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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 05:35 PM Original message |
THERE'S NO REASON FOR MORTGAGES! IT'S ECONOMIC TYRANNY! |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 05:49 PM Response to Original message |
1. I pay cash for my cars, |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 06:07 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. Do you pay property taxes? |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 06:14 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Yep. Have homestead exemption in my state |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 06:16 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Lucky you, it's not like that in most cities. |
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TheBigotBasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 06:22 PM Response to Reply #7 |
13. Land / Property Value taxes are not progressive. |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 06:37 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. I have to agree, but my proposal is just a way to help them out with property taxes. |
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madville (743 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 08:48 PM Response to Reply #14 |
20. They love to tax us, and tax us, and tax us |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 08:55 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. And the problem is that it doesn't all go the actual people who do the work. |
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angstlessk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 08:18 PM Response to Reply #7 |
17. my taxes are about 2,000 per year... |
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angstlessk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 05:50 PM Response to Original message |
2. here's my story...i own my home outright...had to move to Detroit to do that |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 06:08 PM Response to Reply #2 |
8. It's good to see you're smart... |
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angstlessk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 08:23 PM Response to Reply #8 |
18. we came very close to getting a loan on our home...we did all the paperwork..but did not submit it |
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willing dwarf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 05:52 PM Response to Original message |
3. It's been this way in the capitalist system for a long long time |
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grasswire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 05:59 PM Response to Original message |
4. it has been kind of surprising.... |
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onethatcares (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 06:01 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. only since the price of a car became what was the price of a house |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 09:18 PM Response to Reply #5 |
27. Which in part happened because of the easy credit.. n/t |
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Johonny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 06:04 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. I've always bought my cars outright |
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Patchuli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 09:52 PM Response to Reply #6 |
29. That is exactly why I can't ever come home to L.A. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 06:17 PM Response to Original message |
11. If I didn't have about 1/5 of my income going to taxes, I could have paid my house off years ago |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 06:20 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. How much do your managers and investors tax you? |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 09:25 AM Response to Reply #12 |
61. No, I paid about 13,000 in taxes (not including sales tax) and about $6,000 in interest on all debts |
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TheBigotBasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 07:36 PM Response to Original message |
15. People became addicted to an |
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OnionPatch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 07:43 PM Response to Original message |
16. And the worst part is, you really have to pay for it twice or more. |
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Peace_Sells (130 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 08:36 PM Response to Original message |
19. car outright |
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Kitty Herder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 08:52 PM Response to Original message |
21. Hear, hear! |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 09:02 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. Especially these days with asset back securities... |
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Swede (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 08:56 PM Response to Original message |
23. If people where taught finances in school,things would be better. |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 09:04 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. Very true, but even the people who can add have to get a mortgage... |
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Swede (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 09:22 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. Mortgage is a kind of forced saving. |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 07:22 AM Response to Reply #28 |
39. Except when the value of the asset decreases, |
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shireen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 01:22 AM Response to Reply #23 |
31. i'm in the same situation |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 09:57 AM Response to Reply #31 |
62. shireen, I'm willing to bet we all screwed up when we were |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 10:01 AM Response to Reply #62 |
63. edit:: sorry, I meant the 'nineties.' |
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shireen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 11:09 AM Response to Reply #62 |
66. thanks Fire1 |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 09:06 PM Response to Original message |
26. I decided in 1982... |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-25-09 11:07 PM Response to Original message |
30. And then there is the forced insurance on the shit you borrowed to buy. |
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No.23 (517 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 01:49 AM Response to Original message |
32. So true. I just like to say it another way: |
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Usrename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 04:46 AM Response to Original message |
33. We need to cast out the userers. |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 06:01 AM Response to Original message |
34. Take a deep breath, calm down and rent the movie, "It's a Wonderful Life" |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 07:16 AM Response to Reply #34 |
37. Bullshit, that's how a credit union works, not a fractional reserve bank. |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 07:22 AM Response to Reply #37 |
40. How did I guess before this post that I was dealing with a Ron Paul anti Fed fanatic? |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 07:34 AM Response to Reply #40 |
41. Yeah, and I should be cool with people lending my money out to others for their profit? |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 07:44 AM Response to Reply #41 |
42. I hope you don't just ignore the post and read it... |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 07:52 AM Response to Reply #41 |
44. And I have an idea for a car completely powered by hundreds of hamsters on treadmills |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 07:57 AM Response to Reply #44 |
46. Instead of a BS post, why don't you refute what I'm saying? |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 08:09 AM Response to Reply #46 |
51. Come on you little banker troll, let's have it. |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 07:51 AM Response to Reply #40 |
43. Considering you were a HUGE bailout cheerleader last fall, I'm not surprised at your posts. |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 07:55 AM Response to Reply #43 |
45. Another Ron Paul/vast Jewish conspiracy fanatic |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 08:00 AM Response to Reply #45 |
47. WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 08:12 AM Response to Reply #47 |
53. When Zeitgeist says "international bankers" Rothschilde & Morgenthau took control of the world... |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 08:18 AM Response to Reply #53 |
54. I think the gold bugs are really a bunch of idiots. |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 11:26 AM Response to Reply #53 |
67. You obviously have NOT watch the entire film. Enlighten & educate yourself before |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 11:28 AM Response to Reply #67 |
68. Why not answer the question? When someone says "international bankers" Rothschilde and Morganthau |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 11:52 AM Response to Reply #68 |
70. Again, you did not watch the entire movie or you would not bring up all this crap. |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 08:08 AM Response to Reply #45 |
50. WTF?! Who said a fucking thing about Jewish people or Ron Paul?! |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 08:09 AM Response to Reply #50 |
52. I really have no clue where the claims of anti-Semitism came from. |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 08:21 AM Response to Reply #52 |
55. Talk like that really muddies the waters and shuts discussion down cold doesn't it? |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 08:24 AM Response to Reply #55 |
57. It's easier to write someone of as an anti-Semite... |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 08:50 AM Response to Reply #57 |
60. I'm just as surprised by the broad brush... |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 06:25 AM Response to Original message |
35. The absurdity of how humans get and defend territory is |
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Aragorn43 (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 06:55 AM Response to Original message |
36. Car Dealers Take Out Loans |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 07:21 AM Response to Reply #36 |
38. I know, that's the problem. |
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Aragorn43 (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 01:57 PM Response to Reply #38 |
72. Credit got me in trouble |
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Orwellian_Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 08:03 AM Response to Original message |
48. Indentured servitude |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 08:06 AM Response to Original message |
49. Al Gore wanted to do away with Income Tax and have a Carbon Tax instead. |
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EmilyAnne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 08:21 AM Response to Original message |
56. Actually, even the very wealthy have mortgages. Just really big, fat mortgages on really big, |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 08:26 AM Response to Reply #56 |
58. Right now, yes, but not normally. |
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EmilyAnne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 08:47 AM Response to Reply #58 |
59. When my father-in-law died suddenly, he left a big confusing mess of investments and accounts. |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 10:25 AM Response to Reply #59 |
64. Yeah, I remember back in the nineties the meme from |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
65. So what, exactly, |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 11:41 AM Response to Original message |
69. What In The World Are You Even Talking About? There's Little Rationality That I Could Find In The |
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Raskolnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 12:02 PM Response to Original message |
71. How do you propose people buy a house? |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 02:21 PM Response to Original message |
73. So people should rent and suffer the economic tyranny of landlords? |
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wroberts189 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-26-09 07:41 PM Response to Original message |
74. I wish I could borrow money from the fed at 1% like banks do. nt |
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