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davidswanson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-06-09 12:40 PM
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Two Lonely Acts of Courage
One member of Congress stood alone 7.5 years ago against the original authorization to attack Afghanistan. And one member of Congress, a different one, stood alone last week against funding a massive escalation of that war.

On September 14th, 2001, Congresswoman Barbara Lee spoke, in tears, on the floor of the House of Representatives. She, alone, would vote No on letting the president decide on going to war in Afghanistan. She, alone, would refuse to authorize the president to use powers the Constitution does not give him, and trust him to use those powers wisely. Here's video.

Lee made a practical and a moral case against going to war. Military action, she said, would not prevent future terrorist attacks in the United States. In fact we now know that criminal negligence by the president and resentment of past military activities of the United States and Israel, together with suicidal religious beliefs, had led to the attacks of 9-11, and that terrorism has increased as the United States has invaded and occupied Afghanistan and Iraq. Lee urged "restraint," "stepping back," and the need to "think through the implications of our actions, so that this does not spiral out of control." Few would argue that things did not, indeed, spiral out of control. "Let us not," Lee warned, "become the evil that we deplore."

We are now a nation that regularly bombs civilians, detains the innocent, and tortures prisoners -- sometimes to death. We've threatening to attack Iran, and nobody in Washington is questioning the legality of aggressive war, because that would mean questioning the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan. Opinion of the United States around the world has plummeted to the point where we are seen as the most dangerous "rogue state" (Financial Times survey 2007). And this began with Afghanistan, where we have killed and destroyed in great measure, but done very little to either apprehend the criminals we were supposedly there to find, or to benefit the innocent people whose country we have made a more dangerous, more impoverished place to live. Our own puppet president of Afghanistan has long been pushing the U.S. media to cover his demand that the U.S. cease using air strikes against the people of Afghanistan, but he may just add his career to the list of casualties.

Congress just voted on a budget to dramatically escalate the war in Afghanistan, and maintain the one in Iraq, at a cost of $130 billion plus interest to our children and grandchildren, except for the ones who go over there and die. One would think that after 7.5 years of disaster, at a time when budgets are tight, to say the least, and trillions of dollars are desperately needed to fend off any traumatic lessening of gluttony for Wall Street robber barons, one would think there might be some opposition found in Congress. The people of the United States have turned against these wars. Where are our representatives? Well, they now work for two parties. Republicans were required to vote against the budget and all did so. Democrats were required to vote for it, and only 20 broke ranks. Of those 20, it would appear that 19 primarily wanted to vote with their friends the Republicans. But one member of Congress made his vote against the escalation of war and said so in the following statement:

"I am committed to doing everything I can to put our community and our nation on the path to economic stability. I led opposition to the bank bailout program TARP, I worked vigorously in favor of the stimulus package, and I have worked to save the automotive, steel and aerospace industries in America. This budget is a statement of principles for the upcoming year, and I cannot accept it in its entirety. I will not vote for a budget that ties military spending to the operational funding of our government. This year, the budget includes $130 billion for war funding. The Washington Post reports today another 10,000 troops may be sent to Afghanistan, bringing our total number of troops there to as much as 78,000 by 2010 – a more than 100% increase from today’s troop levels. This budget is a plan that authorizes the expansion of the war. I simply cannot endorse a budget or a plan that sends more of our brave men and women to Afghanistan, a conflict which has the potential to become this generation’s Vietnam."


That was Dennis Kucinich.

Lee and Kucinich stood alone on two separate occasions. History will prove them right. Lee's vote came in a spotlight and with the public actually against her. Kucinich's came in a shadow but with his party and the current president against him.

There is another vote yet to come on another $75.5 billion for the two wars in a "supplemental" spending bill. What we need is for one brave and decent member of Congress to introduce an amendment to

1. Devote the $75.5 billion exclusively to withdrawal, and/or
2. Block any funding until Congress ratifies a treaty -- the current one with Iraq being unconstitutional, and/or
3. Require a Paygo surtax on millionaires to cover the cost.

The people of this country already see how history will judge what we do, as well as the danger that there will be no more history to judge if we continue down this path.

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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-06-09 01:15 PM
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1. Barbara Lee and Dennis Kucinich
modern day dirt fucking hippies.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-06-09 01:45 PM
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2. Barbara Lee is as far from a hippie as can be.....
She is a Black women steeped in the Black Church,
with a sense of deep principle but/and
in a very safe seat (Oakland-San Leandro Bay Area, CA).

I know her personally.
She is my congresswoman.
My daughter pictured below interned for her just this past summer.
And we attend the same church.

Barbara Lee is one of President Obama's biggest supporters,
and even when she doesn't agree with him, she doesn't call him names,
stabs him in the back, or loses faith in him.

There are many who could learn an awful lot from Barbara Lee on insight,
on fairness, and on recognizing a good person when it is all very evident.
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-06-09 02:08 PM
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3. i know who Barbara Lee is.
Edited on Mon Apr-06-09 02:17 PM by KG
get yourself clued in on Dirty Fucking Hippies: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKEZoY-TMG4
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Mithreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-06-09 02:12 PM
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5. 207 recs
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-06-09 02:33 PM
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12. Peace to you too...and my comment stands.....
Edited on Mon Apr-06-09 02:34 PM by FrenchieCat
But I'll let her know about the dirty hippie comment...
Although I'm sure she would agree with me that she holds MLK much closer to her ideal for inspiration....
as she is outspoken in a dignified manner,
serenely steadfast and virtuously patient and fair.





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Mithreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-06-09 02:10 PM
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4. K&R for both, true representatives and among our best. nt
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-06-09 02:18 PM
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6. When enough bodies come home and Joe 6pack has to pay for it, they won't be so lonely.
Now, it's fashionable to be a hawk because "our" guys are in charge of the killing. It won't last.
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-06-09 02:19 PM
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7. geez, when does 'enough' money and people happen?
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-06-09 02:25 PM
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9. Probably not until they run out of bodybags and the nation is bankrupt.
Until then, they'll keep the populace frightened with ever more terrifying bogeymen.
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-06-09 02:28 PM
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10. well, there's still plenty of bodybags left.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 10:16 AM
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21. I hope so
I am aghast at the number of Dems I meet who have taken on the banner of chickenhawk as they sit in their armchairs wishing for more war and sending other peoples kids off to participate.
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20score Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-06-09 02:23 PM
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8. K&R
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-06-09 02:31 PM
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11. K&R
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-06-09 04:42 PM
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13. Actually, history doesn't need to prove them right. Everyone with an ounce of integrity
Edited on Mon Apr-06-09 04:44 PM by Joe Chi Minh
and an IQ above 60, knows it. But everyone is a hostage.
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countryjake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-06-09 05:02 PM
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14. K&R!
"no more history to judge"...the fall of empires seems to always be very good courses of study, lessons learned, errors picked apart ad finitum. The failure of "democratic" capitalism should be no exception and hopefully, very harshly judged. When economic stability is based on imperialism, the power and strength of the military is inherent to the success of that economy. Both Lee and Kucinich will bang their brains out trying to "vote" against the very essence of this system they live under.

I do admire their "stand", tho.
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Richd506 Donating Member (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-06-09 06:31 PM
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15. Not to be an ass or anything
But I do not regret the decision to go into Afghanistan. I was strongly against the invasion of Iraq, mainly because I felt it was a distraction. I don't see the necessity in staying there though.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 12:08 PM
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26. Civilians have borne the brunt as casualties in Afghanistan.
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-06-09 08:53 PM
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16. Money"greed" trumps peace, and so we went to war.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 10:31 AM
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22. "Money trumps peace". -george w. moron* 2/14/08 nt
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-06-09 09:30 PM
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17. Barbara Lee aks the hard questions, we love her
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FlyingSquirrel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-06-09 10:20 PM
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18. Dennis Kucinich = Jiminy Cricket
Let your conscience be your guide!

:)

:thumbsup:

Same for Barbara Lee, but she doesn't look or sound anything like Jiminy.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-06-09 10:26 PM
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19. and one Senator Boxer stood with Congresswoman Tubbs Jones to contest the 2nd stolen Bush "election"
:patriot:
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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 10:13 AM
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20. K&R and thank you.
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trthnd4jstc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 10:43 AM
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23. Where is Honor and the Concern for Our Future. Why are the Majority of Democrats and Republicans
Warmongerers? We are in our decline because of outsourcing, deregulation, globalization, imperialism. And the Majority of Democrats and Republicans continue to support these policies. They are Traitors!
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dana_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 11:11 AM
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24. great post - thank you!
two pople who ut their asses on the line when ot was very unpopular to do so. Both ardent anti-Iraq folks who think through the issues rather than letting the popular thing to do get in the way.
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 12:07 PM
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25. Thanks For Posting!! I KNOW We're NOT Supposed To Revolt Or So It's Said....
but there ARE things happening that disturb me a lot. Rachel Maddow made some very interesting and intriguing comments about Larry Summers last night!

Makes ME wonder!!!
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lucretia54 Donating Member (96 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 12:16 PM
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27. Thank you AND
Thank you Dennis and Barbara!

These lonely acts of courage are not going unnoticed!

And they are creating ripples in the water....

Thank you Thank you Thank you
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RedCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 12:22 PM
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28. "1 man (woman?) with reason makes a majority." A. Blinking
Good to see their day has come.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 12:26 PM
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29. K&R
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