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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-26-09 09:49 PM
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Looks like the usual suspects are forming a new PNAC with a new name.
It is called the Foreign Policy Initiative. The three involved in the forming appear to be William Kristol, Robert Kagan, and Dan Senor...Campbell Brown's hubby.

POLITICS-US: Neo-Con Ideologues Launch New Foreign Policy Group

WASHINGTON, Mar 25 (IPS) - A newly-formed and still obscure neo-conservative foreign policy organisation is giving some observers flashbacks to the 1990s, when its predecessor staked out the aggressively unilateralist foreign policy that came to fruition under the George W. Bush administration.

The blandly-named Foreign Policy Initiative (FPI) - the brainchild of Weekly Standard editor William Kristol, neo-conservative foreign policy guru Robert Kagan, and former Bush administration official Dan Senor - has thus far kept a low profile; its only activity to this point has been to sponsor a conference pushing for a U.S. "surge" in Afghanistan.

But some see FPI as a likely successor to Kristol’s and Kagan’s previous organisation, the now-defunct Project for the New American Century (PNAC), which they launched in 1997 and which became best known for leading the public campaign to oust former Iraqi president Saddam Hussein both before and after the Sep. 11 attacks.


The old website is still there with many of the original documents. I believe the other day I say the one in which they said that Iraq was the gateway to the Middle East. From 2000.

Project of the New American Century

Here is the direct link to Rebuilding America's Defenses

It is in pdf format. This paragraph says it all.

Indeed, the United States has for decades sought to play a more permanent role in Gulf regional security. While the unresolved conflict with Iraq provides the immediate justification, the need for a substantial American force presence in the Gulf transcends the issue of the regime of Saddam Hussein.


More from the article about the new group called the Foreign Policy Initiative.

FPI was founded earlier this year, but few details are available about the group, which has so far attracted no media attention. The organisation’s website lists Kagan, Kristol, and Senor, who came to prominence as a spokesman for the occupation authorities in Iraq, as the three members of its board of directors.

Two of FPI’s three staffers, policy director Jamie Fly and Christian Whiton, have come directly from foreign policy posts in the Bush administration, while the third, Rachel Hoff, last worked for the National Republican Congressional Committee. Contacted by IPS at the group's office, Fly referred all questions to Senor, who did not return the call.

The organisation’s mission statement argues that the "United States remains the world’s indispensable nation," and warns that "strategic overreach is not the problem and retrenchment is not the solution" to Washington's current financial and strategic woes. It calls for "continued engagement - diplomatic, economic, and military - in the world and rejection of policies that would lead us down the path to isolationism."

The mission statement opens by listing a familiar litany of threats to the U.S., including "rogue states," "failed states," "autocracies" and "terrorism", but gives pride of place to the "challenges" posed by "rising and resurgent powers," of which only China and Russia are named.


And a comment from Steve Clemons of the New America Foundation about the group.

FPI has inevitably drawn comparisons to PNAC, a "letterhead organisation" founded by Kristol and Kagan shortly after their publication in 'Foreign Affairs' of an article entitled "Toward a Neo-Reaganite Foreign Policy" which called for Washington to exercise "benevolent global hegemony" and warned against what they saw as the post-Cold War drift of the Republican Party toward "neoisolationism" after it lost the White House to Bill Clinton.

"This reminds me of the Project for the New American Century," said Steven Clemons, director of the American Strategy Programme at the New America Foundation. "Like PNAC, it will become a watering hole for those who want to see an ever-larger U.S. military machine and who divide the world between those who side with right and might and those who are evil or who would appease evil."


"An ever larger US military machine"

"divide the world between those who side with right and might and those who are evil or who would appease evil."

Be very afraid of these men.






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Another Bill C. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-26-09 09:57 PM
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1. Reminds me of
Pinky: Gee, Brain, what are we going to do tonight?
Brain: The same thing we do every night, Pinky - try to take over the world!
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-26-09 10:00 PM
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2. And here is there new URL... hmmm
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-26-09 10:16 PM
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5. Thanks, I had looked for that.
:hi:
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-26-09 10:01 PM
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3. And if their cohorts from the Bush administration aren't prosecuted
they will come back and be worse than ever.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-29-09 01:43 AM
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8. You are right.
and I fear they won't be prosecuted or even investigated.
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KakistocracyHater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-29-09 02:31 AM
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9. bingo! I hear Obama rumored to 'move forward'
& not look back & that was a horrifying mistake made by Clinton, those Iran-Contra perps DID grab the reins of power & made an even bigger mess than their 80s stint. If they go free.....
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 01:55 PM
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17. yep, that's what Clinton did regarding BCCI & Iran contra and what did we get?
WAR CRIMES, ENDLESS WAR, A DEVASTATED ECONOMY AND VERY WEALTHY WAR PROFITEERS. You must look back if you want to move forward!
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 09:59 PM
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21. It's a mistake that started with FDR
when he didn't demand that Prescott Bush and his other Nazi sympathizer buddies be tried for treason.

It was a mistake Johnson made when he allowed JFK's assassination to be covered up and a mistake Carter made when he didn't go after any residual Watergate crooks.

They get a way with it again and again and each time they come back worse than ever (sorry to keep repeating that).
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 07:32 AM
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26. Absolutely. the same bunch of robber barons:
1934: The Plot Against America
DEPARTMENTNo CommentBYScott HortonPUBLISHEDJuly 28, 2007
I’m back from the land of heather and thistles, not to mention wee drams and lukewarm ale, but on my way out a friend at the BBC alerted me to this, a not-to-miss program on the BBC this morning, accessible over the next several days by internet. It’s the story of the Plot Against America. I don’t mean the Philip Roth novel, nor even the Sinclair Lewis book, It Can’t Happen Here, but rather the historical events upon which these two works of fiction were based.

In November 1934, federal investigators uncovered an amazing plot involving some two dozen senior businessmen, a good many of them Wall Street financiers, to topple the government of the United States and install a fascist dictatorship. Roth’s novel is developed from several strands of this factual account; he assumed the plot is actually carried out, whereas in fact an alert FDR shut it down but stopped short of retaliatory measures against the plotters. A key element of the plot involved a retired prominent general who was to have raised a private army of 500,000 men from unemployed veterans and who blew the whistle when he learned more of what the plot entailed. The plot was heavily funded and well developed and had strong links with fascist forces abroad. A story in the New York Times and several other newspapers reported on it, and a special Congressional committee was created to conduct an investigation. The records of this committee were scrubbed and sealed away in the National Archives, where they have only recently been made available.

The Congressional committee kept the names of many of the participants under wraps and no criminal action was ever brought against them. But a few names have leaked out. And one is Prescott Bush, the grandfather of the incumbent president. Prescott Bush was of course deep into the business of the Hamburg-America Lines, and had tight relations throughout this period with the new Government that had come to power in Germany a year earlier under Chancellor Aldoph Hitler. It appears that Bush was to have formed a key liaison for the group with the new German government.

Prescott Bush, of course, went on to service as a U.S. Senator from Connecticut, and his son, George H.W. Bush emerged from World War II as a hero.

-snip

http://www.harpers.org/archive/2007/07/hbc-90000651





The Whitehouse Coup
Monday 23 July 2007



The coup was aimed at toppling President Franklin D Roosevelt with the help of half-a-million war veterans. The plotters, who were alleged to involve some of the most famous families in America, (owners of Heinz, Birds Eye, Goodtea, Maxwell Hse & George Bush’s Grandfather, Prescott) believed that their country should adopt the policies of Hitler and Mussolini to beat the great depression.

Mike Thomson investigates why so little is known about this biggest ever peacetime threat to American democracy.




http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/document/document_20070723.shtml
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 10:57 PM
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22. Then Obama is violating the Constitution. He needs to do his fucking job.
NT!

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deaniac21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-26-09 10:01 PM
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4. C O N S P I R A C Y !!!!!!!!!!
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Kool Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-26-09 10:47 PM
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6. I wonder if this is gonna get yakked up real pretty
on Campbell Brown's stunner of a show-Dan Senor is her hubby, right?
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-27-09 11:36 AM
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7. I doubt that seriously.
Probably never be mentioned at all.

:hi:
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bottomtheweaver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-29-09 03:12 AM
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10. "United States remains the world's indispensable nation"
Edited on Sun Mar-29-09 03:13 AM by bottomtheweaver
But indispensable to whom?
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-29-09 03:39 AM
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11. Isn't that sweet; they still care. Well folks, let's be sure to keep a DU eye on them ...
... from time to time.

Hekate


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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 01:18 PM
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12. Great coverage on this at the Wonk Room.
Project For The Rehabilitation Of Neoconservatism

"What do you do if your previous organization — and the ideology behind it — has become inextricably bound in the public’s imagination to one of the worst foreign policy blunders in American history? Obviously, shut it down, and start a new organization with a new name.

The Foreign Policy Initiative lists Robert Kagan, Bill Kristol, and Dan Senor on its board of directors, so no prizes for guessing what they’re about (more power, less appeasement, stronger wills.) Kagan and Kristol need no introduction, they’re the Tick and Arthur of disastrously counterproductive military adventurism. Given the staggering costs in American blood, treasure, security, and reputation incurred by their boundless enthusiasm for blowing stuff up, you might think they’d have had the decency to retreat to a Tibetan monastery by now, but sadly no. The way it works in Washington is, if you’re willing to argue for more defense spending, you’ll always find someone willing to fund your think tank.

Dan Senor is less known to the general public, but familiar to those who’ve followed the Iraq debacle closely. From 2003 to 2004, Senor served as a Coalition Provisional Authority spokesman under Paul Bremer. After that smashing success, Senor returned to Washington, where, among other things, in September 2004 he helped write speeches for Iraqi interim prime minister Ayad Allawi’s U.S. visit, and then apparently went on television to praise those speeches as evidence of Bush’s accomplishments in Iraq."

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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 01:31 PM
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13. The real money quote from Rebuilding America's Defenses
Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event – like a new Pearl Harbor. (p. 63 of the PDF)

Remember, that's from 2000. :tinfoilhat:
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 01:40 PM
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14. A "new pearl harbor"
Forgot that was in the document.

Well, they got it, didn't they?
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 01:50 PM
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15. They needed that new Pearl harbor to impliment....
...the radical foreign policy agenda they had been planning since GHB was in office and, presto chango!, they got it.

What a co-inki-dink! It's funny how those things happen, no?
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 01:53 PM
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16. Not to mention the radical domestic policy agenda
wiretapping of citizens, searches all over the place, etc. :scared:
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 01:59 PM
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18. kick
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pggo08 Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 03:41 PM
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19. WASHINGTON — President Obama’s nominee for secretary of the Navy
...WASHINGTON — President Obama’s nominee for secretary of the Navy was involved in a divorce that drew national attention for his secret taping of a conversation between his wife and his family priest that he used against her in court proceedings.....

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/30/us/politics/30mabus.html

If he cheated on his taxes he is a shoe-in.
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 11:27 PM
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23. What does this have to do with anything, moran?
From the very article you referenced:

An expert psychiatric witness for Mr. Mabus referred to Ms. Hines’s recorded comments as evidence that he should get legal custody of the couple’s two daughters. The judge in the case awarded legal custody to Mr. Mabus and split physical custody between him and Ms. Hines.

After the ruling, Ms. Hines, who expressed regret for her comments, sued Mr. McBride, his church and the Episcopal Diocese of Mississippi, alleging malpractice and fraud. She did not sue Mr. Mabus, who broke no laws by recording the meeting.



You are full of FAIL.

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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 09:36 PM
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20. good Lord, they remind me of Nazis making their little groups of hatred and giving
themselves titles within their organizations. Sorta like the masons and such... makes them feel important...

Grand Criminal Dickwads!
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 05:47 AM
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24. It's good to track these monsters.
They are pure evil.
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yellowwood Donating Member (550 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 06:21 AM
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25. Thank You for the Heads-Up
Just like the National Intelligence Agencies need to track foreign enemies, we need to keep track of these neocons within our borders. Whereever William Kristol and Robert Kagan are involved, bad things will follow.
Here is the very best site for tracking these people and their cohorts: Please take a look. Very well documented.
http://rightweb.irc-online.org
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