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babsbunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 05:45 PM
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“OBAMA IS WRONG: The Loyal Opposition of Paul Krugman.” (Newsweek cover Photo/Story)
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0309/20592.html


A stark image of Paul Krugman, the bearded New York Times op-ed columnist and Princeton economist, appears on the cover of next week’s Newsweek, with the headline “OBAMA IS WRONG: The Loyal Opposition of Paul Krugman.”

Krugman, who won the Nobel Prize in economics last fall, has been arguing that Obama is doing too little to respond to threats to the nation’s banking and economic system, and he has contended that the $787 billion stimulus bill should have been bigger.




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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 05:48 PM
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1. Let him run for office then, maybe he can convince the Congress to make it bigger
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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-29-09 11:42 AM
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16. more politicians is NOT the solution. obama is a politician.
we need statesmen and visionaries, not corporate lackeys.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-29-09 09:49 PM
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19. Oh, so Obama is a corporate lackey now?
"Click" my life is too short to put up with such asinine bullshit.

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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 05:50 PM
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2. Boy... he's gettin out the big guns, eh?
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ArchieStone1 Donating Member (137 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 05:53 PM
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3. I don't think he told Newsweek to put him on the cover
I highly doubt it.
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 05:54 PM
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4. Meanwhile 'back at the ranch,' folks in his own party are saying
not to give the banks ANYTHING!! Break 'em up into small S&L's, they say. Go back to the days before globalization!! Gee Whiz!!:banghead:
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 06:03 PM
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5. I look forward to reading it
Honestly, it's a bit funny to me to read on DU of all places people criticizing a man who criticizes the President of the United States for not being liberal enough. Having said that, my only problem with Krugman lately is that he tends to tell everyone what the administration is doing wrong without actually giving specific examples of how he would do things differently. Hopefully this article will prove me wrong.
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 07:42 PM
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6. He mentions what they are doing right and wrong, as well as provides alternatives
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Mike 03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 07:48 PM
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7. Repost of my response to Krugman, who is one of my heroes: But where is the meat?

Krugman is someone I admire greatly. I've written at least five or six posts praising this educated, eloquent man to the skies over the past six months. I vigorously recommended his latest book (which is in actuality a revision of an earlier book) "The Return of Depression Economics."

Krugman is a brilliant analyst of prior fiscal disasters, especially those in other countries. He's passionate and extremely bright. His analysis of currency fluctuations and the consequences of them is insightful to say the least.

But when it comes to offering his plan for our current disaster, I have to be honest.

Speaking of his new book--a 191 page volume--Krugman reserves his solution for pages 184-191 (and that's stretching it, because a lot of this has to do with long term financial reform rather than solving the "emergency.") Krugman's solution to our current emergency runs from halfway through page 184 to the bottom of page 188.

I turn once against to his solution to this emergency, on page 184, and I'm sure you will agree it's not terribly detailed:

"...we need to deal with the clear and present danger. To do this, policy-makers around the world need to do two things: get credit flowing again and prop up spending..." He goes onto say that "the first task is the harder of the two, but it must be done..."

Short on specifics, totally lacking in helpful advice or even minimalistic details.

He suggests capital injection to unfreeze the credit markets: "The obvious solution is to put in more capital."

It didn't work in Japan for a number of reasons... He doesn't tell us where it has worked.

Okay, yes...and...? "...A financial rescue along similar lines is now underway in the United States and other advanced economies, although it was late in coming, thanks in part to the ideological tilt of the Bush administration..."

Okay, it's too late. It's probably too late to stave off this emergency through rampant recapitalization.

He goes on to write:

"It seems doubtful, however, that ("a recapitalization scheme" as opposed to the "buying up of $700 billion in troubled assets from banks and other financial institutions," which by his own admission he finds useless), will be enough to turn things around for at least three reasons."

So, on page 186 he lists three reasons that recapitalization won't work anyway:

To little relative to GDP.

It's "not clear how much of the bailout will reach the shadow banking system, the core of the problem."

"Third, it's not clear whether banks will be willing to lend out the funds as opposed to sitting on them..."

That's great. That's terribly helpful, especially reason #2.

Dear Mr. Krugman. Since you pinpoint the "Shadow Banking System" as the crux of the problem, what IS the solution to attack this crisis at the root, debilitating and disarming the "shadow banking system" and ending the crisis?

Not a word on that. He drops it like a hot potato.

So he disapproves of buying toxic assets and disapproves of recapitalization. He suggests nationalization. So did I and a number of other DU'ers, but that didn't go over so well, just like it's not going over well with investors or the American people.

He seems to grudgingly approve of a stimulus package:

"The point in all of this is to approach the current crisis in the spirit that we'll do whatever it takes to turn things around; if what has been done so far isn't enough, do more and do something different, until credit starts to flow and the real economy starts to recover.

These are not details.

These are not helpful suggestions.

Although Krugman's analysis of prior foreign financial disasters is priceless, what is he offering in the way of specific advice to our current administration?

Something like this paraphrase from his Bloomberg interview back in December or January?: "I have no idea what it should consist of, but it has to be huge. The world has to believe it will work."

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jimlup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 07:48 PM
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8. Problem with Krugman is...
The rightwing will use his opposition against progressive ideas without noting ...

I understand Krugman's position and actually agree with it BUT ...
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Mike 03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 07:50 PM
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9. Yes, he's full of piss and vinegar, as they say, but I have actually bothered to read his books and
Edited on Sat Mar-28-09 07:52 PM by Mike 03
listen to his interviews, and he has no good ideas. Just criticism.

"It needs to be huge," is an opinion, but it is not helpful.

Even his book, which I have praised here on DU more than once, and studied page by page, has no good advice. It's historically brilliant, but practically useless.

Come on, Paul. Cough it UP! You have the great solution to this incredible disaster? Tell us, Great One.

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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 09:40 PM
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12. Obama said publicly that if Krugman has ideas he should go tell him. So go tell him Paul!
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Mike 03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 08:18 PM
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10. What does that term "Loyal Opposition" mean anyway? Does it mean Krugman is loyal to Obama
but opposes him on this one issue? Because that's not true.

It must mean something else, right?
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 09:31 PM
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11. Krugman is right. Obama is wrong
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pam4water Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 10:29 PM
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13. I agree.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-29-09 11:40 AM
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15. agreed-- and Obama loyalists are demonizing him for it....
eom
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-29-09 04:28 PM
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18. This is an example of why I am no longer affliated w/one party
No matter which party, if someone is wrong, then it should be pointed out.
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 10:31 PM
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14. I was kind of disappointed in the article
I was hoping it would focus more on the policy, but it was more a personal profile of Krugman and what makes him tick/conflicts he has had over the years. That's interesting and all, but I think the article could have had more substance.
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neverforget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-29-09 11:47 AM
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17. Can I like Obama AND Krugman? Is that too much to ask here?
I'm a big picture kind of guy. I like Obama and support most of his policies 100%. I disagree with Obama on Geithner plan because I think he is getting bad advice.
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