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C......N......C Donating Member (454 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 07:01 AM
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Trickle up. I think this could be a democrat concept..
Trickle up. Helping the low income will save the world. Making life's basics free for all will subsidize labor rates and let the USA start to compete on the world market. Crime and drug use will go down. I am not saying that the poor are criminals and druggies, but the crime and drug rate "seems" to be lower in gated communities. Free education will discover more hard working people that can't afford college. Guaranteed living retirement income will help people to quit saving so much and start spending, getting the economy moving. Low income people will spend money. This is a free economic stimulus. Higher income people tend to hoard money in bad times, making bad times worse. Sure there are downsides. Some people will take advantage of a benevolent system, but not as much as Wall Street did.
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Believing Is Art Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 07:04 AM
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1. Me no likey
Edited on Fri Mar-20-09 07:53 AM by Believing Is Art
As the party that appreciates science, I don't think we should coin a term that violates gravity.

I prefer some kind of analogy to plants; giving the roots and soil plenty of nutrients and water produces upward growth.

Edit: I agree with your predictions about infusing cash to the lower and middle classes. I didn't know Democrat vs. Democratic was a big deal till I googled the controversy.

Welcome to DU!

Second Edit: You should look at a report from 2008 by Moody's Economy. They found that food stamps and unemployment provided the best return for each dollar spent by the government. Corporate tax cuts and the extension of Bush's tax cut were the biggest losses per dollar.
www.economy.com/mark-zandi/documents/assissing-the-impact-of-the-fiscal-stimulus.pdf -
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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 07:06 AM
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2. "Democrat" concept????? Hunh?
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C......N......C Donating Member (454 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 07:20 AM
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7. A concept that a democrat might think of.
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 08:20 AM
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20. You're already outted yourself loser
Go back to free republic and search for that Michelle Obama "whitey" tape.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 07:21 AM
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8. Do I smell pizza? nt
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C......N......C Donating Member (454 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 07:23 AM
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9. ?
I am not very contemporary so please explain. Thanks.
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LaydeeBug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 07:34 AM
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12. I'm getting a whiff of the very same. nt
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C......N......C Donating Member (454 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 07:43 AM
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15. Seriously guys, I am not up on and am new to
contemporary lingo. If I have said something that offends, let me know and I will change or erase it.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 01:45 PM
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27. Benefit of the doubt:
"Democrat" used as an adjective is almost always a sign of a partisan Republican. It's Limbaugh-talk, and you'll hear it from all the nastiest elements of the GOP.

Democratic is the adjective; Democrat is the noun.

So your usage set off some alarm signals...
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 07:09 AM
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3. "Democrat" is considered a put down by many.
The correct term would be "democratic."

I think the last 8 years have proven that trickle down is a fallacy. It doesn't work. It just lines the bank accounts of the world's wealthiest people. Same for tax cuts. If they worked, where are all the new jobs they should have created over the last 8 years?

Bush's job creation numbers are pathetic. We lost more than we gained, many of them going overseas so no taxes are paid at all.

Is it any wonder our economy is so screwed up right now? Republicans, historically, leave us with a bad economy, higher deficits, and more problems.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 07:09 AM
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4. DemocratIC. nt
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 07:10 AM
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5. I think you are right.
If only there were a few more Democrats (instead of all the "democrats") to champion such a concept.
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 07:20 AM
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6. I prefer a farming metaphor...
You can't harvest a crop without feeding the soil.

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The_Commonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 07:26 AM
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10. How are your going to pay for all of this?
I am a commonist and I believe we are all in this together, but in the real, practical world... how does this work?
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C......N......C Donating Member (454 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 07:32 AM
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11. Go to the same troth that Wall Street and the Banks did.
Government is not worried about paying that bill, so why not not worry about something that would help people? Can't find definition of or spelling for troth.
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 09:11 AM
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24. Trough.
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C......N......C Donating Member (454 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 06:59 PM
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30. Like I said earlier some place
its about everybody, not more. Time to free up the purse strings to help the needy. Some one in power has to fess up to its not okay to still keep feeding the rich because its the right thing to do.
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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 07:36 AM
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13. Except that things don't "trickle" up
they "percolate" up
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C......N......C Donating Member (454 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 07:41 AM
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14. I was drawing on Reagan's voodoo economics as branded by Bush.
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cyberswede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 08:49 AM
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22. Senator Harkin (D) uses the term "percolate up" n/t
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 07:53 AM
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16. "Filter up"
might be a more accurate term. But it's a good concept.
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C......N......C Donating Member (454 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 07:56 AM
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17. I have go to go to work, but what are they talking about when
they say smell the pizza?
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 08:09 AM
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18. Don't worry about it.
It's just some DU slang. DUers often tease newbies.
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C......N......C Donating Member (454 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 08:12 AM
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19. Thanks, I can go to work now.
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theophilus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 08:31 AM
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21. Bubbleup. I like that concept. Pure, cold water bubbles up in springs
and is imbibed by the grassroots. Everything grows from the bottom up. Also "Bubbleup" is mentioned in that old song about drinking free "bubbleup" and eating rainbow stew. I think it could happen.

Bubble Up is far superior to Trickle Down. There is no Trickle Down when a catch basin has been orchestrated to pump it all to the top 10 per cent.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 01:46 PM
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28. I thought it was called 'bubble up' when Clinton was in office. (nt)
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 01:49 PM
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29. Trickle Down only works when...
...the sponges at the top get squeezed.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 09:05 AM
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23. Several problems here
The term defies gravity so it is meaningless.
The Democratic party needs to use the analogy of building from the foundation and protecting the roots of a tree. Everything thrives when the foundation is strong and the foundation is never at the top.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 09:13 AM
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25. whoopsie, you need to recognize your mistake here immediately!
:popcorn:
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 09:19 AM
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26. Almost sounds like...
he thinks he's discovered something!

Or he's really having us on.

:popcorn:
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The_Commonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 09:38 AM
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31. I think s/he might be a kid.
As a youngster, my friends and I used to call them "profound revelations."
My father used to call it "stating the incredibly obvious."
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C......N......C Donating Member (454 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 10:35 AM
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33. Are you referring to my OP as being incredibly obvious?
I think attention has to be called to the fact that our society ( world ) has been given the option to either be generous or denying to poor people. The powers that be have chosen to let it be hard for the poor. I guess this is mitigated by them believing that poor choose to be poor, so lets not force any goodies on them. On the other end, the people that get to take can find no end to the ways that they take. It is hard to understand why those that can do not make it better for those that can't.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-21-09 09:41 AM
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32. It Had A Different Name...The New Deal
Time now for a Fair Deal
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