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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 02:18 PM
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supermarket orange juice: chenicals added, stored in vats for a year
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Ask an Academic: Orange Juice

Alissa Hamilton is a fellow with the Institute for Agriculture and Trade Policy and the author of “Squeezed: What You Don’t Know About Orange Juice,” which comes out this month from Yale University Press. An edited version of my conversation with her appears below.

In general, I am interested in how the food-processing industry is affecting the growing of major agricultural crops in the United States. It struck me that orange juice would be a perfect case study, because so many drink it, and the product is essentially processed oranges.

In your Introduction, you write that most orange-juice drinkers are “misinformed about what it is they are drinking.” Is it the “processed” part that most consumers are misinformed about?

That’s part of it. Most are surprised to hear, for instance, that the big brands, which market their product as “pure” and “simple,” add flavor packs to their juice to make it fresh. But people are also misinformed about the growing of juice oranges. A flight attendant once told me that he gets far more requests for orange juice on flights to Florida, because there’s still a strong association of oranges with the state. Yet most of the juice he’s serving now comes from Brazil, where there are fewer environmental regulations, and labor and land for growing oranges are cheaper.

Woah. Back up to the flavor packs. Why doesn’t orange juice taste fresh naturally, especially if it’s “not from concentrate”?

Flavor packs are fabricated from the chemicals that make up orange essence and oil. Flavor and fragrance houses, the same ones that make high end perfumes, break down orange essence and oils into their constituent chemicals and then reassemble the individual chemicals in configurations that resemble nothing found in nature. Ethyl butyrate is one of the chemicals found in high concentrations in the flavor packs added to orange juice sold in North American markets, because flavor engineers have discovered that it imparts a fragrance that Americans like, and associate with a freshly squeezed orange.

Freshly squeezed orange juice tastes fresh naturally, and some supermarkets do sell it. However, “from concentrate” and most “not from concentrate” orange juice undergo processes that strip the flavor from the juice. The largest producers of “not from concentrate” or pasteurized orange juice keep their juice in million-gallon aseptic storage tanks to ensure a year round supply. Aseptic storage involves stripping the juice of oxygen, a process known as “deaeration,” so the juice doesn’t oxidize in the “tank farms” in which the juice sits, sometimes for as long as a year.


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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 02:21 PM
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1. Please edit .
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dorkulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 02:27 PM
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5. I hate chenicals. /nt
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whistler162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 03:10 PM
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6. Better not use DHMO then
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dorkulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 07:33 PM
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7. It's a spelling joke. Never mind. /nt
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 02:23 PM
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2. *sigh*
everything is full of chemicals these days. :(
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 02:24 PM
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3. The best container for orange juice
is an orange : - )
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secondwind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 02:26 PM
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4. guess now is a good time to buy a juicer............ sigh
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 07:39 PM
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8. so the chemicals are listed as ingredients, right?
:think:
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 08:05 PM
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9. I was reading some juice label that was going on about its special fresh cherries
Edited on Fri May-22-09 08:05 PM by Hissyspit
that were harvested in a specific region for a short period each summer. Of course, I was reading and drinking this in November or December and nowhere in the magical superlative writing did it explain how that was possible. I wish I could remember the product.

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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 08:10 PM
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10. I heard her on CBC radio yesterday
Absolutely astounding how mere oranges are manipulated to produce those nice jugs of orange liquid that we call "orange juice".

I don't think I'll be buying any from now on.





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csziggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 08:34 PM
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11. That is the reality of orange juice - as a orange grove owner
First off, yes, most orange juice is from Brazil these days. The freeze line has moved south - oranges used to be grown as far north as Jacksonville in the early 1900s but hard freezes have damaged groves south of Lakeland in the last few decades. With development, much of the land that used to have orange groves are now covered with theme parks and subdivisions, especially around Orlando and in Southwest Florida.

I am not sure about the supposed "fresh orange juice" but the concentrated, frozen juice is a mixture of different varieties of oranges mixed to achieve the expected levels of sugars and tartness. Different varieties of juice oranges with the differing levels of sugar and acid mature at different times of the year so there is no way to get the same consistency of flavor without storing the juices and mixing them later.

The spread of the Mediterranean fruit fly and citrus greening (http://ipm.ifas.ufl.edu/agriculture/citrus/asian.shtml) along with lawsuits that have made the control of these pests and disease pretty much impossible will almost certainly mean the end of the Florida citrus industry in the next five to ten years. The problem is that the groves in Brazil are also seeing pests and disease so orange juice may become much more expensive and difficult to get really soon.

Citrus Growers in Florida, Brazil Ally to Fight Greening
http://www.theledger.com/article/20090509/NEWS/905105003

Fatal Greening Could Wipe Out Florida Fruit
http://www.theledger.com/article/20090509/NEWS/905105001

Bad Neighbors Impair Battle to Control Citrus Greening
http://www.theledger.com/article/20090509/NEWS/905105004
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Stuart G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 08:46 PM
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12. Well you won't believe this..but ...
I love plants..Something neat about em.. About 12 years ago, I picked a weed from my brothers house.
That weed is now a Maple Tree. My own home grown oxygen provider in my small back yard. About 12 feet tall. Would have been 25 or 30 but they have had to cut it back. It hits the electric lines.

Eight years ago, my next door neighbor gave me a 2 inch plastic pot with 4 tiny little stems...maybe an inch and half tall.

One stem is left, but it is now 7 feet tall, 52 inches across. It is an orange tree. Those little stems were seeds from a store bought orange. NO, never had a bloom. So no oranges yet
But I am the only one in Skokie Illinois/ near Chicago with a 7 foot orange tree in their kitchen. Am looking for some juice in...well a few years..but the thing will grow thru the ceiling to the second floor. ,, You won't believe it anyway. If I knew how to do it I would put a picture here.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 08:54 PM
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13. Curious, but store bought orange juice has always made me feel sick.
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emsimon33 Donating Member (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-23-09 04:09 PM
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14. One of my health newsletters recently published this--whew!
We really need some truth injected back into the marketing of food!
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