Bravo Father Cutie

[malaise]

He's left the church and joined the Episcopalians - with his fiance at his side.
It's time someone wakes up the Pope and tell him that sexual intercourse is as normal as breathing.

Profit for the Catholic church cannot supersede basic human needs.
Have a good life Cutie.

[JuniperLea]

1. Allowing Catholic priests to marry...

Would create more Catholics. You'd think the Pope would be down with that!

Hat's off to Cutie.

[malaise]

3. But but but

he doesn't want to share the money with those families - that's all this celibacy bullshit is about - MONEY!!! You'd think that the amount of money they end up paying for their priests raping youngsters, and their bishops and archbishops covering up the crimes, would make them rethink these stupid policies but greedy men never learn.

[JuniperLea]

24. You make too much sense, malaise...

Of course it's about the money... how I missed that is beyond me! Jeez.

I really feel for the old school, serious Catholics... there are some really good people doing good things, and all the world knows about is the freakish things some priests do, and the seriously freakish decisions out of the Vatican.

[malaise]

25. My mom was one of them

She thought they were all saints until one of my sisters told her about the scandal. Of course she refused to believe that was possible.

[JuniperLea]

28. How sad for her...

I really feel for people so caught up.
Being raised in a Fundy church left me agnostic. Theres a lot of nasty preacher in that cult too.

Some people do good things without being prompted by a church. Imagine that!

[malaise]

33. My dad's oldest sister didn't go near a church

unless there was a wedding or a funeral.
Every single Friday she cooked a huge pot of soup and baked bread. Every beggar knew they could find a good meal at her place on Fridays. My grandparents left their home for her and she had a massive kitchen garden, a backyard full of fruit trees and she raised her own chickens.

She was a nurse and understood the meaning of service. She refused to drive and always rode her bicycle to work. She was my favorite aunt - the kindest person I ever knew and she sure had a profound influence on my life.

[JuniperLea]

35. Now THAT is a wonderful and charitable person!

That's exactly what I'm talking about. You are so fortunate to have had someone like that in your life. That's the kind of example we should all lift up and celebrate. There aren't enough like her, that's for sure.

Thanks for sharing that. :hug:

[malaise]

39. Yep - she died in her

eighties a decade ago and I still miss her.

[SoCalDem]

44. and at the time these "New Rules" came to pass

MOST people were illiterate, and trusted the clergy to "teach" them what they needed to know.. Words of wisdom from the religious leaders were literally "gospel"...

And of course with no birth control, and people marrying wives barely into their teens, there would be a LOT of children to support. Communities were responsible to "provide" for the priests, so just like the corporatists of today, who feel completely okay with hiring single gay people, so they don;t "tax" the benefot system, the communities probably liked "celibate" single priests too.. It's easier to support one old priest and a few old nuns, than to support a family of 8 or 9 kids:)

[Bucky]

2. Once he's a married Episcopal priest, can't he just turn around and covert back to Catholic

I know the RCC allows married Anglican priests to switch over to the Roman flavor. Is there some canon law preventing a double-conversion walk around? If so, seems like you could make money setting up a disconnect-reconnect consulting service for the lovelorn padres out there...

[malaise]

5. Don't know

:D

[rug]

23. It only applies to people who were Anglican first.

[Blue_Tires]

4. at least he is able to turn down the hypocrisy factor

but he is still a shit imo....

[malaise]

6. Why is he still a

shit?

[Blue_Tires]

8. i didn't care for his holier-than-thou

condemnations of Cuba...just imho

[malaise]

10. I know nothing about him

just his desire to be a man.

I avoid all religion but his story seemed pretty human to me.

[Cleita]

7. Dupe

Posted accidentally before I was done.

[malaise]

11. When I was very young we had a very handsome American parish priest

Imagine the shock when they found him at the drive in cinema with some man's wife. He flew out shortly after being discovered. That was hilarious - I still remember my mother and her friends gossiping about that.

[JuniperLea]

37. My Fundy preacher had an affair...

With a married member of the congregation. And upon hearing about it, his wife tried to commit suicide. How about that for faith in God, huh? This was in the early 70's when I was a young and impressionable young girl, and long before there was a Jim and Tammy Faye fiasco. It didn't take long for me to split that taco stand!

[Cleita]

9. So many handsome priests out there when I was in Catholic school. I always

thought it was a shame that they couldn't pass their genes on. I remember one, who always left me gaga when he spoke to me. He was the brother of a handsome movie star of the era, but he was much more handsome than his brother and he was such a nice, sweet man.

[blogslut]

12. Here's a wrench

If priests are allowed to marry, then shouldn't nuns be allowed to marry? Or is the fall-back reasoning that nuns "marry" christ?

[Stinky The Clown]

14. Nuns (Sisters) and Brothers are different from priests.

[Cleita]

15. No, chastity is a vow taken by members of orders of monks and nuns

according to the rules of their order. If the order said, sure you can marry, they could unless they were priests and took Holy Orders. However, I think the order would have to take in married couples to do so.

[malaise]

17. Why not

When we were at school the standard joke was
Why do two nuns always walk together
So none get get none :D

[Lisa0825]

20. In my own uninformed mind, I equate nuns more with monks than with priests.

Personally, it would be more egalitarian to allow women to be priests than to simply allow nuns to marry.

[frazzled]

27. My former next-door neighbors

Were an ex-priest and ex-nun, who left the church to marry. By the time we met them, they'd been married, with two teenage daughters, for many years.

[malaise]

29. I have two colleagues who have ben happily married

for decades. Both were priests who fell in love and married their girlfriends - they all have grand kids now and are still happily married.

[ejpoeta]

30. nuns are different. women are different. it's ridiculous and i can't figure why anyone would

want to participate in it.... but hey, i guess i don't understand much. i remember that my little sister was one of the first alter girls ever in our church.... that was in the late 80s.

[Stinky The Clown]

13. When I was young and Catholic and living in the diocese in which I was born and raised .......

.... The Episcopalians had a huge influx of ordained Catholic priests for exactly the same reason Cutie changed teams. I don't recall too many pedophile priests from our diocese, but I do remember a bunch of them with girlfriends. One was a friend of my parents and he remained their friend until they all died.

[malaise]

19. Smart guys

:D

[spanone]

16. i spent years in the church by way of my parents.....i ran away from religion as soon as i could

we also had a scandal in the diocese when a young, handsome priest who did a little too much 'counseling' with one of the parishioners wives.....

[malaise]

18. My mom was obsessed Catholic

by dad was an agnostic Lutheran - I am an atheist. No religion is the best religion.

[spanone]

21. that's the conclusion i've come to

i do miss being able to committ sins, then go to confession and !!!voila!!! i'm forgiven!


:crazy:

[malaise]

22. LOL

We used to make up stuff to tell the priest - we had a lot of fun.

[monmouth]

42. OMG Malaise, I did that. I was five and we were preparing for First Holy

Communion. Even though I didn't understand all of the ten commandments, I figured I'd better be on the safe side so I confessed to adultry....Priest's name was Fr.Sullivan and he sort of choked but let me continue. Later I told my father on the ride home, who immediately ran into the kitchen to my mother and the two of them were hysterical with laughter. Fr. Sullivan and my father were pretty good friends and I guess my "sin" was the light of his day...LOL.

[ejpoeta]

32. i never really understood that. i'd sit in church and wonder how it was possible for

men who beat their wives and kids to wipe their sins off at the door and be 'forgiven' by a priest.

[malaise]

34. It's the greatest racket on earth

Pay those tithes and all is forgiven. :evilgrin:

[spanone]

36. my parents, who had little, had to pay the church each week

it was called a donation, but they basically sent an invoice, like a bill

[malaise]

40. And had they dared stop paying

They would not receive a funeral service from them. People are really gullible.

[ejpoeta]

31. they expect these guys to ignore a part of who they are.... a real innate

need that we all have. i remember watching a thing about hte seven deadly sins on the history channel and they were talking about all of the seven deadly sins having to do with trying to control our natural, human needs. like eating, sex..... it's insane. they talked about some nuns that starved themselves to stave off gluttony. it was crazy!

[get the red out]

26. That is the best news all day!

I was so hoping he would re-enter the land of the living and be a real person.

I am so glad he choose a woman over the gargoyles of the Catholic Priesthood.

[malaise]

41. It's great news

I'm happy for them.

[Nikki Stone1]

38. And Father was a real cutie! :)

With apologies to Steven Colbert.

[Maccagirl]

43. Bravo, indeed

I wish him and his love all the best.