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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 11:49 PM
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New Cars that sit on a car lot for too long can develop a variety of problems, expert says
Cars parked too long can develop problems

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He says that Mercedes and Toyota currently lease temporary space to store their cars before they are shipped to dealers across the nation: Toyota has 160 acres and has requested another 50 acres, while Mercedes leases 20 acres and has requested 15 more.

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He says Los Angeles-area ports usually have capacity to store about 2,000 cars but says car companies also are leasing storage space at small local airports and many other sites. He also says there is a backlog of cars awaiting export to the U.S. Thousands, he says, are parked on container ships still at sea.

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Ken Lavacot, of 2carpros.com, says cars that sit on a lot for too long can develop a variety of problems a consumer should look out for.

He recommends checking the battery for leakage, and says that hoses and other componentry including belts and intake books that are vulnerable to "natural decomposure" should also be checked.

A full fuel system flush should also be undertaken to clean out "bad fuel that can gum up and clog the injectors," and Lavacot also recommends a full replacement of air, oil and cabin filters, and engine oil and coolant.

Michael Royce, a former car salesman who runs the site BeatTheCarSalesman.com, says a flat battery can indicate a car has been parked for a good while.

"In my experience, the most common problem with new cars sitting on the lot a long time is that their batteries tend to die and have to be recharged. So if you choose a particular car to test drive and the salesman suddenly discovers that the engine won't start when he turns the key, you can probably assume that the vehicle been sitting on the dealership lot a long time.



http://www.cnn.com/2009/LIVING/wayoflife/04/01/aa.cars.built.before.sold/index.html
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 11:53 PM
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1. I agree on the battery
and depending on how long the car sits, maybe the fuel. Otherwise, what crap. If the car isn't run, how does the air filter go bad?

Also, this is mixing issues. Cars stuck in area ports and cars on dealership lots. Most lot cars, at least where I am, get moved around. Front line, grouping, detailing...all causes cars to get started and moved.
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Strelnikov_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 11:59 PM
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2. Agree.
Edited on Sat Apr-04-09 12:00 AM by Strelnikov_
Take hose/belt deterioration, function of age and to a lesser degree hours of operation. I could see it if you are buying a car that sat around Long Beach for five years . . but last years model?
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 12:07 AM
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4. Exactly. The only one year hose/belt deterioration would be
rodent related. Otherwise, Jay Leno is totally fucked.
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 12:02 AM
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3. This is very true - I started working on vehicles over 40 years ago
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Engines have to run to be kept in shape, otherwise "fogged down" with oil for storage - which ain't happening with these cars parked in lots, docks or container ships.

All those cars stored for more than a month or so will have shorter lives and more problems than cars delivered, sold, and used.

The ones stored on ships or near the ocean will be rust buckets before their time from the salty air and mist that will infest the vehicle.

Any serious collector knows that preparations must be made to store a vehicle if it is intended to be useful and durable in the future.

THE MESSAGE?

As a result of all this storage, expect to find millions of cars in the next decade not lasting as long as their predecessors

BUY USED!

A relatively new vehicle, although used a bit, is a much better bang for your buck than a new one.

Mine is 30 years old, - bought for 3 grand 19 years ago - and even though it is far from pristine condition, is reliable - and INCREASING in value - just because it is still alive!

Too bad I can't say the same thing for myself:

:silly:

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Hardrada Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 02:18 AM
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9. My 1993 Lincoln Town Car still looks nice and, I think, will
run and run as long as I get it proper maintenance. It was stodgy engineering but also quite good for durability.
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 12:09 AM
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5. That's why all vehicles on lots should have regular 30 day maintenance
It includes looking things over and battery check.
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1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 01:20 AM
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8. ?
my newest vehicle is 21 years old.

my oldest vehicle is 30 years old.

both run just fine. even if they sit 6 months or so out of the year before i drive them.

regular 30 day maintenance? wtf would that be?

y'all have a silly understanding of automobiles and what maintenance is required.

y'all must be city folks, right?

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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 11:04 AM
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10. Um, I work at a dealership
Edited on Sat Apr-04-09 11:05 AM by tammywammy
Yes there's 30 day maintenance done on all vehicles in inventory. It includes doing a battery check (since not all cars are started and moved every day).

Customers tend to be not patient when they walk out for a test drive and the car doesn't start b/c the battery has run down from sitting.
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Sen. Walter Sobchak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 01:06 AM
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6. Mazda had to scrap a couple thousand cars a few years ago
Edited on Sat Apr-04-09 01:09 AM by Sen. Walter Sobchak
The freighter carrying them had some sort of drama at sea and while the insurance issues were worked out the cars just sat outdoors in Oregon for the better part of two years without any TLC from the insurance company. By the time matters were resolved they were a couple of model years out of date and had just been sitting there so the entire lot of them was crushed.
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masuki bance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-04-09 01:06 AM
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7. Or someone left an interior light on.
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-05-09 05:10 PM
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11. lol n/t
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-05-09 05:13 PM
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12. Well I won't be buying any cars that are having to sit on a car lot
thats been unloaded from a ship anyway. fuck 'em, I buy Fords and fords only.
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doctor jazz Donating Member (474 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-05-09 05:14 PM
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13. Natural decomposure?? Is that what Dubya suffered from?
:rofl:

Mostly that piece is a little hysterical. Yes, batteries will discharge (that's why God invented battery chargers) and gasoline will precipitate out gummy crap (not the proper chemical descriptive but it more or less describes it) after many months but a little additive in the tank will flush it out.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-05-09 05:17 PM
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14. Check for mouse or rat nests under hood also. They love to nest in there
and can chew on wiring.
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