David Carradine's manager suspects foul play in actor's death

[XXXMADAM]

Source: CNN - HLN

By Alan Duke
CNN
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LOS ANGELES, California (CNN) -- David Carradine's wife and his manager disputed suggestions that the actor's death was a suicide, while rescue workers and police in Bangkok, Thailand, said the actor's neck and genitals were found bound with rope.
David Carradine was the star of the 1970s TV series, "Kung Fu," and appeared in more than 100 films.

David Carradine was the star of the 1970s TV series, "Kung Fu," and appeared in more than 100 films.
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Carradine, 72, became famous in the 1970s, when he portrayed the traveling Shaolin monk Kwai Chang Caine in the television series "Kung Fu."

Bangkok police said Carradine was found hanging by a nylon rope in a Bangkok hotel room closet Thursday morning.

A member of the emergency crew who was called to the hotel after a maid found Carradine told CNN that a yellow nylon rope was tied around the actor's neck and a black rope was around his genitals. Police later confirmed that information.

"I do not know if you want to call it accidental," Chuck Binder, Carradine's manager, told CNN's Larry King on Thursday. He said Carradine's career was on a roll.

Binder said a producer of the movie, "Stretch," which Carradine was to act in, called him from Thailand to tell him what was happening there.

"I do not want to get in the middle of this whole investigation, but this guy said to me for sure there was foul play," Binder said. Video Watch Carradine's friends discuss loss »

Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/06/05/carradine.death/index.html

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The elusive YELLOW NYLON ROPE is a trademark.

Bangkok is commonly used by the CIA and anti-traffickers to lure, ensnare,entrap child predators, hookers, drug dealers, and anyone else they decide to off.

A madam from Dallas, Tx was lured there and given a 'Life' sentence. My co-workers were lured there and to this day I have no idea what became of them. I was approached numerous times by an informant to go to Bangkok but refused to go then eventully they filed a 'Life' sentence on me in Texas.

xxx

[Captain Hilts]

1. Folks- we heard it here first - the CIA knocked off Carradine!

[XXXMADAM]

26. CIA Terrorist PIMPS

I'm not connecting that dot in itself, the claim YOU make re Carradine, but I certainly stand by the claim I carefully made in my post and on my websites as I encountered this scheme up close and personal and I personally KNOW a few the people involved.

http://www.defraudingamerica.com/robin_head.html

[rcrush]

2. Wrapping a rope around your genitals is a wierd thing to do while hanging yourself.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/05/carradine-had-rope-around_n_211689.html

BANGKOK — The body of American actor David Carradine, best known for the 1970s TV series "Kung Fu," was found in a hotel room closet with a rope tied to his neck and genitals, and his death may have been caused by accidental suffocation, Thai police said Friday.

Police Lt. Gen. Worapong Chewprecha told reporters that Carradine was found with a rope tied around his genitals and another rope around his neck.

"The two ropes were tied together," he said. "It is unclear whether he committed suicide or not or he died of suffocation or heart failure."










Most likley theres a hooker somewhere in Thailand thats scared shitless right now cause she fucked up.

[zazen]

3. Is this a routine S/M or "erotic asphixiation" practice?

I've just never heard of the two being tied together (literally).

[Hieronymus]

45. Sounds like it. That has been proposed in the press, as well.

[spinbaby]

4. OMG!

The CIA is hiring Thai hookers!

:rofl: :rofl:

[HopeHoops]

11. Why hire them? According to Neil Bush, they just show up at the door and want sex!

Not that you can believe anything a Bush says.

[dflprincess]

18. But Neil Bush lived to talk of his Thailand activities

no doubt because of Poppy's ties to the CIA. :rofl:

[monmouth]

31. Or they just didn't want a Bush in Thailand...n/t

[XXXMADAM]

32. They've BEEN hiring them

Is this so humorous?
xxx

[Soylent Brice]

9. you just nailed it.

my friends and i have been speculating as such since the story broke.

vegas has nothing on thailand.

[xultar]

10. Remember the CNN International Anchor busted in central park with drugs and a rope

tied around his package and neck?

He also had sex toys in his boot. He was goin out to hook up for the night and got totally busted.

Rope and sex, not such a weird combination as one would think.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

13. Yeah, my guess would have to be; the prostitute in the wardrobe with a rope.

I feel sorry for his wife Annie Bierman right now. No matter what the actual cause of death may, be this has got to be hard on her.

[Rebubula]

19. Ditto

"Most likely there's a hooker somewhere in Thailand that's scared shitless right now cause she fucked up."

That was my first thought as well...

[Mythsaje]

36. Honestly, that's my guess as well...n/t

[pscot]

5. See THE RULING CLASS

a 1972 film starring Peter O'Toole. A friend of mine once told me the story of a prostitute of his acquaintance who occasionally worked as a dominatrix. She flew down to SanFrancisco to party with and older man who liked kinky sex. The excitment did him in. He had a heart attack and died. She robbed him and split. Shit happens.

[nashville_brook]

6. "life sentence"? i don't follow. what "rules" had those people broken. whose rules?

wtf?

[XXXMADAM]

24. Drug smuggling stings by the CIA aimed directly at hookers

This will get a "Life" sentence in some countries and "Death by hanging" in others such as China.
xxx

[Buzz Clik]

7. Holy crapoli! I have a yellow nylon rope in my garage.

I never knew I was in the CIA or an anti-trafficker.

On the other hand, I've had the rope for years, and it never occurred to me to wrap it around the family jewels.

[AlexDeLarge]

23. The yellow one is for your neck.

The black one goes around the jewels.

[Buzz Clik]

28. No wonder I'm not in the CIA. This color coding crap drives me nuts.

:evilgrin:

[rhett o rick]

44. Good grief, didn't you see the power point. nm

[glinda]

40. What is this a symbol for???? Is this common?

[AsahinaKimi]

8. This from Larry King Live on CNN

Tarantino, also appearing on "Larry King Live," called Carradine one of "Hollywood's great mad geniuses."

http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/06/05/carradine.death/index.html#cnnSTCVideo

[rcrush]

12. I bet Larry King knows a thing about Thai Hookers.

Larry probably cheated a death a few times in thailand.

[dorkulon]

37. Nah--when Larry wants to get laid he just gets married. /nt

[Prisoner_Number_Six]

14. He was about to reveal the secret of the Invisible Death Punch.

The Hand HAD TO stop him- just like they stopped Bruce Lee and his son, Brandon.

[Butch350]

15. I hope D.C. was not a kiddy lover and someone offed him for it?

Hey, I love the guy, got all of D.C.'s movies - but just throwing that out there.

[Matariki]

46. Nice character assassination you're 'just throwing out there'.

[AsahinaKimi]

16. Fans might enjoy this ... Trip to China and real Shaolin Temple

Mr. Carradine got to visit a REAL Shaolin Temple a few years ago:
David Carradine's Shaolin Diary: Trip to CHINA ( PARTS 1-6 )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udSKN3eY66o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iwrk0K9g-60
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBV_4RGFdys
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEgjTY6qGes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbqS1E96ZN0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pZL88uJPPw

[chelsea0011]

17. Oh, this story is about to take on a life of it's own

[florida08]

20. yikes!

apparently grasshopper did not have knot training? A 72 year old? Guess I haven't heard it all. I liked Kill Bill..don't think I will watch it again though.

[MineralMan]

21. A pity. A kink led to his death. Such things happen.

It sounds like it was an unsafe environment for that particular kink.

[spiritual_gunfighter]

22. This isn't the first time Carradine has been accused of "bizarre sexual behavior"

Carradine's "Deviant Sexual Behavior"
Ex-wife accused actor of "potentially deadly" acts in court filing
JUNE 5--As investigators try to determine how actor David Carradine wound up hanging naked and dead in a Bangkok hotel closet with a rope tied around his genitals, a review of divorce court filings shows that his most recent ex-wife once accused the actor of "deviant sexual behavior which was potentially deadly." Additionally, Marina Anderson alleged in a sworn declaration that Carradine engaged in an "incestuous relationship with a very close family member." Anderson's declaration, an excerpt of which you'll find below, was filed in mid-2003 in Los Angeles Superior Court (the document was supposed to be filed under seal but was mistakenly placed in the public court file, where TSG found it). The declaration does not detail Carradine's alleged "deviant sexual behavior." As for the incest charge, Anderson reported that Carradine and the unnamed relative admitted the taboo relationship, but that her "pleas for him to get counseling in regards to this matter were ignored and he wanted no part in the healing process the other person needed in order to get closure." In a phone interview today, Anderson, who was married to Carradine for four years, said she stands by the allegations in her court filing, but declined to further discuss her charges. A Bangkok police official told reporters that investigators were examining whether Carradine accidentally suffocated while engaging in an autoerotic sex act. (4 pages)

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2009/0605092carradine1.html

[No Elephants]

30. "Incest with a very close family member." " Wanted no part in

the healing process the other person needed in order to get closure. "

Suddenly, he does not seem like such a likeable actor anymore.

[glinda]

41. Sometimes that is a common divorce excuse to get money. Maybe he was with a

Thai boy. I have had friends who have travelled there and said it is common to get that sort of arrangement or that is what they had understood and heard about.

[darkstar]

25. His hands were tied too? Have you seen these stories?

http://www.tmz.com/2009/06/05/carradines-rep-davids-hands-were-tied/

http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2009/06/david-carradines-hands-tied-mysteriously-in-death.html


A life of its own indeed....

[XXXMADAM]

29. How tied were they?

Tied so tight that only a man could've tied them? Or a tiny Thai hooker?

[whathehell]

42. Just a thought, but one of your links says he died in "a sitting position"

How do you "hang" in a sitting position?

[bananas]

48. "Mysteriously, a footprint found on the bed did not match the shoes worn by Carradine."

According to the Bangkok Post:

http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/local/17906/kung-fu-star-carradine-dead

MYSTERIOUS CIRCUMSTANCES
'Kung Fu' star Carradine dead

By: WASSAYOS NGAMKHAM
Published: 5/06/2009 at 12:00 AM

<snip>

Lumpini police said the body of Carradine was found curled up inside the wardrobe with one end of a shoelace tied around his penis and the other end fastened around his neck.

Both of his hands were bound with a cord which was also tied around his neck, said an officer at the station who requested anonymity.

Forensic experts said Carradine had probably died between 12 and 24 hours before his body was found.

They said there were no injury marks on his body and no evidence of a struggle having taken place in the room. Mysteriously, a footprint found on the bed did not match the shoes worn by Carradine.

There was a glass of water in the room. Experts were checking to see if the drink had been tampered with.

<snip>

[Joey Liberal]

27. Where was Dick Cheney when this happened? nt

[XXXMADAM]

33. Do you mean "Bruce Chiles"?

and CIA Dusty Foggo? D.C. Madam Palfrey?

[JenniferJuniper]

34. His ex-wife once accused him of his most recent ex-wife once accused him of

"deviant sexual behavior which was potentially deadly."

I'd say that solves that mystery. Of course, he was in Bangkok so he may have paid for some "assistance", but still, I think we can safely guess it was more Michael Hutchence than Phil Ochs.

[dorkulon]

35. Jesus, there are a lot of paranoids on DU.

It does get tiresome. For fuck's sake, Carradine is nothing but a washed-up actor.

[Captain Hilts]

38. Thank you. nt

[glinda]

39. He kind a creeped me out personally.

[grace0418]

43. It might help if you explained you last three paragraphs a little better.

If someone is reading them with no prior knowledge of the things you're talking about, it comes off a little... out there. The yellow rope is a trademark of what? What do you mean by "lured" and "life" sentence?

[Matariki]

47. Precisely. I just assumed the OP was off her meds.

Or something.

[Bucky]

49. Foul? Yes. Play? Foreplay is more like it.

Unless he was about to blow the lid off this whole deal (whichever whole deal it happens to be), then... no.