Recall of ....spices, ???!!?? possible salmonella.

[dixiegrrrrl]

How the heck does salmonella develop in species ???

FDA link:

http://www.fda.gov/oc/po/firmrecalls/unioninternational204_09.html

[rurallib]

1. It is amazing how Bushco totally fucked up FDA

Well every regulatory agency. Think of the mines.
A couple years back(2005 I think), my RW senator, Chuckles Grassley, proposed a king of super FDA that would essentially do what the FDA was supposed to do. He had a town hall nearby around that time. I went down and asked why we would need a new agency to do what another agency was supposed to do but wasn't. His answer was that it was needed because the FDA wasn't doing it's job and food safety was very important especially to Iowans. I started to laugh but the nearly 100% repug crowd just stared into space. I tried to ask a followup but was ignored.

[Webster Green]

2. I assume tha stuff is from China. They would figure out a way to fuck it up.

The FDA release doesn't say where the stuff originated. :shrug:

[Nikia]

10. I saw another article about it suggesting pepper from Vietnam

I don't know if that has been confirmed.

[DeschutesRiver]

12. oh noes!! One of my favorite spices of all time

is a very strong and wonderful tasting cinnamon from Vietnam, believe they call it Cassia cinnamon. For many years, it was excluded from import, and finally was allowed to be sold again (at least that is what I heard).

I buy it from Penzey's in Portland, and boy, if that took a hit, I'd be miserable. A tiny bit, though, goes a long way, so hopefully my stock of it would last awhile.

[Nikia]

13. Another thing: many spices originate outside of the US

While some of it can and is grown in the US, some of it has a long tradition of being grown in other countries where the climate is better growing the particuliar plants.

[lonestarnot]

3. I think anything being shipped to America from another country is beig pissed on.

But we eat it like it's good.

[trotsky]

4. Thankfully, spices in the US are commonly irradiated.

Ain't no critters surviving that. Another reason to buy American.

[ellenfl]

5. anyone know HOW to buy american?

btw, could it be that the influx of tainted food is being used to make irradiation, and other unnatural forms of food treatment, acceptable to americans?

just a paranoid thought. bushco made me VERY paranoid.

ellen fl

[trotsky]

6. Spices have been irradiated in the US since 1983.

Please don't buy into the FUD about irradiation.

[ellenfl]

7. sure, and there's no reason to think mercury is bad for you. eom

[trotsky]

8. *sigh*

Non Sequitur

[BlooInBloo]

9. Yup. That's American stupidity for you.

[ellenfl]

15. excuse me? it's not necessary to call me names. considering

all the recent cases of tainted food, toys, etc., a little paranoia might keep you alive. and if you don't think there is a problem with mercury, google 'japan' and 'mercury poisoning'.

oh, and i don't need a definition of non sequitor. i am well-read and well-educated so please do not imply that i am stupid because i happen to disagree with your point of view.

this place sure has turned nasty lately.

ellen fl

[trotsky]

16. Evidently you DO need a definition

because you continue to spread fear about mercury when the topic was actually food irradiation. It's not that you're disagreeing, but that you act as if the presence of mercury is a reason not to trust irradiation. The two are not linked.

[ellenfl]

17. the link i was making is the fact that we may not have been

told the truth about any problems with irradiation as we had not been told of the perils of mercury in our foods or medicines. perhaps you could have just asked me to explain what i meant instead of dismissing my point as stupid.

and i would appreciate it if you would stop inferring that i am stupid just because you missed my point.

ellen fl

[trotsky]

19. I'll just point you back to the definition again.

Because I don't buy into the big bad boogeyman "THEY" who keeps all these deadly secrets away from us. Plus, anyone can study the science behind irradiation as well as the chemical and organic properties of mercury and determine what's safe. "THEY" can't withhold logical thought and analysis from us - you should try it sometime.

[ellenfl]

20. well, i am not a scientist and i expect that the scientists

who work for us will keep us so advised . . . you know, like they did when bushco was in charge.

btw, appropriate user name.

ellen fl

[trotsky]

21. You don't have to be a scientist to understand both issues.

That's the point.

Ah, never mind. You've made up your mind - I'm sorry to confuse you with facts.

(And BTW, my username has nothing to do with the historical Trotsky, but you can slam me for it anyway.)

[ellenfl]

22. yes, i have made up my mind to be skeptical. you may

blithely dismiss my point . . . which you still, apparently, do not get. i will continue to question.

ellen fl

[AngryAmish]

23. IT is necessary to call you names

It may prevent you from saying stupid things in the future. A little shaming, you see...

[MiniMe]

18. McCormick is in Baltimore, MD

[Nikia]

11. They aren't all irradiated

Some companies don't want their spices irradiated for one or more of these reasons: cost, belief that it will change the flavor, it makes the product not "natural", belief that it will destroy nutrients, or belief that the product retains radiation.

[Obamarama]

14. Uncle Chen and Lian How. Hmmmmmmm. Wonder where those brands come from??

We need to stop exporting food from China. The press release and alert didn't specifically mention the country origin that I saw, but I'm willing to bet they came from China based on the names alone.

What's amazing is that I went to buy garlic powder and guess where it all comes from? China. Like we can't freeze dry and granulize garlic in this country? God only knows how much melamine is mixed in the the garlic powder as filler.

I also bought a large bag of pine nuts and guess where they were from? China! I doub't there's much they can do to make pine nuts toxic, but all the same...why China?

I'm not an isolationist in any sense of the word, and I know to an extent it's a given that we will always import cheap items from China. But why do we insist on importing this shit that has the potential to make us sick? Even of the FDA were fully funded, the fact remains that they Chinese are clearly not concerned about safety or purity of food exports.