***Official Senate Judiciary Comm Thread THREE - Kyle Sampson****

[Eurobabe]

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Thread One:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=530752&mesg_id=531071

Thread Two:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=531096&mesg_id=531096

[Cameron27]

1. K&R

Thank you 48

[L. Coyote]

46. How do you spell "Email-gate" or what is this anyway?

Working on this for the last 24 hours, the summary, DU posts, articles, much more:

Email-Gate FACTS: Felons, georgewbush.com, gwb43.com , et. al.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x523978

"This is a complex and entangled story that connects a lot of scandals. Some of the players are already in jail!!"

[Solly Mack]

2. Thank you!!!!

[Eurobabe]

3. Specter: serious questions about other issues, NSLs & civil liberties, role of ROVE

we ought to hear from him. Get to bottom of these things. Who ought to stay, who ought to go.

[annabanana]

4. Mentions the invite to Rove & Meiers

[Norquist Nemesis]

5. Thanks! K/R (Hard to believe there's already THREE!)

[Eurobabe]

8. yeah this thread needs a full time administrator!!

LOL

[Cameron27]

6. Specter wants Rove to testify sooner than later.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

7. Thanks again! Recommended! nt

[Solly Mack]

9. "I don't see how we can function without a transcript"

[Solly Mack]

18. Oh no...Bush is never right...never has been and never will be

He just hides behind the rules that can protect him and breaks, bends, and distorts the parts that don't

[Cameron27]

10. President is wrong for not wanting a transcript.

...I don't think an oath is indispensable

[bobthedrummer]

11. Elizabeth CHENEY, Kyle Sampson's law school "friend" got him

hooked up in DC

Kyle Sampson profile from TalkLeft.com
http://www.talkleft.com/story/2007/3/18/111740/107

[Eurobabe]

12. Specter: public has right to know but that is NEGOTIABLE, (WTF??)

I don't think so Arlen.

[robinlynne]

119. I think Specter is negotiable. Why isn't he on the witness stand?

[SaveAmerica]

13. Hearings in public - Nixon anyone?

[seafan]

14. Specter: "We don't know whether Carol Lam was fired b/c she was hot on the trail of

Duke Cunningham's confederates."

[loudsue]

19. Bingo, Specter!

:kick::kick:

[seafan]

56. Sara Taylor was director of WH office of Political Affairs, that reported to Rove, who

reported to the president.

Candy Wolf headed the WH office of legal affairs.

(Sampson said)

[EVDebs]

Sure we do...

FBI probes Watergate prostitution allegations
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12634250/

"It's all part of a growing ongoing investigation into corruption in defense and intelligence contracts, which already has sent former Rep. Randy “Duke” Cunningham to prison and, legal sources say, may threaten others in Congress and the CIA. "

The Lam investigations started when ? About the same time as this replacement program begins...and the CIA AND GOP Congress are up in arms to STOP the inevitable truth from coming out. Blowback's a bitch.

[annabanana]

15. Sessions up. . (blecch)

[quiet.american]

17. How long before he uses the phrase "partisan fishing expedition." n/t

[Norquist Nemesis]

Don't forget 'witch hunt'!

[Beelzebud]

28. Partisan Fishing Witch-Hunt Expedition

Sounds like a Butthole Surfers or Camper Van Beethoven album title. :D

[Eurobabe]

16. Sessions: giving his life history at DOJ

:boring:

[Beelzebud]

24. He's very important! Just ask him, he'll tell you!

[annabanana]

20. Sessions "USAs are removable..we know that is legitimate (mentions immigration)

[rusty charly]

21. Is there such a thing as "Congressional Priviledge"?

[helderheid]

22. thanks for these threads!

:hi:

[Eurobabe]

23. Sessions: Sampson, I feel you understood the difficulty of removing US Attnys.

Serve at the pleasure of the President (yes we know asshole!)

[Solly Mack]

25. Ick...Sessions

putui
blech
yuck

[opusprime]

26. I want someone to callout Specter for the Patriot Act provision...

embarrass his ass in front of the world.

[LSK]

27. Sessions: Who would prosecute immigration cases

Ok, we know who the softballer is now. Like there was any doubt.

[Solly Mack]

32. that ball is so soft it's made from playdoh

[Inuca]

29. FYI it can also be streamed

on MSNBC http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17852146/ better quality video than CSPAN

[Beelzebud]

48. Thanks, thats much better. Can even watch it full-screen.

[Eurobabe]

30. Sessions: Senate must confirm them, you noted P.A. issue (appting without Sen. conf)

I think you are sensitive to those problems.

[annabanana]

31. "we must all be steeled to withstand political blowback"

[Cameron27]

33. Sessions:

Everyone serves at the pleasure of the President...

we know that is a legitmate thing...

President must have the ability to control that.

Perhaps if you had been listened to, we wouldn't be in the fix we're in now.

[IChing]

34. Sessions is saying that Sampson was sensitive

on the firings of the attorney.

[Eurobabe]

35. JS: AG deserves a fair shake

[annabanana]

36. Kyle has no documents with him

[donco6]

58. Common tactic.

If you don't bring 'em, they can't ask for them. At least, not while you're there.

[rusty charly]

37. we're ALL hoping the truth will come out

kyle brought no documents. pretty lawyerly, huh?

[Eurobabe]

38. Leahy: did you bring any documents with you? Anything that has not been turned over to us?

[Norquist Nemesis]

39. "Suitable replacements must be made with consultation of home state senators"

except where the home state has Democratic senators, then it's the GOP state official. He conveniently omits that little piece of info.

[in_cog_ni_to]

40. Arlen, I snuck in the provison in the Patriot Act to help you bypass the Senate, Specter is speaking

WHY is Specter questioning the provision that HE put in the Patriot Act? HE DID IT HIMSELF! Didn't he? WTF?

[IChing]

52. The memory hole for the consumption of the masses

Specter is a smooth talking devil and co-conspirator.

[Flarney]

53. Specter claims it was slipped in by a staffer w/o his knowledge... n/t

[Beelzebud]

57. It was placed there by a Magic Bullet.

[IChing]

LOL n/t

[IChing]

Is that staffer fired? Specter takes no responciblity like a Republican

[annabanana]

41. Kyle is answering Leahey now

[Cameron27]

42. Leahy asking for documents

[annabanana]

43. Leahy is going to go through documents.. probably to "prompt his memory"

[Eurobabe]

44. Leahy: Copy of document, OAG file # 12/4/06 email exchange Kelly, we're a go for US Att. plan

[Solly Mack]

45. I'm not aware...I can't recall...I didn't know...

LMAO

[annabanana]

47. Asking about Sarah Taylor's responsibilities

[Norquist Nemesis]

51. Who's Sarah Taylor? (never mind) Dir. of WH Political Affairs

Now going through a list of people...Candy Wolfe, Dana Perinno...

What??? No Dan Bartlett? No Karl Rove?

[Name removed]

49. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[annabanana]

50. Who headed the WH legal operation? answer Candy Wolfe

[Solly Mack]

54. He can't answer anything without a pre-planned answer that was prepared

by others before he got there

[annabanana]

55. 11/15 email: You told Meier's that you hadn't told anyone in Karl's shop

(a prerequisite, apparently)

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

60. "Karl's Shop" ..... lovely...... eom

[Eurobabe]

59. Leahy: had you discussed the replacement plan by 11/15 with AG? Yes

[annabanana]

61. leahy is confronting Sampson with how everything was run past the politcal guys

[Cameron27]

62. Leahy:

was it circulated to Karl's shop. Yes it was.

[Solly Mack]

63. Dude is tip-toeing

[Beelzebud]

64. Sampson is starting to look nervous and uncomfortable.

[PCIntern]

67. Tick tick tick...

something's going to happen, methinks.

[Eurobabe]

65. Leahy: who approved this plan? KS: I don't know

[annabanana]

66. i dunno idunno idunno (re Did WH sign off on this?)

[Beelzebud]

69. Wouldn't it be great if he just totally flipped out? :)

I DUNNO I DUNNO I DUNNO

PLEASE LEAVE ME ALONE, SIR, I DON'T REMEMBER!!!!

:)

lol

[Eurobabe]

68. Do these CONS ever remember anything? Except these things harm their families??

[annabanana]

70. I don't remember ,, but it looks like I did. . . lol

[LSK]

71. Cons do not seem to know that things get recorded

[LSK]

78. do you have many other Karls spelled with a K?

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[seafan]

72. Leahy: Do you know if the president was told of this plan to replace the USAs?

S: I don't know.

[Norquist Nemesis]

79. And if he wasn't told...

now about that Executive Privilege.

[soothsayer]

73. "I don't remember if I talked with the WH. It was thanksgiving, and

I was full of trypophan" (ok, he didn't mention the tryptophan)

[annabanana]

74. Karl was clearly running the show on this

[Beelzebud]

75. The piggy is starting to sweat... "I didn't remember until I looked at this document"

[alcibiades_mystery]

76. "I don't remember..." "I don't remember..." "I don't remmber..."

Jesus, buddy. This shit happened six months ago.

Why do we have all these feeble minded idiots in government? :sarcasm:

I remember meetings I had in temp jobs while on summer break from college 15 years ago. This guy claims not to remember meetings from October of last year.

[Eurobabe]

PL: Karl would like to know how to field these calls?

After Ryan had been asked to resign.

[Solly Mack]

77. "I didn't remember this until looking at this document right now"

LMAO

This lap dog is everything I thought he would be

[Beelzebud]

81. LOL This is getting good. Now he's just sitting there reading. lol

[annabanana]

80. I don't remember nothing

[annabanana]

82. Spectre up. . "I have 2 questions"

[annabanana]

85. Wree they fired because they were prosecuting that which they shouldn't

[AndyA]

83. Sampson is trying to lie, but can't.

He keeps changing his responses.

He wants to lie, he's trying to lie, but he just can't always do it.

[in_cog_ni_to]

84. Gotcha! Was that Karl Rove? "I think so." Leahy..How many Karl's do you..."It must have been K Rove.

[Beelzebud]

Yeah, this fucker set up his own trap and then walked into it. LOL

[seafan]

95. Leahy: Was that Rove?

L: Was that Karl Rove?

S: I don't know.

L: How many Karls, spelled with a "K" are there.....

S: I'm sorry, Senator. It must've been Rove.

[soothsayer]

86. "Well I wish you DID remember. Search your memory when we

come back to this. It would be most helpful." says leahey

[Solly Mack]

87. Poor things. All those memory problems

LMAO

[Beelzebud]

94. This administration should start tatooing important things on themselves like the movie Memento. :)

[Solly Mack]

100. LMAO!! I can just see it...dropping their pants to read their thighs

[Beelzebud]

105. "I didn't remember this until I read my right buttock, sir." LOL

[Solly Mack]

107. "Can you please tell me what it says on my back?"

[WinkyDink]

114. Well, that WOULD be close to his head!

[Eurobabe]

88. Specter: was any USA asked to resign because they were pursuing top leads on corruption

[Eurobabe]

101. Specter: asking about Lam's connection after pursuing (Cunningham case)

KS: No Lam asked to resign, sole problem re: immigration cases

[annabanana]

89. Spectre has Lamm question.. was there a connection?

[bobthedrummer]

90. Karl's shop e-mails went through Susan Ralston, Barry Jackson, Ken Mehlman,

Ruben Barrales, Jennifer Farley-all known to have been Jack Abramoff WH contacts by the House Oversight Committee
http://oversight.house.gov/abramoff/index2.asp

DoJ Asst. AG Alice S. Fisher was in charge of the DoJ Abramoff investigation, she's a loyal Bushie too
Alice S. Fisher SourceWatch.org profile
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Alice_S._Fisher

[sazemisery]

91. Alzheimer's is rampant in the Bush Administration

[annabanana]

92. "Therre was no question in my mind".. Spectre "It was a coincidenc?"

[quiet.american]

93. Answer: No, Senator there was not. (Come on, Specter.) n/t

[annabanana]

96. Sampson claims it was immigration that got Lamm canned. .

[mmonk]

102. Standard RW talking point.

[WiseButAngrySara]

the only thing that's canned is a canned response. ...n/t

[quiet.american]

104. I hope Leahy brings up the emails that show WH comm dir. advising "immigration" as the frame. n/t

[quiet.american]

131. Did you catch that? Sampson refused to say no political motivations involved while under oath.

Paraphrasing: Specter asked him if he was prepared to say, while under oath, that none of the attorney firings were done in order to derail investigations. Yes or no question. Sampson's response:

Paraphrasing: That's my understanding of the situtation.

[annabanana]

97. Now New Mexico question

[Cameron27]

98. They're going to have to turn this guy on his head

and shake the info out.

[LSK]

99. What was the real problem with Lam??? Immigration cases...

[annabanana]

103. Iglesias added at last minute (election day)

[annabanana]

106. Sampson thinks it was a coincidence (the non-prosecution for election)

[eleny]

108. His memory just got a whole lot better

[IChing]

113. I don't recall and don't remember why do you say that?

[Beelzebud]

116. What were we talking about? Where am I? What day is this?

[eleny]

118. He's answering Sen. Specter with a lot more detail

[displacedtexan]

112. And don't forget the old "In My Mind" defense.

Classic!

[annabanana]

109. need new thread!

[WiseButAngrySara]

110. Self Righteous little LIAR. He and KKK remind me of little piggies. n/t

[Norquist Nemesis]

111. Mid-October was the "process" for reviewing. When did Domenici

make that call to Iglesius?

[Cameron27]

115. I don't think Gonzo was accurate

(regarding his statement at news conference)

[Norquist Nemesis]

125. Yeah, basically he lies to the American People

now it's going to be a question of whether he's lied to any of the Senators either one-on-one or before them in a hearing.

[WiseButAngrySara]

117. Patriot Act Provision and DOJ coming up...n/t

[MaineDem]

120. "Gonzales was involved in discussing the firings..."

Here we go, Alberto.

[seafan]

121. Re: Iglesias added to "list" on election day, Nov. 7

Specter: Iglesias was added to list on November 7, 2006 (election day) Was this because of any prosecution that he did not carry out?

S: (jumbled answer)



Specter: Are you prepared to swear under oath that no USA was fired for not carrying out a prosecution?

S: To my knowledge, that is the case.. (What kind of an answer is that???)

[IChing]

122. Specter talking about the Patriot Act provision

why they utilized something he himself put into the ACT

[Eurobabe]

123. THREAD FOUR UP

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x531606

[WiseButAngrySara]

129. Thanks and KNR! ....n/t

[WiseButAngrySara]

124. Defending Gonzales. ....n/t

[annabanana]

126. Kyle claiming that AG didn't like the Patriot Act work around

no email to back that statement up..

[WinkyDink]

127. I liked Specter's "Okaaaaaayyy," in response to KS's "no connection to corruption."

[Greybnk48]

132. He also reminded him he was under oath

and the little twit blinked--I saw it!!

[Cameron27]

128. He's passing it down to the staff

he just made the recommendation, but not adopted by AG or Miers.

No confirmation by email of that.

[Cameron27]

130. Leahy pointing out that it WAS used.

[The empressof all]

133. locking

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