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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 11:15 AM
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Your Ticking Time Bomb Scenario-So when do we get to start torturing this guy?
Edited on Mon Jun-08-09 11:16 AM by kpete
Your Ticking Time Bomb Scenario
June 8th, 2009 by John Cole

So when do we get to start torturing this guy:

The man charged with murdering a high-profile abortion doctor claimed from his jail cell Sunday that similar violence was planned around the nation for as long as the procedure remained legal, a threat that comes days after a federal investigation launched into his possible accomplices.

A Justice Department spokesman said the threat was being taken seriously and additional protection had been ordered for abortion clinics last week. But a leader of the anti-abortion movement derided the accused shooter as “a fruit and a lunatic.”

Scott Roeder called The Associated Press from the Sedgwick County jail, where he’s being held on charges of first-degree murder and aggravated assault in the shooting of Dr. George Tiller one week ago.

“I know there are many other similar events planned around the country as long as abortion remains legal,” Roeder said. When asked by the AP what he meant and if he was referring to another shooting, he refused to elaborate further.


Since there is no doubt that we have a history of anti-abortion domestic terrorism, and since we know that evangelicals already support torture for everyone, when do we get to start waterboarding this guy? Does he have any children whose testicles can be crushed? Will we keep him up for weeks on end in stress positions in extremely cold rooms to get him to break? Beat him? All the right made a very good show of how shocked and appalled they were when this man killed Dr. Tiller, so surely they will not object. So when do we get to start torturing this guy?

And of course, the answer should be “NEVER.” Torture is wrong. Torture is immoral. Torture is evil. Torture is illegal. Torture does more violence to our values than it does to the individual being tortured. Torture is unreliable. Torture is counter-productive- everything someone says after being tortured should be treated as suspect.

Just do your job and investigate. No need to become as bad as the criminal.

http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=22277
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 11:18 AM
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1. I do believe now is the time (according to the vast RW minority).
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 11:20 AM
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2. Thus should end any "Roeder IS NOT a Terrorist" talk...
That threat cements the FACT that Roeder did this to terrorize doctors and clinics.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 11:23 AM
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3. I've got the perfect torture for this bastard:
Bring my sister-in-law into his cell for an all night prayer vigil. He'll be pleading for the death penalty by 1 a.m.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 11:32 AM
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4. I could argue that no-one thinks Roeder has obtained a nuclear weapon
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 12:04 PM
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5. That statement kind of blows the 'lone nut case' theory
Edited on Mon Jun-08-09 12:06 PM by RaleighNCDUer
clear out of the fucking water.

RICO. Go after Randal Terry et al as criminal conspirators.
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