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UndertheOcean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 11:42 PM
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Couldn't the same Abortion arguments be made for assisted Suicide.
Shouldn't suicide also be a matter of choice , and available to anyone upon request.

This is not a snide at the right to choice , which is something I firmly believe in. And even if I don't , it is not my business what a woman wants to do with her body.

But in the same vein , shouldn't medically supervised euthanasia be available for anyone who wants it . Rather than resorting to private and unpredictable methods.

I think this makes a lot of sense , but please , poke holes in my argument.
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enlightenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 11:49 PM
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1. Briefly, yes.
Medically assisted/supervised euthanasia should be available.
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UndertheOcean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 11:52 PM
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4. Thanks ! my opinion too.
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 11:49 PM
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2. Choice ...........
It's all about choice.

People, especially professional Christians who profess to believe in a great reward in Heaven after death, don't seem to want anyone to get there. The idea of death drives them nuts, except when someone is murdering a physician who did his legal job very well.

I agree with you..................
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 11:51 PM
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3. Yes. I live in Oregon
I'm more worried about the Texas plan that lets an "ethics board" decide who can be removed from life support than individuals making those kinds of decisions for themselves.
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 11:56 PM
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5. Yes.
It should be our last privilege.
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handmade34 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 12:07 AM
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6. absolutely
people should decide themselves if and when they want to end their lives and get help to do it humanely. Woman should decide if and when they should terminate their pregnancy and get help to do it humanely. All people should be allowed to choose the partner of their choice and have equal legal benefits. Health care should be a right for all people as well as an education through college, safe shelter, fresh water and clean air. All people should give time to their community/country and then the rest can be variables.
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smalll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 12:10 AM
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7. Also, drug use.
No pro-choicer should ever be against marijuana legalization for example.
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UndertheOcean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 12:37 AM
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9. Yes , but what about hard drugs ?
those certainly merit some control ?
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UndertheOcean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 12:38 AM
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10. Yet , I am contradicting myself , isn't suicide the hardest drug of them all
This is a pattern with me , I ask a lot of questions , questions I have no answers for.
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 01:05 AM
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11. .......
"...isn't suicide the hardest drug of them all"

Only for people experiencing Major Depression.
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 05:52 AM
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15. If people abuse drugs in such a way that endangers themselves or others
the result should be that they are given treatment, not prison. That goes for any drug. We do it in other cases -- a person can be admitted to a hospital when they pose a danger to themselves/others. Drug abuse should be treated in the same way.
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 12:18 AM
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8. Not at all, actually.
Suicidal people are, in general, Depressed and have distorted thought patterns due to their mental illness called Depression. They might feel hopeless, even though it is only their mental state that makes them think their situation is hopeless.

Assisted suicide should never be allowed for anyone who is not terminally ill or terminally in physical pain. Assisted suicide should be a right of anyone who is terminally, seriously, ill, without hope of recovery.
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 01:21 AM
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12. Absolutely yes! I agree. n/t
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get the red out Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 05:30 AM
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13. Certainly! I fully support that
It is a travesty that our pets receive more mercy in this country at the end of life than human beings. To say I do not have the right to make my own decisions in this regard, that I am incapable of thinking properly; same thing as saying that I cannot make reproductive decisions on my own.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 05:49 AM
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14. Suicide should be a matter of choice.
And that includes the right to assisted suicide. Our current approach is downright appalling. We spend thousands of dollars a day forcing dying people to suffer until their insurance coverage is gone. Then, it is time to cut off their feeding tube or respirator, and make them die a sordid death.

All over America, dying people will suffer past their time, because a hospital hasn't completely exhausted the insurance or medicare benefits yet.
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dmallind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 06:08 AM
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16. Yep it should
The argument however is not necessarily best made on privacy grounds but on something even more basic - self determination.
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 06:57 AM
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17. Yes it should
And having gone through the experience of watching my mother suffer through multiple, debilitating strokes and the final one which eventually took her life, I am more committed than ever to individuals being able to take control of their end quality of life (and for their family and partners to be able to support their wishes). We are so thankful that Mom had a Living Will stating her wishes, and we were ALL crystal clear that Mom did not want any further means to prolong her life if she had another major stroke. There was no question to take to her off life support, we knew with no doubt that was what she wanted. It pained me so much to see the indignity she had before the last one, too. She hated the shriveled up person she had been forced to become and I really think she welcomed the end. It was humiliating for her to be that way. Mom was a geriatric nurse and knew what was in store.

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