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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 09:58 PM
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To help KO out: The Nazi's did attack the US homeland
Their subs clearly attacked the US in the US coastal waters or to Condi Rice does the US territorial waters not count?

http://www.americainwwii.com/stories/sharks.htm
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 10:05 PM
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1. Condi has a very narrow field of expertise, mostly having to do with Russia and oil.
She doesn't know shit and should have never risen to the position that she did.

We were in mortal danger with her in those two roles for eight years.

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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 10:13 PM
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5. Not even Russia
but the former Soviet Union- Not just narrow- obsolete!
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 10:20 PM
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7. Exactly right.
That's what I meant, and of course that makes it even worse.

We are lucky to have survived.

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knitter4democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 05:19 PM
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15. And her Russian is just plain awful.
I heard her once when she was visiting Putin before the translator kicked in, and it was the worst I've heard outside of my Russian I class.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 10:14 PM
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6. She was a PETERETTE....Put in a position above her pay grade..
The Lying bitch is now trying to weasel her way outta the torture thingy with empty words...
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 10:09 PM
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2. There's A Lot Of Info Out There
“Within the 4 years of WWII, Nazi subs sank 4 Allied vessels off the coast on Montauk.”

http://www.lighthouseratings.com/Montauk/


Operation Drumbeat: Nazi U-boats Off the American Coast, 1942

“Drumbeat, at least in theory, had been planned as far back as 1897. Germany had always been fascinated with attacking America, a land insulated and buffered by two oceans. There was a desire to “break” this immunity. Thus, in 1897, when Hitler was a mere boy of eight years, the German military planners first proposed a mostly naval operation against the East Coast of the U.S. Planning continued and by 1898, a more detailed vision had been constructed that focused on a naval bombardment and landing troops on Long Island along the Chesapeke Bay.

Captain Adolf Golzen, a German military attaché in Washington D.C., had seen such plans and was so taken by the discussions or writings in 1899, wrote his own detailed and serious plan. In his plan, which he presented, made New York city the primary target for a large naval blockade. One naval task force would blockade the harbors at the east end of Long Island as another large task force would enter New York Bay. The German armada entering would bombard FortHamilton and FortTompkins. Other ships would bombard Manhatten. Once completed, several infantry battalions and one engineer battalion would invade Long Island to establish a bridgehead to America. These units would subsequently attack across into the Manhatten area.

Beginning in 1917, the concept of attacking America with aircraft and airships seemed to take over the concept of using ships. The concept would require the use large bi-planes to reach the eastern U.S. seaboard. The idea went into remission in 1919 when Germany lost WW1. However, the idea remained and simmered on the back burner of high ranking minds until 1929, when a report by Major Wilberg, an Army Weapons Officer, mapped out a secret requirements document for bomb carriers. This remained secret until 1933. It then resurfaced with the rise of Hitler and taken quite seriously. The requirement was to have a four engine aircraft, with a crew of eight, armed with two 20mm cannon and five MGs. Its operational height was 6000 m and a top speed of 300 km per hour. Its range would be 2000 km. Other long range aircraft were also in various planning stages, but as Hitler rose to power, the Reich Air Ministry was more interested in the Bf 109 and Bf 110 fighter. One such long ranger bomber was the Do 19, which first flew in 1936.

In 1936, the Reich Air Ministry requested a long range bomber capable of flying 5000 km with a 500 kg bombload (the east coast of America is 6500 km from Europe). Eventually, Heikel produced the He 177. Competition was keen and Focke-Wulf present its FW 200, and in August, 1938, one flew non-stop from Berlin to New York! Then, in 1937, Hitler met with Willy Messerschmitt where he presented to Hitler’s surprise, the Messerschmitt long range bomber program. He had already worked up specifications for the Me 261, an aircraft that could fly 6700 km and 5000m and one ton bombload.

As 1940 turned in 1941, Hitler became more adamant in his desire to bomb to ashes New York City in order to teach the Jews a lesson on terror. The aircraft designs were valid and plentiful,” cont…

http://hubpages.com/hub/Operation-Drumbeat-Nazi-U-boats-Off-the-American-Coast--1942
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 10:12 PM
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3. just pulling shit out her ass when out brained by a 19 yr old
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OmahaBlueDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 10:12 PM
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4. They also sent a few "rubber boat" missions ashore from U-boats
These were saboteurs. Most were caught quickly.

"The Germans did not limit their attempts to obtain information from the United States to the establishment of espionage nets on the periphery. Throughout the war attempts were made to establish agents within the United States itself. Speaking generally, it can be reported that these efforts failed. In most cases the agents were either apprehended before they could commence activities, or their operations were sufficiently well controlled to neutralize them. The reasons for their failure ranged all the way from carelessness–as in the case of Werner Janowski, an agent landed on the coast of Canada early in November <9 Nov.> 1942, who was caught within a few hours through his stupidity in throwing away a box of Belgian matches in a hotel room and otherwise arousing the suspicions of civilians–to voluntary surrender on the part of the agent. Two of the eight saboteurs who landed in June 1942 gave themselves up to the Federal Bureau of Investigation and thus precipitated the arrest of the others. ."

http://www.history.navy.mil/faqs/faq114-1.htm
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 10:22 PM
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8. I lived in an apartment in Brooklyn that was used by Nazi spies
When the apartment was being renovated, they found wires embedded in the wooden floor. I was told this was how they set up their radio antennas, so they could send messages to the subs outside NY Harbor.
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 12:38 AM
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9. They've been attacking from within for the last 8 years
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Prescott Bush was a nazi supporter before, during and after ww2

The Bush family hasn't changed it's stripes.

USA had Nazis at the helm for 8 years.

It'll be decades before the public realizes it, if ever.

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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 12:54 AM
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10. The public will know as soon as the media tells them. Oh, wait...
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 04:45 PM
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12. LOL - yeah right - oh , and rest assured that it won't be in the "history" books
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.
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Reading USA history is like reading a fairy tale - they just let their citizens know what they WANT them to know.

Problem - internets, bloggers

NOW

the whole world is talking to each other.

USA is caught with it's pants down, and its fingers in 100's of cookie jars around the globe.

Time's up

fix it real quick or perish

sorry, the bullets and bomb thing ain't working for ya -

try being nice to the World, ya might just survive,

but not as the Empire some of ya seek ..

think about just surviving

and try and make a friend or two that doesn't require threats, bribes, or coercion

just try!

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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 05:02 PM
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13. Longer than that, I'm afraid.
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Psychic Consortium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 06:20 AM
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11. At this time she is scared. And protecting herself in any way she can.
It will not work.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 05:06 PM
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14. Oh Condi your BFFF's family has been attacking the U.S. ever since
Edited on Fri May-01-09 05:06 PM by seemslikeadream
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