Ashcroft: Some forms of waterboarding might be legal

[kpete]

Source: Raw Story

Ashcroft: Some forms of waterboarding might be legal

Is it any surprised that a man who spends free time making sculptures out of barbed wire still does not believe his approval of torturing prisoners was wrong?

"I think history will be very kind to the President," said former Attorney General John Ashcroft, speaking recently at the University of Texas at Austin. "I don't have a mark on my conscience."

Speaking with former Nixon White House counsel John Dean on Thursday night, MSNBC's Keith Olbermann tried to make sense of Ashcroft's justification for signing off on waterboarding.

"There are things that you can call waterboarding that I am thoroughly convinced are not torture," said Ashcroft in a video shot by an attendee at the UT lecture. "There are things that you can call waterboarding that might be torture. And the point that ought to be understood is that throwing a term around recklessly for its emotional content doesn't really get you anywhere."

Read more: http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Ashcroft_Some_forms_of_waterboarding_might_0327.html

[Turbineguy]

1. Like the type done

on him?

[mikeytherat]

2. "I don't have a mark on my conscience." should be "I don't have a conscience."

mikey_the_rat

[sinkingfeeling]

3. Good to see that the 'Bush Rewrite History Tour' is still going strong.

[sabra]

4. Former Bush NSA Stephen Hadley defends torture: "The proof is in the pudding"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=5341568&mesg_id=5341568

[sinkingfeeling]

5. Saw that one this morning.

[Hekate]

6. You first, Mr. Ashcroft -- starting w/ the part where they put a hood over your head & transport you

... God knows where. You first.

Hekate

[damntexdem]

7. Would you care to have it demonstrated on you, Asscrap?

And are there forms of murder that aren't killing?

[Downwinder]

8. Are there forms of killing that aren't murder?? n/t

[DissedByBush]

15. Of course there are

Self-defense for one.

I wouldn't equate that with the torture issue.

[Downwinder]

17. Or killing because your Government told you to do it. n/t

[kouka96792]

9. Yeah, I'm a littlebit pregnant, right?

[LynnTheDem]

10. WRONG.

Fact: waterboarding of ANY kind is TORTURE and ILLEGAL.

[Jefferson23]

11. I love how defensive they are, sweating a little Ashcroft?

PR work for any possible investigation that may be forth coming, nice touch with "no mark on my conscience" line. I guess he threw that in for good measure, only problem is that we already know the limitations of your ethical standards, you schmuck.

[MilesColtrane]

12. "Let the Bullshit Sooooar!"

[DebbieCDC]

16. LOL you beat me to it!!!

[tanyev]

13. Isn't John from the Show-Me State?

If he makes a video having those particular forms demonstrated on him, I will consider his hypothesis.

[dcindian]

14. This will continue until the appeasers in power put a stop to it by jailing the criminals.

My bet is we have set a new direction for the country thanks to the democrats in power. Who is next? Illegal immigrants, non believers? Who will it be next time the republicans return to power?

[Jefferson23]

18. "I am thoroughly convinced are not torture" So this will be the

essence of his defense if he is tried for war crimes perhaps, that torture is all a matter of opinion. Sickening how he phrases it.

[Solly Mack]

19. Snort. Crisco encrusted pile of shit

[KamaAina]

20. In the words of your Maximum Leader, "Who cares what you think?"

Asscroft. :P

[Jeep789]

21. The form we can do to neocons - I hope nt

[LynnTheDem]

22. Gotta give em credit for effort, LOL!!! Sorry ashie, but TORTURE is ILLEGAL.

Period.

In war time, TORTURE is a WAR CRIME.

Period.

Guess what that makes YOU, ashie!

[Kablooie]

23. He's right. Some forms of waterboarding ARE legal, for example ...

[sakabatou]

24. Someone, bring me my clue-by-four!