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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 09:49 AM
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Understanding Mitt Romney - Understand the White Horse Prophecy
http://www.utlm.org/onlineresources/whitehorseprophecy.htm


This popular prophecy of Smith's is explained in the Encyclopedia of Mormonism:

LDS attachment to the Constitution has been further encouraged by an important oral tradition deriving from a statement attributed to Joseph Smith, according to which the Constitution would "hang by a thread" and be rescued, if at all, only with the help of the Saints. Church President John Taylor seemed to go further when he prophesied, "When the people shall have torn to shreds the Constitution of the United States the Elders of Israel will be found holding it up to the nations of the earth and proclaiming liberty and equal rights to all men" (JD 21:8). To defend the principles of the Constitution under circumstances where the "iniquity," or moral decay, of the people has torn it to shreds might well require wisdom at least equal to that of the men raised up to found it. In particular, it would require great insight into the relationship between freedom and virtue in a political embodiment of moral agency. (Encyclopedia of Mormonism, Vol.1, 1992)


http://www.utlm.org/onlineresources/whitehorseprophecy.htm
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 09:56 AM
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1. At the lower level (i.e. the average church goer)
The Mormons represent the best of America.

they work hard, raise their children with a sense of decent values,
look after each other, and try to be a force for good.

But they are asked to tithe ten per cent of their income, to an organization (The Mormon Church) that does nothing but buy up scads of real estate, and influence political decisions through media purchase.

Maybe someday the "average" Mormon will install a love of democracy, but Smith's teachings are currently quite besmirched by the fact that his organization's money is used in phone campaigns to bash gays (by promoting political campaigns that do that)
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 10:09 AM
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4. Many of the Democrats in Utah are that average Church goer you refer to -
the Church itself is something else.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 09:59 AM
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2. Behold a Pale Horse
Edited on Tue Apr-03-07 10:00 AM by SpiralHawk
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 10:03 AM
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3. I never heard of this before, missed the Hatch incident in 1999.

This is from an article in the Salt Lake Tribune, referring to Hatch's interview on a Mormon radio station after announcing his presidential run in 1999:



According to the so-called "White Horse Prophecy," the U.S. Constitution will be hanging by a thread and a church elder from Zion will ride in on a metaphorical white horse and save it.

Utah's senior senator . . . complained that Democrats' political correctness will be the ruin of the country.

"They tolerate everything that's bad, and they're intolerant of everything that's good. Religious freedom is going to go down the drain, too," Hatch said. "I've never seen it worse than this, where the Constitution literally is hanging by a thread."

. . . Wright , also a Mormon said Hatch clearly was "talking to his folks" in the church audience and his use of the phrase was the buzz of the station afterward.

"It just caught me by surprise. It was worded carefully," Wright said Wednesday. "I'm not sure he saw himself as the one who would fulfill the prophecy, but I thought it walked a fine line. It's such a well-recognized phrase.". . .
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 10:11 AM
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5. There is a BYU professor that talks about 9/11 being an inside job that says the
Constitution is hanging by a thread - it was my father who is an ex-mormon who explained what he was referring to.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 10:13 AM
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6. Sorry Mittens,
the right wing, wackos "know" the Mormons are trying to "buy" you the presidency..

Nice face, nice teeth, nice wife and all that, but they will NEVER support you.. You might as well be a rapper from Bed-Stuy.:)
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 10:15 AM
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7. Romney's never going to be the nominee
And if he were the Mormon Church is not a strong enough base to swing him into the white house even if we all became convinced he was the fulfilling of this prophecy.

This weeks Doonesbury cartoons have been right on as far as Romney is concerned.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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ToeBot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 11:55 AM
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8. I've endured the recitation of this drivel for about as long as I can remember...
Edited on Tue Apr-03-07 11:56 AM by ToeBot
"Brother So 'n' So is serving in Washington to be the savior of the Constitution." Next election it's some other 'saint' destined to be the lone thread, preventing the country from falling into anarchy. Blah, blah blah. They all had one thing in common though, they were Always Republicans.
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