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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-29-09 07:07 AM
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British Foreign Office Finally Admits To Receiving Intelligence From Torture
The excellent Craig Murray lost his job as ambassador for highlighting this, while the FCO denied they did such things. Now, they admit they do.

Tucked away at Page 15 of its annual Human Rights report, the FCO has finally made a public admission of its use of intelligence from torture. Despite the Orwellian doublespeak about "unreserved condemnation of torture", this is the clearest statement the government has ever made that it, as a policy, employs intelligence from torture.
"One example is the question of the use of intelligence provided to the UK by other countries. The provenance of such intelligence is often unclear – partners rarely share details of their sources. All intelligence received, whatever its source, is carefully evaluated, particularly where it is clear that it has been obtained from individuals in detention. The use of intelligence possibly derived through torture presents a very real dilemma, given our unreserved condemnation of torture and our efforts to eradicate it. Where there is intelligence that bears on threats to life, we cannot reject it out of hand. What is quite clear, however, is that information obtained as a result of torture would not be admissible as evidence in any criminal or civil proceedings in the UK. It does not matter whether the evidence was obtained here or abroad."

http://www.fco.gov.uk/resources/en/pdf/pdf15/human-rights-2008

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I might pause here to say that this stunning new admission by the FCO proves I was telling the truth all along. Given that Jack Straw in particular and the FCO in general have been calling me mad and a liar for the last five years, I hope you might forgive me for asking you to dwell on that for a moment.

Now let me return to analyse what the FCO statement means. It is a piece of mind-blowing hypocrisy. You cannot, in the same paragraph, argue our unreserved condemnation of torture, and that it save lives so we use intelligence from it. I would add that it is also an outright lie. Not a single one of the many pieces of torture intelligence I saw in Uzbekistan had the slightest bearing on saving lives in the UK. In fact the "intelligence" was, on the whole and in detail, highly misleading. Yet the FCO made a very definite policy decision to continue to receive it - because it came from the CIA.

http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2009/03/fco_finally_adm.html
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-29-09 07:13 AM
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1. Maybe one of these days we'll find out who killed
Dr. David Kelly.

K & R for an important post.
War crimes!!!
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-29-09 07:21 AM
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Edited on Sun Mar-29-09 07:23 AM by Solly Mack
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