Every day it gets worse for Gonzo - Is he blackmailing W &Karl?

[Hokie]

I think the Republicans in Congress must be physically ill that Gonzo and Bush have dug in their heels on the USA scandal. Gonzo certainly does not want to give up the AG position. For someone so unqualified for the position as he is the thought of tarnishing his legacy as the first AG of Latin origin must be a huge pill to swallow. I wonder if he has threatened to throw Shrub and Rove under the bus if they ditch him?

The next few weeks are going to be interesting.

[HereSince1628]

1. My guess is that NO ONE would survive trying to throw Rove under the bus

The disloyalty to the team would result in * allowing Rove to have any "traitor" flailed alive, slowly drawn, and then quartered while barely alive.

[opihimoimoi]

2. They would bring back STONING

Meanwhile Gonzo is Toast....

[loudsue]

3. I think bush just wants gonzo in there to prevent congress from getting

to the bottom of things. With gonzo there, they can throw up roadblocks until January of 2009, and then bush can pardon all the criminals before he leaves. The only way to deal with THAT problem would be to impeach gonzo, and then impeach cheney & bush. I am afraid I don't see the DLC going along with that.

That's the problem with having republican infiltrators in the Dem party (DLC). The repervlikins/DLC have screwn this country so bad it hurts.

:kick::kick::kick:

[Warpy]

4. Naw, this is a matter of PRIDE

How DARE those Democrat nothings in Congress try to tell them who they can put into office? What the HELL are they talking about, anyway? Isn't everything a matter of petty politics and partisanship? WE are the ones who make the rules!

They loved Gonzo because he's the one who told them they'd get to torture other people if they kept them offshore. That made them hard for the first time in decades. It was better than Viagra ever could be.

I think if Gonzo goes it'll be just like Rumsfeld, at THEIR convenience.

The only thing Congress could possibly do to speed up the process is IMPEACH the whole rotten lot of them!

[Jack Rabbit]

5. No, he doesn't need to blackmail them

Bush believes it is a sign of weakness to admit error.

Which is why he does not change policies that clearly are not working or change advisors or cabinet officers who are associated with bad ideas or even misconduct.

[Vincardog]

6. Gonzo is to dumb to blackmail KKKarl Rove or W.

[C_U_L8R]

8. Or he just might be dumb enough to try it

there's no limit to the stupidity of this administration

[Peace Patriot]

9. Could be (he's too dumb). But I would put Bush in that category, too.

But both have lethal backers. I tend to think of this gang as a roiling pit of vipers. Blackmail is common. Simple blackmail. Deep blackmail. Various kinds of bribery and extortion and backstabbing. I doubt it's possible that they deal with each other any differently than they deal with us--the American people--or Democratic leaders, or the rest of the world. It's all one big blackmail. "Git outa line 'n' Osama's gonna git you."

They lie to us. They threaten us. They lie to each other. They threaten each other. And the generally dimwitted, talentless, ambitious little Buscons who would be attracted to such a regime--if they have any survival instinct at all--would have some emails or other docs hidden in a bank deposit somewhere as insurance. This comes from the top. It's a blackmail culture. The big snakes are doing it, so the little snakes had better keep their poisonous fangs sharpened. It costs a lot to keep people in lockstep. We're seeing some of the fallout from that now--Bushites ratting on Bushites.

I really started thinking about this back in early 2005, when I witnessed the "swiftboating" of our good CA Sec of State Kevin Shelley on entirely bogus corruption charges. Shelley had sued Diebold and demanded to see their source code prior to the 2004 election. Then the corrupt county election officials, the war profiteering corporate news monopolies, some of the state party leaders and WHO KNOWS WHO ELSE drove him from office. It's the "who knows who else?" that interests me. It smelled bad--real bad--like their were moles in his office, or some sort of conspiracy going on. I don't think we knew yet about the pervasive domestic spying. And I hadn't thought much about black ops happening right here in River City. But I'm real suspicious now that LOTS of people--particularly anyone with the goods on major Bushites, or in a position to block their goals (insiders, outsiders--the good, the bad and the ugly)--have been spied upon, blackmailed, pressured, set up.

Like I said, it's their culture. And some of the more minor Bushbots who have been caught up in it--the Young Republican dingalings they sent over to Iraq, the sincere Christian believers, some of the more innocent election officials or members of Republican Central Committees--and maybe some not so minor and not so innocent Republicans--may have withdrawal pains. It's pretty horrible what can happen to people steeped in this kind of situation. Fear. Nightmares. Emotional reversal, where they convince themselves that toadyism and lying for your masters is the truth and the right thing to do. I think it's almost like the impacts of torture, where your mind can really get messed with. The human mind wants freedom and range. It greatly dislikes being caged and having to repeat rote lines, or rote ways of thinking. I know what brainwashing feels like. I went to Catholic schools. The trouble with brainwashing is that, once the person gets out from under the power of the brainwashers, the free mind asserts itself, and first of all goes through a great rejection of all the BS, and feelings of revulsion and betrayal. So maybe we're going to have some wild Republican hippies running around, dressing weird and taking drugs, and singing "love, love love"--if the lid ever really comes off. The caged minds of all of us, in the '50s, produced the '60s. And us older rebels will become the "new conservatives." ("Get. A. Job.").

[Jim Warren]

7. Doubt it

If there's any blackmail to be done you can bet Karl is the one doing it.