it both ways -- avoiding the tough votes while mollifying the folks. The credit card reform measure imposes new rules on the industry and does away with many of the most outrageous gimmicks bankers use to extract more money from debtors. Banks cannot raise interest rates retroactively on old credit card balances or pile on hidden fees or fail to give advance notice for rate increases. These and other changes are worthy.

The achievement seems less courageous if you know that Congress was largely ratifying the regulatory rules already adopted by the Federal Reserve last year...

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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 02:42 AM
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1. the moment surely is passing, and very quickly indeed
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Communication Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 03:08 AM
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2. This quote about sums it up
"This has to be on background, OK?" one of the reformers said. "This crisis brought down the world economy and yet Congress still hasn't passed a bill making sure it doesn't happen again."
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 03:13 AM
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3. same with torture
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 05:55 PM
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19. And the environment
the clock is ticking on so many issues and most of our Dems are MIA-or worse, complicit with the Repugs.
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 11:50 PM
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34. Yes. That is the biggie. Nothing else will matter if we are constantly having to
relocate, save and help people in crisis. And it will happen and is happening. We need to charge forward and get the most Progressive people in possible. There is no time left.
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DaLittle Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 10:13 PM
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27. K &R! The Dems Think WE R Morons, Can't See Thru Their BS... They R Going Tio Get
Massecred in 2010 cause the Dems R going to sit out. Why support these pieces of crap? Cause the Repubs R just a smidgen bit worse... These Klowns need to be exchanged for REAL DEMOCRATS w/ some cahunas! FUCK 'EM!
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TheWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 11:33 PM
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32. If you read some of the "Big Things Are happening With healthcare" threads tonight, I hate to say it
Edited on Tue Jun-09-09 11:35 PM by TheWatcher
But they are RIGHT, to an extent.

As a country we are losing our minds.

So intent and desperate to Worship "The Football Team" and believe in them that they are ACTUALLY willing to believe that a pile of dog shit is Godiva Chocolate, and they will ATTACK you for not going along with them.

DU has reached a level of desperate Delusion I didn't think was possible.

And unfortunately from some I have always revered and respected.


it seems that many of us have decided to take whatever crumbs our so-called "leaders" are willing to give them and worship them as if they were Gods, and shout down and marginalize the rest of us who can actually SEE what's going on.

They don't want REAL Change of any kind.

The want whatever they can get and be good little serfs, and the rest of us better fall in line, or else.

This is NOT going to end well.

FOR ANY OF US.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 04:30 AM
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4. A more realistic headline: We're Screwed On Everything From Health Care To The Economy
Does anyone seriously think the Democrats are going to "shape up"?

Big money has a steely grip on our politician's gonads and their hearts and minds surely follow.



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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 07:18 AM
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15. It's all about keeping their status quo
Edited on Tue Jun-09-09 07:19 AM by DemReadingDU
Politicians love their power and money. Most rules are passed to benefit them, and big business, not us. It's only a handful of Reps and Senators who truly work for the people's interests.
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asteroid2003QQ47 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 06:24 PM
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20. We HAVE politicians and said politicians HAVE gonads? n/t
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 03:54 AM
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46. I was being charitable.. n/t
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laststeamtrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 04:34 AM
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5. K & R - n/t.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 04:35 AM
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6. k/r
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 05:10 AM
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7. k & r
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 05:22 AM
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8. K&R nt
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BanzaiBonnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 05:25 AM
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9. if not now, when
Edited on Tue Jun-09-09 05:25 AM by BanzaiBonnie
I'm going to start using this phrase in every conversation and writing.


Anyone else in? I think it would be the very best meme to spread for all the work that needs to be done.


If not now, when?

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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 05:38 AM
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10. Obviously, when the Democrats control the Executive and the Legislative..
Which they clearly do not now.
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 06:46 AM
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14. The real problem is not the Democrats, it is
DINO's, right wing democrats that really should be republicans. And to a greater extent, bought off politicians of any stripe.
The real problem is that our government has been bought by and paid for by private business entrusts.
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 11:51 PM
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35. It should be all donations limited to $1 for each person and 0 for Companies/Groups.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 01:22 AM
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44. I used to think that it was a select class of a few Dems that were such out and out thieves.
Edited on Thu Jun-11-09 01:34 AM by truedelphi
But after seeing that the first piece of legislation affecting my home business after the Dems got the power in 2006 -- that legislation involved raising the postage rates for small businesses only, while giving the biggies like Time Warner breaks.

Now I have little faith in any of them.


Okay Kucinich, Maxine Waters, Lynn Woolsey and Barbara Boxer come to mind as caring about us. But most of the others are quite willing to put a knife in the middle incomed and the poor, and keep turning that knife for as long as the Elite tell them to.
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Psychic Consortium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 06:32 AM
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11. Very good. The time is now. It will happen. nt
Edited on Tue Jun-09-09 06:33 AM by Psychic Consortium
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 07:23 AM
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16. When?
Edited on Tue Jun-09-09 07:26 AM by DemReadingDU
Nothing's going to change. We need to vote out most all of the incumbents, and vote in people who are not beholden to big business and lobbyists, before we see any change. And under the system we have now, it's not going to happen any time soon.

Edit for clarity.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 06:42 AM
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12. You're Wrong About Battlin' Barrack and the Fightin' Congressional Dems!!!
They'll stop at nothing to use their power to held the average American!!! Unless someone's paying cash, of course.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 12:33 PM
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42. LOL
Battlin' Barrack and the Fightin' Congressional Dems :spray: :rofl:
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 02:00 AM
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45. LOL
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 06:45 AM
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13. There are only a handful of journalists left..
... who have the integrity that mandates listening to what they say.

Greider is one of them, and believe me he is no Republican.
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 03:07 PM
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17. K&R
:kick:
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 05:26 PM
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18. Screwed, blued, and tattooed with a big "This is a RW nation" plastered on each of our
asses? :P
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Jakes Progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 08:19 PM
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21. Kinda makes all that celebrating
on inauguration night downright silly. Don't we all feel like goats?

While we were partying and laughing, so were the people who really run things. They were partying because they knew they were in for four more years of money and power, and they were laughing at us idiots who actually thought change was coming.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 08:20 PM
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22. Sadly, yes.
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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 12:13 AM
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37. yep and this president's vision hasn't really shown me sh... so far!
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 12:35 PM
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43. Sure fooled a lot of people, didn't he/they?
:shrug:
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 08:51 PM
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23. K&R
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LuckyLib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 09:28 PM
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24. Congress is corporate owned. The MSM is corporate owned.
We actually have so little people power it's frightening.

I'd like one congresscritter to remember that he/she was sent to represent the people and to work for the good of the country.
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 09:33 PM
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25. There are still several who do remember: Dennis Kucinich and Marcy Kaptur for two
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snot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 09:46 PM
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26. k&r'd; and
Edited on Tue Jun-09-09 09:57 PM by snot
We also MUST start regulating credit derivatives, esp. to prohibit derivatives sold to parties with no "insurable interest" in any actual assets (i.e., the ones who are not hedging actual risks associated with assets they actually own but who are merely speculating at the expense of the rest of everyone else).

We should also restore Glass-Steagall, restore funding for the regulators, claw back excessive compensation paid to the executives who created or acquiesced in this gravy-train-wreck, and break up companies that are "too big too fail" -- too big to fail should be made an automatic violation of anti-trust law. And so much more.
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 10:19 PM
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28. K&R
:kick:
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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 11:09 PM
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29. K & R
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 11:16 PM
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30. The Dems aren't going to "shape up". The sooner that is recognized the sooner we can get to fixing
the problems. All republiCons are bad. And enough Dems are bad that between the two we are screwed.

You can't talk about the Dems as a unit because a big share are republiCon lites. As long as we have red-dog Dems we will have problems in the party.
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farmboxer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 11:19 PM
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31. Politicians lie! I am sick of it. We need health care NOW!
I am thinking about moving to Europe where I can get health care. I voted Democratic and expect them to support "We the people" not "They the corporations!" I hate living within a plutocracy. Yes, corporations always win here, they count, the people mean nothing.
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Mithreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 11:42 PM
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33. K&R. Let's do what we can to make corporate Dems miserable. nt
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 11:54 PM
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36. Vote and work for a better Dem. We need to get rid of the deadweights. We need to
make sure the Republicans never see the light of day again from their place under the rock they live under.
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Mithreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 12:18 AM
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38. That's not enough. I do agree otherwise. nt
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Dragonfli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 12:24 AM
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39. K&R
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 12:48 AM
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40. William Greider is always spot on. He is right once again.
Excellent article. Thanks for posting.
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 12:49 AM
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41. quote of the day
American Usury

One of the fundamental issues that party managers wished to avoid was the scandal of American usury. Usury is the ancient sin of charging inflated interest rates sure to ruin the borrowers. It is considered immoral by Judaism, Christianity and Islam because usury involves the powerful using their wealth to ensnare weak and defenseless borrowers. The classic usurer offers an impossible choice that debtors cannot easily refuse. If they reject the terms of the loan, they will not be able to pay the rent or buy necessities. If they accept the usurious interest rates, their debts will accumulate until they are bankrupted (at which point the creditors claim their property). No civilized society can endure in such conditions.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 09:45 PM
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47. If we don't make the Dems shape up . . . where is our leverage?
Where do we have strings on government?

What plan B?
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 09:46 PM
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48. Ending campaing BRIBERY, barring corporations from any participation in elections . ..
Ending any organized lobbying -- !!!

MIC would be as impossible to knock out -- so much corporate controlled.
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Just-plain-Kathy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 10:18 PM
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49. Error: you can only recommend threads which were started in the past 24 hours
:kick:
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