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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 08:59 AM
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Barack and Me
Edited on Tue Mar-31-09 09:01 AM by DainBramaged
Source: MSNBC

Does anyone still remember "Roger and Me?" Michael Moore's 1989 film chronicled the filmmaker's attempts to interview GM Chairman Roger Smith, whose efforts to streamline and downsize had shattered GM's hometown of Flint, Mich. Back then, shutting down plants, cutting benefits, and throwing workers on the proverbial street was depicted as the epitome of corporate heartlessness and greed.

Now it is the policy of the Obama administration. Twenty years after "Roger and Me," we are all heartless capitalists. We want efficiency, viability, and fast results, and we're not going to fritter away tens of billions of taxpayers dollars waiting for them. We've agreed that keeping dying companies on life support isn't the solution. But when it comes to creating a plan for what happens next to the workers displaced in the process, we are every bit as lacking in ideas as Roger Smith ever was.

General Motors is in as bad a position as you can imagine. You've read about GM's enormous losses — last year, they came out to about $14,560 for every single employee. The further you drill down into General Motors, the worse it looks. Numbers make the point more efficiently than words. Since last year, GM's U.S. sales are down an amazing 55 percent. Its production is down 61 percent. Its production of passenger cars is down 71 percent. (You won't find that number in GM's monthly sales figures; you need to do some math to get to that level of dreariness.) Even if GM made no more vehicles, the ones standing on dealers' lots right now would cover all of GM's sales for 161 days.

We've been told over and over again that the government doesn't want to run the U.S. auto companies, but what the government is doing is no different from what any buyout fund — such as Cerberus, which bought, to its regret, the equally hopeless Chrysler — would do. It is insisting on radical restructuring (the president used the words restructure or restructuring 10 times in Monday's address), a word that everyone understands translates to shutdowns and layoffs.

Read more: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29962730/



<snip>The horrifically intractable problem of what to do with displaced workers is a big part of what has prevented the rebuilding of the U.S. auto industry for years. Workers have been offered buyout after buyout, and still many have chosen to hold on — to hold on even when "keeping their jobs" meant going to a grim cafeteria and doing nothing, rather than forfeit what is likely to be the last decent paycheck they get in their lives. "Restructuring" means that we have reached the endgame here. The administration has said, in effect, that it will no longer expect, or even allow, the auto companies to subsidize the failing rust belt economy. <snip>

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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 09:03 AM
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1. This does not appear to be LBN? nt
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 09:05 AM
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2. It JUST broke on the front page of MSNBC you have a problemn withit?
Edited on Tue Mar-31-09 09:06 AM by DainBramaged
Click on the link on the front page. What are you the LBN police, or is this about the UAW you have a bone to pick?

the headline is

Big losers of Obama's auto plan: workers


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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 09:12 AM
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3. The Obama loyalists are in denial.
It's a very bitter pill to swallow, but we have to admit that our guy just sold us out. ("Us" being the non-CEO class)
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ogneopasno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 09:22 AM
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7. I really hate that objecting to Obama's move is being characterized by some on this board as
"supporting management." Hardly. I totally agree about selling us out.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 09:12 AM
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4. It's an editorial, that's all.
Not saying there is anything wrong with it.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 09:19 AM
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5. No, you simply wanted it off the LBN page, what a joke.
Ooohh Mr. Mod, I don't like the post Dain did in LBN, move it please. This place is getting more like a kindergarten everyday.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 09:22 AM
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6. just for the record
No one alerted it but I moved it. It's analysis and commentary and doesn't meet the LBN guidelines. :hi:
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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 09:27 AM
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8. it's a good editorial that deserves debate here at DU, but i think
they were just making a statement of fact.

i've noticed that this issue has had quite an impact on you. is this affecting you on a more personal level?

i agree with you that something is wrong with all of this, and it doesn't seem right that TARP goes to the greediest of the pigs, and yet magically the companies involving union labor get denied, but they aren't exactly innocent either.

corporate execs could have done much more in the last 20 yrs, and could have made much better decisions. this doesn't necessarily mean that they don't deserve a hand though, but it brings to question their ability to stay in the forefront of the auto-industry.

almost all my family and i are all union, education, iron-workers, pipe-fitters, and so on. i am on the side of the worker, but the execs have fucked this company good.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 01:35 PM
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9. But as usual, it's get NO attention from the members.
We're shit here, we work with our hands therefore we don't deserve a living wage or to be treated fairly.
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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-01-09 07:33 AM
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10. i would think it's pretty fair to say that
no one here would agree with that statement.

and anyone that does is a complete fuck.

that's the opinion i'm of at least...
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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-01-09 07:41 AM
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11. A bit touchy today? nt
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