big cheese minuteman on msnbc right now - he can't speak english.

[ourbluenation]

He said minutemen are made up of people from acrost america.

he's very series.

[redqueen]

1. hahahahahahahaha

Nice. :)

[helderheid]

2. Are we screwn?

[ourbluenation]

3. LOL! Yep - the minutmen group are hugh!

:rofl:

[AllieB]

5. Are you series??!!??

:o

[rurallib]

6. They even have seconds.

[EstimatedProphet]

12. It took me a bit, but LOL!

[Warpy]

4. If he wasn't a total fool

he wouldn't feel quite as threatened by Mexicans and would realize he's under attack by corporations who want the cheapest labor out there. He'd want the laws on the books enforced and every cheapass employer who throws Americans out of work so he can hire illegal Mexicans on the cheap fined into bankruptcy.

He's stupid and that's why he's a Minuteman.

[DCKit]

7. Reminds me of Jerry Springer

Every time I see these people on TV, inbred, ignorant and, generally, quite unattractive, it's a personal embarrassment. I grew up with rednecks in rural PA, but I guess the skools were better than.

[Igel]

8. That's how it's pronounced in many dialects of English.

Mine, for example. But I'm from that backward, hick state of Maryland, and obviously it's deep red. Right?

Or maybe we can diss Kerry's horrible mangling of words like "car". Surely nobody would pronounce it as "kah". Those whacky, non-English-speaking Bostonians.

Then there's the ignorant oaf, Jimmy Kah-tuh's pronunciation of good English words like "carter". Who could possibly think he could even graduate high school, much less have pretentions to college!

And those butt-pimples in New Jersey and thar arch-red state of New York, esp. the city itself. Crap, how can those people even *think* they speak English. Then there are, like, the up-talk folk in California, and the idiots in Oregon and Washington that confuse 'pin' and 'pen'.

Right? Or do we only enforce our intolerant, oh-so-old-fashioned and conservative judgments on those of different ideological persuasions?

Or perhaps your prescriptivist point is a bit off base? Now, while it *is* a social judgment that there is only one correct variety of English, we have the privilege of having a loosely defined standard (so Kerry and Carter have some latitude). The days of hard-core NBC English are past, I'm afraid, and the destruction of civilization as we know it is sure to follow the loss of such rigid dogma.

[ourbluenation]

11. Cah, instead of car, is an accent. Acrosst instead of across, is bad english, ESPECIALLY

from the big cheese minuteman who wants to make everyone from sea to shining sea speak english.

[slackmaster]

9. A lot of people in the midwest speak that way - Crackeronics

My grandfather was a very educated man, and that's how he pronounced it.

Making fun of how people speak is about as slippery a slope as you can hope to get on.

[ourbluenation]

13. but did your grandfather demand that everyone speak english in this country?

seems to me that people who do (like the big cheese minuteman), should speak it correctly, or people acrosst america will not take him seriously. :)

[slackmaster]

14. I don't see any logical connection between your comment and mine

Criticism of someone's appearance, wife, manner of speech, etc. carry no weight. If you want to talk about content, I may join the discussion.

[ourbluenation]

15. ok.

[salin]

10. stop throwing asparagus!

but seriously, I thought I just read that the whole organization was falling apart.

[Javaman]

16. I work with college educated professionals, but each and everyone of these

english illiterates pronounce across that way and height as "heigth".

I finally couldn't take it anymore and I have started pointing it out and each and everyone plays dumb, "I said that?" or "oh come on, I didn't say that!"

ignorance comes in many shades but willfully being ignorant only comes in one shade; stupid.

[Warpy]

17. My pop was an engineer and the son of a university professor

but he grew up in Indiana and my grandmother was educated through grammar school, only. He said "warsh the winders" up until his death last year.

It's not illiteracy, it's usually just a regional barbarism. All of us have one or another, and we all drive outsiders crazy with it.

People from the rural deep south will always insist they need to axe you a question. They can spell it correctly, but their upbringing and regional cultural identification cause them to screw up the pronunciation with amazing consistency. When I moved to Boston, the local dialect's insistence on dropping the "r" in the middle or end of a word and then tacking it on to any word that ended in a vowel was annoying beyond belief. Again, it wasn't illiteracy as most people could spell quite well; it was regional identification.

Stupid is as stupid does, but your bunch sound like they grew up in the same general area and everybody around them said "heighth. They're only stupid if they spell it that way.

And yes, they may not realize they're doing it. My pop never did.

[piedmont]

18. I agree with your post except for one minor detail

I think the "axe" vs. "ask" pronunciation cuts along racial lines more so than regional ones. I'm from the rural deep South and pronouncing ask as "axe" isn't something that white southerners generally do, but I have heard it many times from African-Americans.

[Warpy]

21. It cuts across urban vs. rural lines.

I've heard rural whites use it just as often as rural blacks.

[piedmont]

22. In the south? That's not my experience in AL, MS, and GA. nt

[Jonathan50]

20. I'm from and still live in the deep south..

I barely graduated from high school.

And yet when we go to see my wife's family in NYC they invariably tell me "you don't *sound* southern".

I can put on and take off the southern accent at will y'all.

On edit: But I can't always spell :)

[treestar]

19. Seriesly, what is it with these people?

Why are they so bothered by uneducated poor people? They are living a middle class life, and it bothers them some poor guy is laboring in the fields.

What's it to him if they'll legal or not? Call the INS.

Or if they speak English or not?