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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-20-09 07:40 AM Original message |
Poll question: parental rights re medical care (Daniel Hauser case) |
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ChairmanAgnostic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-20-09 07:50 AM Response to Original message |
1. To those voting yes, If I may. . . |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-20-09 07:59 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. true as all that may be, I don't think it applies to the situation |
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The2ndWheel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-20-09 09:20 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. The problem of choice is that |
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Laelth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-20-09 09:23 AM Response to Original message |
4. This is a VERY tough question from a legal standpoint. |
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ChairmanAgnostic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-20-09 09:52 AM Response to Reply #4 |
9. you are correct as the child approaches adulthood |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-20-09 02:50 PM Response to Reply #9 |
39. So the state acts and takes the child away from his parents |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-20-09 02:57 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. At least they tried. |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-20-09 09:54 AM Response to Reply #4 |
10. This is a tough question from a legal standpoint, but it's not about freedom of religion. |
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ThomWV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-20-09 09:59 AM Response to Reply #4 |
14. I don't think that's true at all. All children are wards of the state, entrusted to their parents |
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Laelth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-20-09 10:08 AM Response to Reply #14 |
19. My understanding is different. |
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ChairmanAgnostic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-20-09 10:10 AM Response to Reply #19 |
20. not completely true. |
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Laelth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-20-09 10:13 AM Response to Reply #20 |
22. Due process rights can be violated in an emergency. |
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sinkingfeeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-20-09 09:43 AM Response to Original message |
5. In this case, I believe the 'child' has expressed his own desire to stop chemo. Just because he's |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-20-09 09:46 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. nope. it doesn't count from a legal standpoint. |
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ChairmanAgnostic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-20-09 10:03 AM Response to Reply #7 |
16. reading is the devil's tool. confuses the dear angels with facts, and all. |
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DiverDave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-20-09 09:45 AM Response to Original message |
6. My friends cousin had juvenile diabetes |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-20-09 09:47 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. tragic. I agree with you. The child in this case has a 90%+ chance |
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ChairmanAgnostic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-20-09 09:54 AM Response to Reply #6 |
11. and they blamed her for insufficient faith, the bastards. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-20-09 09:57 AM Response to Reply #11 |
12. it's a big issue. |
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ChairmanAgnostic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-20-09 09:58 AM Response to Reply #12 |
13. sigh. . . . See what 8 yrs of bush did to everyone? |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-20-09 10:11 AM Response to Reply #13 |
21. it is discouraging. As are the poll responses. |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-20-09 01:32 PM Response to Reply #13 |
37. Quite the reverse. We got 8 years of Bush because of this know-nothing mentality |
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ChairmanAgnostic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-20-09 02:46 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. good points. |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-20-09 03:09 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. I get that a lot. |
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ChairmanAgnostic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-20-09 03:35 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. :) |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-20-09 03:39 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. I get that a lot, too. |
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The2ndWheel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-20-09 10:02 AM Response to Original message |
15. Ultimately, will humans exist to serve the state? |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-20-09 10:07 AM Response to Reply #15 |
17. absurd. the position of the state in balancing protecting the interests of |
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The2ndWheel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-20-09 10:17 AM Response to Reply #17 |
23. And also inefficient |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-20-09 10:32 AM Response to Reply #23 |
24. I have no idea what you're trying to say. |
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ChairmanAgnostic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-20-09 10:08 AM Response to Reply #15 |
18. tell me you are joking. Please. |
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The2ndWheel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-20-09 10:33 AM Response to Reply #18 |
26. Why would I be joking? |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-20-09 10:37 AM Response to Reply #26 |
28. no, parenting will not become obsolete |
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The2ndWheel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-20-09 11:32 AM Response to Reply #28 |
33. Other than as a taxpayer, I can't think of one |
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ChairmanAgnostic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-20-09 11:55 AM Response to Reply #28 |
34. precisely what mandatory skuling is - govt input in the ejukashun of kids |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-20-09 10:32 AM Response to Original message |
25. It is murder to withold proven effective treatment for a fatal disease. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-20-09 10:33 AM Response to Reply #25 |
27. I don't think it's murder, but it is criminal neglect |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-20-09 11:23 AM Response to Reply #27 |
31. criminal neglect resulting in death: negligent homicide. nt. |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-20-09 10:40 AM Response to Original message |
29. It's NOT parental "rights" ... it's a parental DUTY to act as a guardian of the child's RIGHTS. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-20-09 11:28 AM Response to Reply #29 |
32. lose your patience at the legal framework because I framed |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-20-09 12:56 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. Horse shit. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-20-09 01:28 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. you may think the legal system re parental rights is bullshit |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-20-09 10:41 AM Response to Original message |
30. The Danieal Hauser case is cut and dried. |
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