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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 12:46 PM
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PBS: Dean on NOW says if we don't get healthcare this time, we don't get rehired.
I don't know when the show airs, I assume this week. As usual it is not on in our area for that episode that I can find. It is not on either PBS channel we get.

Here is the partial transcript from NOW with Howard Dean and David Brancaccio. Website says video will follow, so I will have to wait for that.

Howard Dean about Medicaid and the future of health care in America.

He speaks of expanding Medicaid as part of Universal Health Care for people under 25. He makes it clear he learned that privatizing the program costs more...he learned from his mistake in Vermont.

To those here unclear about the difference between Medicare and Medicaid...everyone automatically goes on Medicare at age 65. Medicaid is needs based.

DB: When you were governor of Vermont, you built upon Medicaid in your home state to get a lot of people covered.

HD: The truth is there's no excuse for not covering people under 18 in this country. It's insane not to because if you don't, you pay for all that stuff later on when they turn 30 or 40 or 50 or 60. You can use Medicaid as one of the building blocks of universal health insurance. And we certainly ought to do it for people probably under 25.

..."DB: Would you increase money for Medicaid during this difficult period temporarily or would you make it permanent?

HD: I would make it permanent. We need a universal health care system in this country. We don't have one. We're the only industrialized democracy in the world that doesn't have one, and we pay a fortune because we don't have one.

HD: We're losing jobs to Canada because Canadian companies don't bear the tremendous inflationary costs of their health care system, and our companies do. Look at the automobile companies right now. They're suffering enormously and what's the biggest problem? Retiree health care. We are killing our own companies by not having a health care system that works for everybody, and we have to stop that.


Dean also said: "We end up paying almost twice as much as the next country because of our incredible inefficiency. America is a very efficient country, except in health care where we are the most inefficient country. And we cover the fewest—percentage wise—of our population compared to any other country in the industrialized world."

More of the interview:

DB: There's a public perception that Medicaid is wasteful, that it's a government program with corruption in it and a lot of bureaucratic overhead. That's not your understanding?

HD: When I was governor, I had a big fight on the left as well as on the right when we put through universal health care. So we contracted out our Medicaid program to be administered by a private insurance company. After three years, we had to take it back because the expenses associated with our running Medicaid was about four percent. And the expenses by the private insurance company were 12 percent. The truth is the private sector does not do a good job running health care. They just don't. I don't say that because I don't like the private sector. I was part of the private sector. My wife is part of the private sector delivering health care. But the numbers are clear: One-third of the cost is what's spent by Medicare and Medicaid in administration costs compared to private health care concerns.


I agree with Dean completely when he said this in the interview:

DB: Do you think we'll be able to be successful at health care reform this time around?

HD: I hope so. We have a huge Democratic majority in both the House and the Senate. We've got a Democratic president who's promised and campaigned on universal health care. There's no excuse for it. If the Democrats don't do it, we probably won't get hired again.


We need to remember that the ones who have been working behind closed doors for months on this health care issue may have their own best interests in mind.


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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 12:56 PM
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1. I like his idea of Medicaid up to age 25,
Currently, full-time college students can stay on their parents' plans, which is unfair to young people who don't go to college (the majority of them, BTW). Most jobs that are available to young people don't have benefits and don't pay well enough for them to afford individual policies.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 03:26 PM
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13. I agree. n/t
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 12:56 PM
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2. In this case, their self-interest coincides with our best interests.
I doubt any of us would be bitching, no matter what the "real" reason behind the (D) Congress passing universal health care might be.

Regardless, if we want it, we're going to have to work like hell between now and 2010 to get more Dems elected.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 01:00 PM
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4. I am concerned about Medicare and Medicaid being phased out.
We all should be. They speak of a new public plan. Why not keep what we have and build upon it?

I will be "bitching" if they do mandatory insurance.
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 01:17 PM
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6. Mandatory insurance and they'll be deafened by our screams.
And yes, the framework is already in place. Even the names fit. If it ain't broke... expand upon it.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 09:29 PM
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22. Loud screams.
:hi:
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 12:59 PM
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3. K&R
It's sad (telling) that Dean seems to be the only Dem speaking out on this
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 02:24 PM
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10. I think you are right. No one else really is saying much at all.
:hi:
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 01:04 PM
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5. recommend
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 01:31 PM
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7. I certainly cannot add to the discussion anything more than Dean has said
But want to keep this topic Kicked.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 01:33 PM
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8. Appreciated. Is the show on Fri. night usually on PBS?
Our PBS channels just carry it when they choose, they like they do with Moyer.
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newtothegame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 02:23 PM
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9. Does anyone know why the auto industry agreed to retiree healthcare in the first place?
If everyone goes on Medicaid at 65? :shrug: No other industry seems to do it that way; I don't get it?
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kaygore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 03:21 PM
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11. You can watch PBs' "Now" on your computer
http://www.pbs.org/now/shows/512/index.html
From PBS.org:

Week of 3.20.09
Gambling With Health Care


How the economic collapse is creating a health care calamity.

Losing your job is a blow not just to your income, but also to your health insurance. Many can't afford high COBRA premiums, much less private insurance. And the sputtering economy is making a bad situation tragic.

NOW travels to Nevada, where a huge budget deficit, spiking unemployment, and cuts in Medicaid and other public services are forcing people to gamble with their own lives. Recently, the only public hospital in Las Vegas had to shut its doors to cancer patients and pregnant women. Should the government be helping out?

NOW shares the human stories behind the distressing numbers, and investigates possible solutions and responses with insight from Dr. Howard Dean, former Vermont governor and chairman of the Democratic National Committee.

With the economic disaster blowing holes in society's health care safety net, who's left to catch our fall?
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 03:25 PM
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12. Still waiting for the video to show up. What is the usual night for NOW
since our area if it carries it usually has it around 3 am in the morning or something.

I thought it used to be Thursday? Not sure.
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kaygore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 04:20 PM
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14. It broadcasts Friday nights in Virginia Beach, VA
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kaygore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 04:24 PM
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16. That would be tonight
I have lived in various parts of the country and typically, "Now" airs on Friday night but is sometimes aired a second time over the weekend. I suspect that the show will be posted at http://www.pbs.org/now/ by Saturday--PBS usually posts the videos rather rapidly.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 04:56 PM
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17. Thanks. Found an airing at 4:30 am Sun morning.
I did a search on the online Dish program guide. Would you believe that is the only one I can find?

When there is one I want to see....it's never there.

Interesting.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 04:21 PM
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15. I agree with Dr. Dean.
No public option = no votes
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 05:26 PM
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18. He says missing this opportunity would be greatest scandal last 60 years
"DB: I recently spoke with a progressive economist who argued that the pressing challenge of the economic downturn means we should put off health care reform. Do it later. Do you agree with that?

"The truth is the private sector does not do a good job running health care."

HD: I would say that would be an ... incredibly foolish piece of advice. For one-sixth of what we just spent bailing out Bank of America and Citicorp, we could have a health insurance program that finally worked and enabled America to compete again with other industrialized democracies. I think this is exactly the time we should be working on health care. If we miss this opportunity, it'll be the greatest scandal in the last 60 years when since we first starting out trying to get health insurance under President Harry Truman."
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 06:16 PM
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19. Kick so you can set your dvr.
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 06:29 PM
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20. K & R n/t
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 07:57 PM
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21. And another for those who get to watch.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 11:34 PM
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23. Anyone, how was the interview?
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Mithreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 12:03 PM
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24. K&R nt
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 03:03 PM
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25. No video up yet.
Edited on Sat Mar-21-09 03:03 PM by madfloridian
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