Why don't you support Dennis Kucinich in the Primary?

[bryant69]

For those of you who don't. Would you say it is primarily for pragmatic reasons (i.e. you don't think he has a chance of being elected)? Or for policy reasons (you don't agree with what he plans to do or how he plans to do it)?

I will note, parenthetically, that I don't see anything wrong with deciding a guy can't get elected and choosing someone else. Other people may disagree. I'll also say I use the term support which might be a more hard term than I need; I personally haven't completely made up my mind yet, though I am definitely leading to wards a candidate who is not Dennis Kucinich (in my case Captain America (yeah I know he's fictional and dead at the moment, but I'm still hopeful)).

Bryant
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[The Count]

1. I'll gladly vote for anyone who opposed the war. Consistently, that is.

[Sapere aude]

2. I know this may come as a repeat of 2004, but I don't think he can win.

I will vote for the person that I feel has the best platform and who I think can beat the repug that runs. I don't know who that is at this time.

[bigwillq]

3. It's DK or Gore for me in the primary.

Bring the troops home.

[bullimiami]

4. dennis is definately a possiblity for me.

[Bitwit1234]

5. Same reason I wouldn't vote for Hillary Clinton

She has no chance. She would make a good president. The same for Obama. He is also a good candidate. Neither would get elected even if they did win the primaries.

Our best chance is Edwards. He could take it.

[Radical Activist]

38. That's what everyone said about Kerry.

That he was the most "electable" candidate. In the end people are only guessing about who can get elected.

[MethuenProgressive]

6. Kucinich isn't on my list at all.

C'mon, we all love our nutty uncles, but none of us want to live with him...

[martymar64]

43. Yeah, bringing our troops home from Iraq is Sooooo nutty!

:eyes:

[jus_the_facts]

7. he will get my vote again...just as he did in '04. n/t

[coalition_unwilling]

11. Don't blame me, I voted for Kucinich (in '04 California Dem primary).

Then proceeded to hold my nose firmly in general election and pull the lever (ink-a-vote) for Kerry.

[jus_the_facts]

13. same here...

...exactly! :hi:

[frylock]

20. me three!

[Nutmegger]

8. If everyone voted according to the issues, DK is the person hands down.

DK 2008.

[TahitiNut]

9. Yep. It's not often that I get someone so totally in agreement with my views ...

... so there's no way in hell I'd pass up the chance to support him. I think it's insane that people who find him in agreement with them more than any other candidate would deny themselves by not supporting him. That's just suicidal, no matter what the spurious rationale.

[LSK]

10. I love him on his issues, but I just dont like his delivery in speechs

Like yesterdays forum, I thought he had the worst delivery.

[roody]

30. He was RIGHT ON yesterday on Democracy Now.

[martymar64]

44. So its all superficial for you right?

Why don't we have Brad Pitt run then?

:sarcasm:

[LSK]

45. nice strawman, i said nothing about his looks

I said his DELIVERY.

Presidents have to make speeches. I dont think his delivery is that good.

And do I have to remind you we live in the age of the 30 second soundbite and most voters might only watch 1 debate??? They sure as hell are not going to research his voting record.

Look what happened to Dean.

[martymar64]

51. Brad Pitt is great at delivery!!!

In case you didn't notice, there was a sarcasm tag.

Lighten up, dude!

[Bjornsdotter]

12. If it's the same as 2004

...and it's pretty well all decided by the time Illinois votes, I'll vote my heart just like I did then.

I voted for Dean in 2004 and in 2008 I'll vote Gore or Kucinich if it's already been decided who has the nomination. If it's still up in the air, I'm not sure who I'll vote for yet.

Cheers

[scarletwoman]

14. The primaries are THE time to vote your true preference -- NOT the time to triangulate!

Seems like people get so caught up in "strategery" that they lose sight of the fact that this is the one time were you can really truly express what's important to you without compromise.

Everybody knows that no matter who ultimately gets the nomination to run in the general election, there will be a whole lot of compromising going on by the folks who had hoped for someone else. Why rush the process? How about NOT compromising on who you'll vote for in a primary election?

sw

[Laurab]

17. In my view, it wouldn't be without compromise

For example - I don't want Hillary to win the primary. If I were to vote for Dennis, as much as I might like him, it would take away a vote for someone I like, who may be able to beat Hillary in the primary. It could be very close, and my vote could make a difference. To use it on Kucinich, who isn't going to win the primary, would be throwing away my vote.

OTOH, if you really don't care which dem wins the primary, it would be without compromise. If I were one of those people, I'd vote for Kucinich, but I care too much about who wins the primary, because I want it to be someone who can win the election.

[scarletwoman]

27. I am much more cynical than you. It doesn't matter to me who wins the primaries, because

it's guaranteed that it will ONLY be someone who is in good graces with the Ruling Class.

I just want to make it a bit more difficult for whoever it is to claim a "mandate".

sw

[bryant69]

15. This is an interesting result

I will say that My reasons for not voting for Dennis Kucinich are on policy grounds; I think there are other candidates that better represent what I want for America. But I am on the moderate side of DU.

Bryant

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

16. I don't support it because it's a vanity campaign.

I have never considered them to be a good thing.

[bobbolink]

18. when he dropped poverty from his priorities, I dropped him.

What a HUGE disappointment he was for me!!

And, when he was here last year, I told him so!

[BlooInBloo]

19. Because he's batshit insane.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/2/23/113236/176

He's a nice man, a well-intentioned man, and a man I can't see suggesting have his finger on The Button.

[Ron Green]

21. Yeah, maybe if we elect enough people like Dennis we can get rid of the fucking button.

[BlooInBloo]

22. I'm not willing to bet my life on it.

[Greyhound]

41. Do you honestly believe that Dennis K is/would be more dangerous than

arbusto_®? Now that's crazy.:crazy:

[w4rma]

23. I support the anti-Hillary candidate that folks coalesce behind. That is not Kucinich. (nt)

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

24. He's Just Simply Not Presidential Material.

I do not think for a second that he'd make a strong President. He definitely has some good policies and viewpoints but he has his share of flawed ones as well. But just generally speaking he hasn't come close to doing anything in his political career to justify his ability to handle the tasks of the Presidency. He's never even been elected to higher office than a House rep for chrissake.

He's a good guy and has some good positions, but I think he's a far cry from legitimate Presidential material. Then on the other side of things, he also could not get elected nationally no matter what he did, so that alone makes the former irrelevant anyway.

[sicksicksick_N_tired]

25. He lacks the,...charisma or aura or something.

His stated ideals are common to human needs and hopes and I admire him. But, he "HE" somehow,...I can't explain it,...fails to inspire.

:shrug:

[Ron Green]

26. Maybe 5,000 years of Empire have conditioned us to follow imperial leaders.

You know, "strong daddy" types who will protect us from danger in return for our loyalty. It's hard to break out of a mold that old, but it's what we've got to do if we're to survive.

[bryant69]

31. I don't know -

I think an argument can be made that changing one cog in the system, even if it's the presidential cog, isn't going to actually change the system and may in fact end up crushing that cog.

Bryant
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[Ron Green]

34. You're right that a systemic change has to happen, and it's basically got to be from the bottom up,

but the only way to compete with the corporate message machine is through the office of the US President. He (or she) is the one voice that's always heard. If we were to hear new messages from that office, messages of peace, connection, human worth, sustainability and so forth, then turning away from Empire - which is absolutely necessary if humans have any hope of survival - could possibly begin.

[martymar64]

46. I'm all for Revolution too!

:patriot:

[Cobalt Violet]

28. He's not a "rockstar" enough for you?

Is that what it is?

[rman]

36. Fails to inspire you to do what?

What inspiration are you looking for in a candidate, and is there any that does give you that inspiration?

[SoCalDem]

50. I agree with your interpretation. I LIKE the guy, but he just doesn't have "IT".

I cannot define "it", but it's like so many things.. you know it when you see "it".

Most people can walk into a room full of people, and without knowing how they do it, can pick out the "leaders" in the group.

There's a certain way they stand, present themselves, speak..whatever.. It's an intangible thing.

The others may be perfectly intelligent, nice people, but the leaders stand out.

[roody]

29. When Kerry conceded, I said, "That's it. I am registering

Green, and staying Green." I had flip flopped for years to participate in primaries. PLEASE nominate Kucinich so I can vote for him in the general election! What RockStar Dennis isn't, his lovely charming wife is!

[Lilith Velkor]

32. He needs to take that ring and get his ass to Mordor

If he gets back in time for the primary, I'll vote for him. :silly:

[Laura PourMeADrink]

33. No, agree with his policies 100% but he's too "weird/odd" for general consumption.

[mmonk]

35. My two candidates (and my only two so far of the announced)

are Dennis Kucinich and John Edwards. Since my state won't be one of the early primary states, I don't know if Dennis will still be there when it comes my turn. I'm going to contribute to both campaigns. I going to spend my time and concentration on activism trying to restore our democracy. The right candidates are usually the ones without the party apparatus or think tanks or big money behind them. Too bad that is the system of today.

[Radical Activist]

37. I think he would wreck the country

based on what I've seen of how he runs a campaign.

Taking the ideological absolutist position is a good tactical device to make a point as an issue candidate, but you can't build a consensus to run a nation that way.

[bluedog]

39. don't know what it is .but I just don't like him

sorry if that offends anyone....its just the feeling I get.......

[bryant69]

40. Just his personality? Or is there any more to it?

And if it is his personality, what is it about it you don't like?

Bryant
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[Greyhound]

42. In view of your handle, I'm thinking it might be his opposition to the

corporate oligarchy?

[NoPasaran]

47. There is no way I would ever vote for a vegan for president

[Ron Green]

49. Well, that's a reasonable criterion.

:sarcasm:

[Dr Fate]

48. I honestly like Obama & Edwards better, and I think they can reach more voters.

DK is great- I only disagree with him on occasion.