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ensho (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 11:25 AM Original message |
Indiana Criminalizes Dissent |
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Proud Liberal Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 12:00 PM Response to Original message |
1. In a word........Yes!!! |
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bluebellbaby (275 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 12:02 PM Response to Original message |
2. Ain't it just wonderful...Hay...we should then prosecute those Political Groups Too |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 05:02 PM Response to Reply #2 |
32. I agree. |
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Metta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 12:03 PM Response to Original message |
3. Signs of increasing totalitarianism. Sorry to hear it. Means more work for the ACLU. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 12:07 PM Response to Original message |
4. They aren't being charged for protesting. The four misdemeanors are: |
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bluebellbaby (275 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 12:18 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Please be careful how you use the word "Terrorist" |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 12:45 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. A term that can be used against anyone who commits a crime while protesting |
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bluebellbaby (275 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 12:57 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. That's the point I think of the original post., they were charged under |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 01:11 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. And "post" can also mean a stick in the ground, and "charge" |
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bluebellbaby (275 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 01:44 PM Response to Reply #10 |
23. Stealing office furniture is the same as intimidation??? |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 03:30 PM Response to Reply #23 |
28. "where or when did they threaten these people?" |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 01:07 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. I said "terrorize," not "terrorist." |
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tuckessee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 01:04 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. I thought RICO was for going after the mafia leaders... |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 01:12 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. The RICO charge may not be wholly appropriate, but |
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Telly Savalas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 10:44 PM Response to Reply #11 |
39. First they came for the people who stole the office furniture... |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 01:20 PM Response to Reply #4 |
15. I guess you don't remember the days of sit-in protests of the |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 01:22 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. You think breaking windows is "an expression of freedom of speech?" |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 01:25 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. It used to be. |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 01:28 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. So threats now are acceptable forms of protest? |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 02:13 PM Response to Reply #20 |
25. If you don't like the people being threatened, I guess it's okay! (nt) |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 01:31 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. Breaking windows has never been protected speech. |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 02:20 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. Back in the 60s when protests got physical, windows got broken. Cars got |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 03:25 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. Yes. And that was not considered "free speech" then, either. |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 03:56 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. Protesting was considered free speech back then. I was there. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 11:29 AM Response to Reply #30 |
43. Yes. And if you stole things and broke things in the '60s, you would go to jail, same as now, |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 01:33 PM Response to Reply #43 |
53. Okay you finally made some sense. |
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intheflow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 05:08 PM Response to Reply #19 |
33. This is the same argument anti-choice activists put forward |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 05:37 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Those threats are not the same as racketeering. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 11:38 AM Response to Reply #34 |
45. "However, they are extreme idealists not criminals." Is theft not a crime? |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 01:34 PM Response to Reply #45 |
54. Theft is a crime that can be prosecuted without doing it under RICO. n/t |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 04:57 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. On an individual case, of course. However, they were stupid enough |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 03:57 PM Response to Reply #4 |
31. Why Did I Know There Would Be More To This Story? |
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JoseGaspar (391 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 05:20 AM Response to Reply #4 |
41. You simply are not trying hard enough, Mr. Bandage. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 11:27 AM Response to Reply #41 |
42. Crimes against property and intimidation are not murder, no. They are still crimes. nt |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 01:16 PM Response to Original message |
12. Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia had |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 01:20 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. I think most countries have laws where |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 01:23 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. Sorry, it's not racketeering. It may be vandalism and breaking and entering, |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 01:25 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. It might not be, and it might be. |
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bluebellbaby (275 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 01:57 PM Response to Reply #18 |
24. Organized Conspiracy??? Wow... |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 03:31 PM Response to Reply #24 |
29. Violence, threats, vandalism, and theft are not "protesting." They are criminal, |
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bluebellbaby (275 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 06:35 PM Response to Reply #29 |
35. All I can say is that under your definitions....George Washington Was a Terrorist then! |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 08:28 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. And? Washington isn't sacrosanct |
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bluebellbaby (275 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 09:22 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. We're talking about Freedom And Now the Widely Accepted Contortions |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 11:35 AM Response to Reply #35 |
44. No. I didn't claim these people were terrorists. |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 01:16 PM Response to Original message |
13. This article is full of more holes than swiss cheese. |
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Lethe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 01:29 PM Response to Original message |
21. is it too late to give Indiana back to Mexico? |
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DefenseLawyer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 08:41 PM Response to Original message |
37. Indiana allows charges to be filed by a prosecutor by Information |
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DCKit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 03:54 AM Response to Original message |
40. A "...Pike County Prosecutor Darrin McDonald and a state police officer..." |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 11:51 AM Response to Reply #40 |
46. I think the "totally over-the-top drama queens" in this case |
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Usrename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 12:43 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. I don't really understand the whole 'theft' thing. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 12:48 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. Hugh Farrell, a checkbook, Ronnie Wilson. |
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Usrename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 01:11 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. I don't see any explanation of that at all. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 01:30 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. Suppose the checkbook was in a drawer of a desk that he took outside. |
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Usrename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-04-09 06:39 AM Response to Reply #52 |
57. What makes you think anybody took anything anywhere? |
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Dogtown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-04-09 08:18 AM Response to Reply #52 |
59. Asportation |
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DCKit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 12:46 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. I didn't see any of that in the OP... |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 12:49 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. That's because you have to dig deep into the linked story |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 01:39 PM Response to Original message |
55. The ACLU is going to be all over this like flys on shit. |
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Hubert Flottz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-04-09 07:29 AM Response to Original message |
58. I wonder when they will arrive at the resettlement camp for |
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