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unapatriciated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 08:10 AM
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George Will Views 95% of Americans as "Unsuccessful"
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George Will Views 95% of Americans as "Unsuccessful"
4/19/2009 11:01:00 AM Posted by Metavirus

This kind of talk from George Will, on today's This Week With George Stephanopolous, is just disgusting:
"I think there's a radical sense of dislocation. They think we have adopted an economic model of Lemon Socialism, transferring wealth from the successful to the unsuccessful. That is not a long-term recipe for national success."
Translated into current reality, Will is saying that because Obama has proposed to restore the top tax rate for the top 5% of income tax payers and cut taxes on the remaining 95%, this is "transferring wealth from the successful to the unsuccessful".

"Unsuccessful"? Seriously!? This is a sentiment that pervades American culture that frankly disgusts me. Far too many people in this country labor under the latent notion that you're not "successful" until you make a lot of money. To suggest that a dockworker, machinist or plumber making a good living at, say, $75,000 per year is somehow "unsuccessful" is shameful. And we wonder why Americans have grown so disgusted with the conservative elites in Washington...

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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 08:13 AM
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1. George Will - another teabagging elitist n/t
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 08:15 AM
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3. He's the HTBMFEIC
(Head Tea-bagging, mother fucking elitist in charge)
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 08:15 AM
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2. What is wrong with that smeg-for-brains?!!
People work their asses off, try to move upward or show and do more, and remain pigeonholed, underpaid, et cetera... especially with the tax breaks and other bennies the top 5% have received the last 30 years, George really has no frigging clue.

If I become "successful", I'll reevaluate then let you know if he really is right or not...
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unapatriciated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 12:41 PM
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12. Does he actually work?
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 08:16 AM
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4. Can anyone name one time Will was correct about anything?
Why do the networks insist upon having the same old voices on week after week when it is apparent to the very great majority they don't know what they are talking about.
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 09:04 AM
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11. I know it's painful
The media loves the pseudo intellectual but they never call them out for all their stupid inaccurate predictions and falsehoods.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 08:19 AM
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5. Financial success doesn't equate to happiness. It helps with security, which
Edited on Mon Apr-20-09 08:19 AM by Ilsa
many Americans lack, given the death of viable pensions, failing savings, and outrageously expensive health care.

George Will is a turd for suggesting that people below a certain income level are "unsuccessful."
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 08:19 AM
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6. If your only standard is income - as his is - he's right. But he's excluding all college profs,
military folks, etc.
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 08:21 AM
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7. George Will wasn't he the one that
coined the term "underclass"? At least the first time I saw the term was in his column shortly after Reagan was elected
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 08:23 AM
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8. Stay Classy, George.
Time to retire coots like him . . . we shouldn't be encouraging credibility of a failed system. It's patently sickening that so many wingnuts subscribe to this mindset. I don't view the middle/working/poor classes as failures, because a failure would give up trying and fighting.
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 08:24 AM
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9. 95% of Americans not born on 3rd base
go figure :eyes:

I've worked as hard as anyone to try and get somewhere and spent years where it felt like I was stuck in the mud and spinning my wheels. Sure, I've made my share of mistakes and bad decisions, especially when I look at it in hindsight, but should that mean that I'm punished for the rest of my life for them? The CEO and executive class certainly doesn't seem to suffer such a fate, rather the opposite. And their mistakes often have tragic consequences for many, many people down the food chain from them.

My god, when are we going to rise up and strike down the class of priveleged plutocrats that have managed to rig the system for themselves? :grr:
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ejpoeta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 08:45 AM
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10. i guess it depends on yoru definition of 'successful'.
i point to my own father. he was born in 1938 in rochester ny. he was the oldest of eight kids. he basically spent his entire life taking care of his siblings and everyone else. he worked at Kodak for over 30 years, had a wife and six kids. we had a house and didn't really feel poor. he made $30k a year, which may have sounded like a lot, but my mom was sick for several years and in the end she died when i was 12 and my dad kinda went off for awhile. he ended up losing the house and going bankrupt. we didn't talk to him for a couple of years after we left when i was 16 and my sister was 11. but, in the end we all came back together as a family. and my father, who wasn't rich and lived in a trailer with his girlfriend and collected his pension from Kodak and worked off and on over the years. He didn't have a lot of money, but he sure helped his kids when they needed it and his siblings too. and in the end, when he got sick, my brother brought him to his house and cared for him and when he went in the hospital, all his kids rushed to his bedside. and the days before he died, we all lived at that hospital. we weren't fighting over his stuff. we were trying to do what HE wanted. and when he took his last breath on palm sunday at 9:10am, he was surrounded by all of his kids. mostly normal adult children with families of our own and kids.... and who loved our dad very much and miss him. and to me THAT is successful.
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 12:51 PM
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13. impoverishing 95% of the country doesn't make george will and is ilk
happy enough

they have to add insult to the injury to be totally satisfied

and nobody will do anything "successful" against him and his ilk (apart from 'trying' to tax them more but they'll pay some 'lawyers' to find the loopholes that will allow them not to pay one cent more in the end, in places like the 4th biggest economic power named Cayman Islands or else)


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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 12:57 PM
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14. If one defines "success" as surgically implanting one's lips on the asses of corporate executives...
...Will is successful.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 01:07 PM
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15. that's not really accurate
your interpretation of what Will is saying, that is.

I am one of the "unsuccessful" according to Will. The bottom 20% are the unsuccessful. In any sense that Obama increases spending on Liheap, or the EIC, or provides medical benefits to people in the bottom 20% who have not 'earned' them by getting a decent job, those are the 'unsuccessful' who are being rewarded. The Republicans are still mad that people like me are getting a $400 tax credit. WTF!! They scream. "The lazy bastid hfojvt is getting $400 and that loser does not even PAY TAXES DAMMIT!!" Clearly, my failure is being subsidized.

BTW, I pay about $450 in sales taxes every year.

And property taxes and FICA taxes and state income taxes, etc.
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