Hey, Cheney: Torture has not prevented a single attack on America. How do I know this?

[Richardo]

My response to Cheney, in this forum, in December freakin' 2007:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=2468176

Richardo (1000+ posts) Fri Dec-14-07 09:27 AM

Torture has not prevented a single attack on America. How do I know this?

Because if it had, the Administration and their media toolbox would have shouted it from the rooftops the MINUTE they got the information.

Forget all the generic "Torture has prevented attacks" claims from the White House, the CIA and Pentagon. I call 'Bullshit'. If torture had foiled ONE bona-fide plan to attack American targets, this Administration would have been all OVER the news trumpeting the success that very day. The RW scream machine would have gone into high gear. Rush, Hannity and O'Reilly would have come all over themselves.

Look at the hype surrounding the Miami goofballs, the JFK airport pizza delivery man 'plot', and that poor stupid bastard Jose Padilla. If the Bush gang thinks they have something on you, FOX, Blitzer and the rest of the stenographers in the media will have in it every American living room by dinner time.

Torture has not prevented one attack. Bank it.

Answer THAT, psycho.

[tekisui]

1. Bush would have been out there with a banner and a bullhorn.

'Torture Saves!'

You are right.

[Richardo]

5. Thanks

(kick) :)

[Puzzler]

11. You're right.!

.

[mix]

2. +1

[Canuckistanian]

3. They're ALL about politics and power, they don't care about security

That's why they outed a CIA operative, then declassified documents to try and cover it up.

They wouldn't have allowed a silly thing like secret intelligence to get in the way of political glory.

[Richardo]

4. Right

Politics uber alles.

[Echo In Light]

8. Exactly. The phony "war on terror" is a very real war OF terror

Per the PNAC blueprint they needed to shake up the hornets nest to ensure justification for the illusory "retaliatory" actions that are actually illegal, naked aggression.

[cascadiance]

6. They'll bet desperate and say, "But look, it works on 24!"

and Janeane Garafalo's on that show too!

[spanone]

7. the results do not matter....as a fact torture is ILLEGAL...got that dick, ILLEGAL

[sinkingfeeling]

9. Absolutely. Didn't they even try to claim the USA was responsible for preventing the 'liquid' bomb

attacks on transAtlantic flights in 2006?

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/08/10/us.security/index.html

[elmerdem]

10. Pakistan

WTF? Has anybody noticed what is going on in Pakistan? It is growing continually less & less stable. Pakistan has nuclear weapons. Bush & Dick propped up fucking Musharaff & thus allowed Pakistan to become more of a threat. The Swat Valley is under Taliban rule. Fuck torture, fuck the debate over torture. Prosecute individuals who broke the law, but don't for a second believe that Dick Fucking Cheney helped in anyway to make us more safe. Look where Iran is now, look where North Korea is now, if one reporter had the fucking balls to ask Dick about any of these escalating situations, I would piss all over myself. There is a special place in hell for Dick Cheney!

[EFerrari]

12. Maybe he's saying that there are Democrats's names

on some of these memos -- because he knows as we do that Abu Zubayda SHUT UP when they started torturing him. Names of Democrats that were briefed? Rockefeller, Feinstein, Pelosi?

[moondust]

13. Correct. Same goes for WMD evidence.

If they had had any they would have pounded it into us just to get the public on board and silence a lot of dissent.

[frylock]

14. word up