If President Obama is so WRONG...WHO is RIGHT?

[opihimoimoi]

Many Campfire Hogs are telling us President Obama is Wrong on this or that.....and from time to time they are wrong as described....but to the point...what are their viable alternatives?

[MADem]

1. There's that "right" word...those are the people who are saying Obama is wrong--the tightie righties

[bevoette]

14. maybe it's that 'circle' theory? if you go far enough in one direction...

you meet the other side? :shrug:

[MADem]

17. It could well be. Either that, or it's the mendacious jerk theory!

Sometimes, people just can't bear to see others who are happy. They have to piss in the Cheerios to feel alive!

[JeffR]

2. Me.

But I'm trying to keep it on the down-low, so please don't tell anyone else.

[cliffordu]

26. I been telling the 'right' people that for some time.....

On the DL, of course.

Discreet is what I am...

[JeffR]

29. I knew I could count on you.

;-)

[ProSense]

3. That's easy:

Anybody who says "Obama is wrong."

[Birthmark]

4. Not infrequently.

Bernie Sanders or Dennis Kucinich.

[Tangerine LaBamba]

5. Hey, that sounds

suspiciously like the GOPig "budget" that was presented the other day by Boner.

As KO put it, "It's like handing in your math homework with no numbers."

So, yes, as I recommended elsewhere, if people are that upset with President Obama and his awful performance these past two months, they should rise up and get him out of office.

Biden would be good, too.

:sarcasm:

[The_Casual_Observer]

6. I'd get up from that campfire, take a piss & retire to my sleeping bag.

What the use arguing with those idiots?

[BlooInBloo]

7. Ah. Another lockstepper.

:P

[opihimoimoi]

8. How so? I did mention the White House makes occasional mistakes

[BlooInBloo]

11. I was just teasing.

[opihimoimoi]

15. LOL,,,,n/p :o)

[MannyGoldstein]

9. Paul Krugman on Economics.

Howard Dean on health care.

And so forth.

[FLAprogressive]

10. I'd just stay away from this thread...and some other ones. They're busy jacking each other off.

Don't stop them....they seem to be having a good time.

[MannyGoldstein]

13. I've Been Hitting The Absinthe Hard Tonight

And am willing and able to joust windmills.

Or maybe even have actual banter, if one of 'em has a evidence-based point to make.

[FLAprogressive]

19. They're just not gonna take it anymore......

....gotta get everyone in line!

[underpants]

12. 1) it is not black and white 2) those opposing him haven't been right about anything in 30 years

and they created the mess we are in

[MannyGoldstein]

16. Krugman's Been RIght About Almost Everything For More Than A Decade

I've been keeping an eye on the good doctor.

[ProSense]

20. Almost

not everything and not that long. He also supported NAFTA.

[MannyGoldstein]

22. NAFTA Wasn't So Bad At All. Almost -Free Trade With China, On The Other Hand...

was a devastating catastrophe. Did Krugman back that? I'd be surprised.

[FLAprogressive]

18. Really? Because the people who've created the mess we're in are working in the adminstration.

See: Larry Summers

[MannyGoldstein]

23. Take That Back

Other than economy-wrecking wholesale financial deregulation, and job-obliterating almost-free trade with China, Summers has been really helpful. Like one time, he warned Clinton as he was about to step in dog poo, which kept the White House from getting stinky.

[FLAprogressive]

24. thank god for Larry.

[Baikonour]

47. Krugman hasn't been right about anything in 30 years?

I understand the argument against republicans being right, but a liberal nobel laureate in economics has never been right in 30 years?

This place is getting out of control.

[Pirate Smile]

21. Everyone one is an expert. Obama has said he usually has to pick between bad and worse.

[orleans]

38. well, if everyone is an expert why doesn't he just cut to the chase and pick the best? n/t

[kentuck]

25. opihimoimoi....

Nobody knows the answer. I think the problem may stem in the fact that Obama is not getting enough advice on this matter? Geithner and Bernanke are not the two individuals that instill automatic trust in making decisions of this magnitude. If he had a couple of other advisers, say a Krugman or a William Greider, then people would at least feel that he is getting all sides of the argument. As it is, people do not totally trust the bankers making the decisions.

[opihimoimoi]

33. I see the President looking for all the help he can get and is being hampered

[elocs]

27. DU is right of course. It's the fount of all knowledge, correctness, and perfection.

Obama would save himself a lot of trouble if he had simply allowed the DUers with all the answers to run the country.

[roody]

28. Bernie Sanders

[dflprincess]

32. That would be so cool

but the corporations that run this country would never let it happen.

[KharmaTrain]

30. Realistic Realities...

I think it's healthy for people to express their conflicts or disappointment with President Obama. Anyone who believed he was gonna be the do all/end all of whatever special interests or hope rather than paying attention to what he was saying deserves the let down. Taking over a government of this size is like trying to park a battleship. It moves slowly and with a lot of resistance. Considering the hole he was left in and the messes that are still being uncovered, the problems of this administration are the most difficult of any I've experienced.

For those who are critical...and again, there are many reasons to be. No administration is perfect and in a hurry up and do nothing world of the beltway. If someone has a criticism, I appreciate when they can come up with a solution or alternative. Otherwise it's just bitchin'.

[No.23]

31. Everyone who didn't vote for either of the two parties...

because they saw a clear difference between cosmetic change and substantive change.

Hopefully, those who didn't, now do too.

[emulatorloo]

34. Karl Marx or Ralph Nader

I guess?!?!

Or Sarah Palin if you swing that way.

[LWolf]

35. These people, to start with:

On Education?

Marion Brady
Jerry Bracey
Stephen Krashen
Alfie Kohn
Peter Sacks
Ted Sizer
Jonathan Kozol

I could make it longer, if you need me to.

On Health Care:

Conyers
Kucinich
Sanders
Dean

and all of these groups:

http://guaranteedhealthcare4all.org/sites/default/files/676-NationalStateLocalEndorsers.pdf

On the Economy:

William Greider
James K. Galbraith
Joseph Stiglitz

and, of course, Krugman ;)

On the "war on terror:"

All of the people in Congress who voted against the IWR and the Patriot Act

All who voted not to further fund the war when given the opportunity.

These are a good start, anyway.

[opihimoimoi]

36. Very good list...... :o)

[LWolf]

40. Glad you like it.

;)

[liberalsince1968]

37. GLENN GREENWALD.

[Hubert Flottz]

39. For one thing he's a HELL of a lot better than anything that

the GOP has had to offer since 1865...

[opihimoimoi]

41. LOL....ya did have to go back to Lincolns Time....

Good to see ya this early in the morn

[geek tragedy]

42. Nader or Hillary or McKinney!!!!! n/t

[shadowknows69]

43. Who is right?

The UN Charter
The Universal Declaration on Human rights
The US Consititution
The US Declaration of Independence, specifically that whole "Life, liberty and the pursuit of Happiness" thing, which in my crazy opinion should include basic housing, a living wage and health care.
The Geneva Conventions
The Nuremburg Trial findings.

The "How to run a fair and just country" manuals are easily accessible to The President.

[opihimoimoi]

44. Who could argue with your list...? Not I said me...

Today...the Pubs are gonna reveal their Details of the Budget Plans they concocted.....lets see whot they got...

[timtom]

45. Kucinich

[opihimoimoi]

46. I like his concepts/ideas/ notions/etc...but he is not being heard enough to be effective

[shadowknows69]

48. And that's by design