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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 01:03 AM
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Single-payer must be included in any attempt to "reform" healthcare in the U.S.
To not include single-payer is to pretend the disastrous melt-down of the banking industry didn't happen and how government intervention was the only possible solution for that industry's monumental failure.

Until the insurance industry can guarantee that they will never fail *cough, cough AIG cough, cough* single-payer must be considered now.

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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 01:10 AM
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1. Take the Insurance Pharmaceutical Complex off life support!
Single Payer Now
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 01:23 AM
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2. I'd like to hear the anti-small business crowd argue against single-payer.
I'd like to hear them say their industry would never need help from the government, ever.

I'd like to hear them say it under oath, on camera.

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Sunnyshine Donating Member (698 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 01:34 AM
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3. Me - too.
I would love to see that happen. Let's see them spit in the face of nearly 50 million people.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 03:25 AM
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4. Not, unfortunately, with this president.
Or this Congress.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 03:31 AM
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5. I can't believe that we are incapable of influencing them in any way.
How the hell were we able to raise money for them? How did we get organized enough to get the numbers out to vote for them?

Have we lost our voice already!?

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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 03:50 AM
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6. Unless all we were there for was to raise money for the candidate.
Purpose fulfilled. For now. It will be interesting to see what they plan to do to keep the left interested for the midterms. In fact, the House is definitely the place to keep up the pressure.

I don't need to be betrayed by Democrats. I feel a seething rage that Obama is interfering with the NY Senate election. And I ain't too thrilled with Schumer. The brass flaming balls of those bastards to force me to take What's-her-name. I don't know her. I didn't elect her. And I'll be damned if I'll hand her my vote as a gift.

NEW YORK IS NOT A ROTTEN BOROUGH!
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 04:00 AM
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7. This is why I thought appointing Kennedy wasn't as bad an idea as some thought it was.
She'd only be in office for two years and fundraising could be done for a more permanent candidate.

As it is, NY now has someone who will have to compete against a relatively "clean" GOP candidate to keep the office.

Now, it's a mess all the way around.

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emsimon33 Donating Member (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 03:11 PM
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10. Not just raise money but also to volunteer
The irony in the money count for Obama is that it does not take into consideration the zillions of hours volunteering, donations of gas for travel, meals out while volunteering, wear and tear on shoes from walking, donations of food and supplies to the various campaign offices and events, etc., etc., etc. that just ordinary people gave. If a price were out on that, we would have given far more to the Obama campaign than the big money special interest groups that he now kowtows to.

I get tired of people saying, Well, Obama never positioned himself as a progressive." I know that. But what I also know is that he made campaign promises that he is throwing under the bus.

I now fear that not only will we NOT have the option to buy into Medicare (which would solve a lot of Medicare's problems), but that Obama will nominate a moderate to replace Souter.

I find it distressing that rather than addressing the concerns and well being of those who worked to get him elected, Obama panders to the Republicans and DINOs.

It's not like I didn't have my suspicions, but I would rather be frustrated and angry with a Republican than a Democrat, even a Democrat that seems to favor Republicans over Democrats. Sigh!
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 07:19 AM
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8. K&R
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 09:49 AM
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9. If insurance companies are at the table, then single-payer should be also. nt
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emsimon33 Donating Member (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 03:14 PM
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11. I'm beginning to think that it would be better to have no reform
than reform that will take tax dollars and give them to the insurance companies so that we have another expensive debacle like the Medicare Prescription Drug Plan. If no reform gets passed, the situation will become so untenable that people will take to the streets and we will get single payer as that will be the only logical alternative.


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YewNork Donating Member (449 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 08:08 PM
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12. if they won't give us single payer then I want what Congress gets
If President Obama does not want to support single payer and he is insisting on involving the insurance industry in whatever plan is put forward to the
American public then fine, here's what he has to provide:

Give the public the same plan that covers all members of Congress and make sure that the public pays
no larger a percentage of their income than the percentage of income that a member of Congress pays
for that same coverage
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maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 08:58 PM
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13. K&R
May 30th is single payer action day, look for actions around you, or make them!! see my links below...
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 09:57 PM
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14. I agree.
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