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LiberalHeart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 03:19 AM
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Fake letter led to war (Niger yellow cake) ... go read WaPo
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 03:25 AM
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1. "Page A01"
That's nice to see...took long enough...
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 03:29 AM
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2. Pinning the failure on the CIA.
I only read the 1st page, but I sense this is another attempt to pin this on the CIA. Why don't they ask who might have had a hand in fabricating the letter? It was fake, but why was it manufactured?
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LiberalHeart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 03:32 AM
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3. The speculation re that is on the final page in the last paragraph....
Manufactured so it could be sold; just a money maker. Ha.
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 04:58 AM
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4. No... much like Watergate, this started with a break-in
of the Niger embassy in Italy. All that was stolen was stationary.

Now ask why Cheney had his minions and his allies in the press did the hatchet job on the Wilsons...

What difference would it make if Amb Wilson came back and wrote an op-ed piece that basically says the same thing as this article here... that the documents linking Saddam to Niger and uranium ore was a fake. After all, Bush could always blame the British because he said "recently, the British Government has learned...". So why start the hatchet job on Joe Wilson and his wife... and then the foolish cover up of that hatchet job???

Could it be that the OSP and the white house orchestrated the entire event? Because Bush wanted to blame Saddam for 9/11 and start a war... a war that was decided on long before 9/11. The OSP and the White House either broke in to the Niger embassy or had someone do it... forged the fake documents and give them to some western intelligence service (British, CIA, Italian, whoever). That's my theory. That's why they couldn't let Wilson's Op-ed on the subject go unchallenged... because someone might start investigating the forgeries and the break-in. And it might lead back to the OSP and the White House. And IF the OSP was responsible for creating fake documents that got us into a war... what else might they have done leading up to and including 9/11???

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youngdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 05:28 AM
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5. RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT.
Yeah, there is a huge market for SPECULATIVE forgeries, those made from documents obtained through extremely risky robberies of foreign embassies. Yep. Hundreds of men around the world are constantly forging incriminating documents for no other reason but profit. The salesman (who was also selling Rolexes at the Campidoglio) just happened to run into and solicit Dick Cheney.


Psst....you need a watch?

No. Got any Niger yellowcake forgeries indicating a PNAC target country?

As a matter of fact, I DO!

Sweet. Thanks.

Hey Dick, the letterhead doesn't match the current administration. Will be easy to disprove eventually.

Doesn't matter. By the time the media figures out it's fake, we will be four years into the war.

Oh, ok then. $100.

Thanks. Hey, you got anything from Syria or Iran?
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 05:44 AM
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6. Laura Rozen and Josh Marshall wrote about this *years* ago
and the Post is just getting around to writing about this? Is still writing about it as "intelligence failures"? Call me unimpressed.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 06:18 AM
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7. so someone at the Post is just getting around to reading La Repubblica?
....

http://crookedtimber.org/2005/10/25/la-repubblica-scoop
It’s a fact that on the eve of the Iraq war, and under the supervision of the diplomatic advisor to the Foreign Ministry, Gianni Castellaneta (today ambassador to the USA), the director of SISMI organized his agenda in Washington with the staff of Condoleeza Rice, who was National Security Adviser to the White House at that time. La Repubblica is able to document this two track process between the government and Italian intelligence. At least one of these ‘barely official’ meetings of Pollari’s was, according to secret service agents, the ‘creation of a system’ that would bring together government, intelligence and public affairs .

To summarize: Nicolo Pollari’s SISMI wanted to substantiate the the Iraqi acquisition of raw uranium to build a nuclear bomb. The game-plan was rather transparent. ‘Authentic’ documents relating to an attempted acquisition in Niger (old Italian intelligence from the 1980’s) were the dowry of the second-in-command of CISMI’s Roman headquarters (Antonio Nucera). They were bundled together with another fabricated document … through a simulated burglary on the Nigerien embassy (from which they had gotten headed notepaper and seals). The documents were shown by Pollari’s men to CIA station agents, and at the same time, a SISMI ‘postman’ by the name of Rocco Martino was sent to Sir Richard Dearlove of MI6 in London.

turning to the second chapter of the Great Swindle, organized in Italy, to build the case that military intervention in Iraq was necessary. … the Italian report on uranium …

… The CIA analysts thought the first report ‘very limited’ and ‘without the necessary details.’ INR analysts in the Department of State assessed the information as ‘highly suspect.’ … The immediate impact on the American Intelligence community wasn’t very gratifying for Pollari … Gianni Castellaneta advised him to look in ‘other directions’ too, while the minister of Defence, Antonio Martino invited him to meet ‘an old friend of Italy’s.’ The American friend was Michael Ledeen, an old fox in the ‘parallel’ intelligence community in the US, who had been declared an undesirable person in our country in the 1980’s . Ledeen was at Rome on behalf of the Office of Special Plans, created at the Pentagon by Paul Wolfowiz to gather intelligence that would support military intervention in Iraq. A source at Forte Braschi told La Repubblica : “Pollari got a frosty reception from the CIA’s station head in Rome, Jeff Castelli, for this information on uranium. Castelli apparently let the matter drop . Pollari got the hint and talked about it with Michael Ledeen.’ We don’t know what Michael Ledeen did in Washington. But at the beginning of 2002, Paul Wolfowitz convinced Dick Cheney that the uranium trail intercepted by the Italians had to be explored top to bottom. The vice-president, as the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence tells it, once again asked the CIA ‘very decisively’ to find out more about the ‘possible acquisition of Nigerien uranium.’ In this meeting, Dick Cheney explicitly said that this piece of intelligence was at the disposition of a “foreign service.”

… Forte Braschi says that “Pollari was incredibly cunning – he knew that it wasn’t enough to rely on the CIA to push the uranium story. It was necessary to work, as Palazzo Chigi and the Department of Defence had indicated, with the Pentagon and with the National Security Adviser, Rice. … An administration official has told La Repubblica “I can confirm that on September 9 2002, General Nicolo Pollari met Stephen Hadley, the deputy to the National Security Adviser, Condoleeza Rice.”… SISMI’s ‘postman,’ Rocco Martino contacted a journalist for a weekly newspaper – edited by Carlo Rossella – to sell her the documents at issue. … Panorama had a worldwide scoop. Title “The War? It’s already begun,’ it spoke of ‘half a ton of uranium.’ … The government asked. The intelligence service gave. The media spread it. The government confirmed it. It was an old disinformation technique from the Cold War. Exaggerate the danger of the threat. Terrify and convince public opinion of it.

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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 06:21 AM
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8. I haven't read the article yet, has the name Ledeen come up?
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 06:42 AM
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9. Always beware when it's WaPo. Worst of the lot. Bad as AP.
Lies. Deceit. Disinformation. And some very clever, twisty disinformation. Mainly to the purpose of protecting the war machine. So, don't swallow their acting all virtuous and "exposing" the war lies. PRESUME that they have an ulterior motive in publishing this story at this particular time.

Here's my surmise about what's going on:

Rumsfeld is in deep. That's why he's gone, without change of policy in Iraq. (It was timed to seem like it was the Bush Junta being responsive to the voters, but once you laugh that one down, you gotta figure something's up. What is it?)

Rumsfeld would be the Bushite with the most operational interest in the CIA network that was monitoring WMDs in the Middle East (Brewster-Jennings--Plame's network). He created his own intel operation--the Official of Special Plans (OSP)--to get around the honest professionals at the CIA, but probably not just to "cherry-pick" and "stove-pipe" evidence (to invent a case for WMDs in Iraq)--it was likely also a black ops group. How to get dirty deeds done that the CIA considered unethical, or stupid?

The Niger docs (which I believe have been proven to be pre-existing--some sting Italian intel was involved in--but with an additional fake covering document placed with them, an "accord" between Iraq and Niger) were probably pulled out of obscurity and the "accord" added as the result of a meeting in Rome in late 2001 attended by the head of Italian intelligence (SISMI), the notorious Iran/Contra arms dealer, Manucher Ghorbanifar, and a number of rabid NeoCons who were on the Pentagon payroll, among them Michael Ladeen.

But these docs raise certain questions: Why couldn't they concoct better forgeries? The docs were so crude, they got the names and dates wrong. The CIA and others easily established that they were fakes (once they got their hands on the actual docs, shortly before the invasion). Also, why was there such insistence on Bush explicitly making this easily disprovable allegation? The CIA took it out of one speech as too questionable. The WH put it BACK INTO Bush State of the Union. One of Joe Wilson's concerns was that it made the US look foolish and deceitful. It was the most foolish and insupportable of their claims--and Bush later had to eat his words. How this kind of thing would normally be handled is by hedging it round a bit--having Cheney and Rice do their "mushroom cloud" thing--all suggestive and scary--but preserve more deniability for the President. Just fudge it a bit. But no. It was a positive assertion, with no hedging. No subtlety.

Could be they are just stupid and inept. Always a possibility with this gang. But I think there is a better explanation, and it is that they were intending to make the allegation come true--to plant the nukes in Iraq, to be "found" by the US troops who were "hunting" for them after the invasion.

Now it all makes sense. Bush making the official and explicit allegation was Part One. Part Two was to make it come true.

And why didn't they create better forgeries? Because they WANTED the CIA to debunk them, and to take a known position of "no nukes in Iraq," so that, when the planted nukes were "found," the CIA would be forever discredited, and would become more easily purge-able.

But someone foiled Part Two of their diabolical scheme. No WMDs were found (or "found").

It was the particular purpose of the Brewster-Jennings network to monitor WMDs, to keep them out of the wrong hands, and to obstruct and prevent the illicit procurement and movement of dangerous weapons in the Middle East. This was a network of deep cover CIA agents/contacts in foreign countries, probably some in their countries' weapons development programs. They would have been in the best position to notice something--missing materials and parts, missing weapons, colleagues of theirs in league with thieves and weapons dealers. Others might be in positions to watch the military, and within chaotic, post-invasion Iraq, to watch both the US military and others. They might have detected and stopped a Pentagon operation not even knowing who was really behind it. IF this was the Rumsfeld plan, he was probably using many layers of shady go-betweens, and of course he had Abu Ghraib where he could 'disappear' anybody--his own ops, or the CIAs--in the general mayhem, if it became necessary to snuff out witnesses, or to torture people to find out who knew what. (And the outing of BJ network, of course, may well have made it easier to identify local counter-proliferation agents/contacts.)

The outing of Plame--and especially the SECOND outing, of the BJ network (not as well publicized)--has always had a smell of panic about it, in my opinion. It was a very risky thing to do--and it was done in a hasty and awkward way, maximizing the exposure of top Bushites. Their plan had gone all awry. It had failed. And what their actions wreak of is fear of exposure (which may be where the David Kelly story intersects with the Plamegate story--he was the Brits' top WMD expert who was found dead, under highly suspicious circumstances, four days after Plame was outed; his office and computers were searched, and, four days after that, the entire BJ network was additionally outed, by Novak also naming her front company in his newspaper column). The outing of Plame/B-J seems like an excessive overreaction to an op-ed by an ex-diplomat--especially given that the Bush Junta had such control over the newsstream back in 2003. Why not just let it die? No, they had to kill it with a hundred bloody knives, and that many "smoking guns" with their fingerprints all over them. It points to great fear of exposure of something more than mere words--a dissenting article.

This is one theory that could explain why Rumsfeld is out. He was in charge of the dirtiest operations in Iraq and the Middle East. This particular scenario suits him and the Bush Junta very well. And maybe it was discovered and exposed, by insiders--in the military or the intelligence agencies, or by Patrick Fitzgerald--and is now known in certain circles. Possibly something is about to come out, about it. Rumsfeld had to go. Cheney, Rove and Libby were handling the POLITICAL end of this plot--getting the Niger allegation into Bush's SOTU speech, etc.--and, later, dealing with both political and legal fallout. But Rumsfeld was the mastermind. His hands are dirtiest. And perhaps he is something of a fall guy/scapegoat. They can blame it Rumsfeld.

There are a lot of other reasons why Rumsfeld might be gone. 9/11 comes to mind. But this speculation as to the behind-the-scenes of Plamegate is particularly resonant, especially with Libby getting convicted of perjury and obstruction, Rove barely escaping the same, and the Fitzgerald investigation aimed right at Cheney. What would Cheney do to get himself out of deep legal trouble (in fact, treason)? Throw Rumsfeld under the bus.

As for WaPo--if this is what has happened (or something comparable)--then, a) they need to seem like they are out in front of it, and b) since it is their mission to protect the war profiteers--to shape the story as a rogue operation, and not as the rotten stinking heart of the cesspool known as the US "military-industrial complex"





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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 07:21 AM
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11. When the WMD was off-loaded in Kuwait the folks over there told the press and the
planting of the WMD was aborted.

It was reported in the world media - just not in the US media - perhaps because it was a "he says" story that you were not going to get the US Military to verify to you. You need permission from the rich and corporate and their military to publish something like that.

Which brings us to taxes - tell me again why the Rich and Corporate do not pay 100% of the cost of the US military via taxes?
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 07:24 AM
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12. No, no, no...WaPo is a bastion of crazy liberals, remember?
The republics keep telling us so. Isn't odd who they think EVERYBODY whos even criticizes Bush's tie is a crazy liberal? Even CNN...they hate CNN, craziest of the crazy.

Funny thing is though, we think they're crazy right-wing nut-bag microphones for BushCo.

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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 07:13 AM
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10. Here is an excellent article on the forging of the papers
From American Conservative Magazine of all places.


http://www.amconmag.com/2005/2005_11_07/feature.html

November 21, 2005 Issue
Copyright © 2005 The American Conservative

Forging the Case for War

Who was behind the Niger uranium documents?

by Philip Giraldi

From the beginning, there has been little doubt in the intelligence community that the outing of CIA officer Valerie Plame was part of a bigger story. That she was exposed in an attempt to discredit her husband, former ambassador Joseph Wilson, is clear, but the drive to demonize Wilson cannot reasonably be attributed only to revenge. Rather, her identification likely grew out of an attempt to cover up the forging of documents alleging that Iraq attempted to buy yellowcake uranium from Niger.

What took place and why will not be known with any certainty until the details of the Fitzgerald investigation are revealed. (As we go to press, Fitzgerald has made no public statement.) But recent revelations in the Italian press, most notably in the pages of La Repubblica, along with information already on the public record, suggest a plausible scenario for the evolution of Plamegate.

Information developed by Italian investigators indicates that the documents were produced in Italy with the connivance of the Italian intelligence service. It also reveals that the introduction of the documents into the American intelligence stream was facilitated by Undersecretary of Defense Doug Feith’s Office of Special Plans (OSP), a parallel intelligence center set up in the Pentagon to develop alternative sources of information in support of war against Iraq.

Continued at above link
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 08:10 AM
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13. Odd that WaPo decides to write this up now. I think I'll check out
Josh Marshall and Linda Rozen's site to see what they think about this article.

Thanks for posting.
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-03-07 08:16 AM
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14. The author has a book coming out today...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/02/AR2007040201470.html

About This Story

Tuesday, April 3, 2007; Page A16

This article was adapted from the book "The Italian Letter: How the Bush Administration Used a Fake Letter to Build the Case for War in Iraq," by Peter Eisner and Knut Royce, to be published today by Rodale Press.
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