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Cyrano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 09:39 PM Original message |
Communism failed. Capitalism failed. What do we try next? |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 09:39 PM Response to Original message |
1. State socialism (i.e., Soviet communism) failed |
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marmar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 08:06 AM Response to Reply #1 |
71. self-delete, responded to wrong post |
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opihimoimoi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 09:41 PM Response to Original message |
2. Of course there is....its called Peace3....life on a roll with drinks with tiny umbrellas in them |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 09:43 PM Response to Original message |
3. Drop money. A resource-based economy. nt |
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LakeSamish706 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 09:43 PM Response to Original message |
4. Dictatorship, with the right Dictator.. And not a Bush either... (kidding here of course) n/t |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 09:44 PM Response to Original message |
5. Democratic socialism . . . dump capitalism . .. |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 09:44 PM Response to Original message |
6. It isn't hard to narrow it down |
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Motown_Johnny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 09:44 PM Response to Original message |
7. necessities should be socialized, luxuries should be capitalized |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-20-09 05:30 AM Response to Reply #7 |
65. so the dairy farm down the road from me should be socialized? |
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Moochy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 09:44 PM Response to Original message |
8. Plutocracy |
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Cyrano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 09:56 PM Response to Reply #8 |
20. Plutocracy? Bah. It's just unregulated capitalism with a different name. |
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Moochy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 09:58 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. Whatever name we decide to call it... |
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Mr. Hyde (314 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 10:05 PM Response to Reply #20 |
27. Plutocracy can thrive under communism as easily as Marxism. Indeed, it does. |
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espiral (143 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 09:45 PM Response to Original message |
9. re: |
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Cyrano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 10:15 PM Response to Reply #9 |
32. Go for it, Che. Try to revive the communism of the last century. |
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Dorian Gray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-20-09 05:56 AM Response to Reply #32 |
67. I think pure communism is virtually impossible to instill in a state as |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 09:48 PM Response to Original message |
10. Pragmatism. The Golden Mean. |
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BobRossi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 09:51 PM Response to Original message |
11. Capitalism didn't fail. |
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skooooo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 09:52 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. If that's true, then neither did communism. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 09:53 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. False. Capitalism was regulated, and it won. Capitalism was deregulated, and it lost. |
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skooooo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 09:57 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. My fellow Obama supporter.. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 10:00 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. Um, it doesn't count if someone else is propping you up. LOL! |
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skooooo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 10:31 PM Response to Reply #25 |
39. I guess we're all in trouble then, huh? |
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Cyrano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 10:06 PM Response to Reply #11 |
28. Capitalism worked from about 1945 to about 1980. |
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dbonds (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 09:51 PM Response to Original message |
12. The 3 shells |
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Rebubula (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-20-09 05:48 AM Response to Reply #12 |
66. Nice |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 09:52 PM Response to Original message |
14. Regulated capitalism won, until they deregulated. This OP is dumb. |
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Cyrano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 10:22 PM Response to Reply #14 |
35. I am the OP. I specifically stated "unregulated" when referring to capitalism. |
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TexasProgresive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 09:53 PM Response to Original message |
15. My understanding of Marx is that Communism was supposed to |
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skooooo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 09:58 PM Response to Reply #15 |
24. Exactly..the Soviet Union was not Marxist's.. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 09:53 PM Response to Original message |
16. Ah but we were very successful with a MIXED economy back in the 50s |
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Double T (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 09:53 PM Response to Original message |
18. Revolutionism must be our next step. |
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Cyrano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 10:26 PM Response to Reply #18 |
38. Virtually every revolution in the history of the world resulted in a new set of dictators |
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Double T (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 11:04 PM Response to Reply #38 |
44. Extinctionism is our fate. |
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safeinOhio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 09:54 PM Response to Original message |
19. I'd make a great king |
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cobalt1999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 09:57 PM Response to Original message |
22. People are the problem |
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Mr. Hyde (314 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 10:01 PM Response to Original message |
26. You see, under capitalism, men exploit other men but under communism, it's just the opposite. |
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Cyrano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 10:42 PM Response to Reply #26 |
41. Peddle that crap to all the "States Rights" advocates. Follow your |
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Mr. Hyde (314 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-20-09 01:56 AM Response to Reply #41 |
56. I can't find anything in your post that I agree with. |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 10:07 PM Response to Original message |
29. Stinkyism |
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Phoebe Loosinhouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 10:09 PM Response to Original message |
30. Benevolent Despotism with me as Benevolent Despot |
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guyton (370 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 10:11 PM Response to Original message |
31. Finland! |
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tom_paine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 10:17 PM Response to Original message |
33. Dinsosaur. |
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No.23 (517 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 10:19 PM Response to Original message |
34. Benevolent monarch here. |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 10:22 PM Response to Original message |
36. Moderation? |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 10:24 PM Original message |
False premise - capitalism hasn't failed. nt |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 10:24 PM Response to Original message |
37. False premise - capitalism hasn't failed. nt |
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Cyrano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 10:49 PM Response to Reply #37 |
42. Go back up this thread and read some of the posts about regulated and |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 10:32 PM Response to Original message |
40. a mix of HEAVILY regulated capitalism and socialism would be my druthers. |
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Duke Newcombe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 10:53 PM Response to Original message |
43. We'll never know... |
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D23MIURG23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 11:12 PM Response to Original message |
45. Democratic City States. n/t |
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No.23 (517 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 11:16 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. If by democratic city states, you mean... |
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D23MIURG23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 11:19 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. Sounds good to me. Its a deal! |
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No.23 (517 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 11:28 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. Feeling's mutual, Brother/Sister 23. |
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Lilith Velkor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-20-09 01:12 AM Response to Reply #52 |
53. Hexagram 23: Things fall apart |
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No.23 (517 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-20-09 04:03 AM Response to Reply #53 |
62. Instead of things falling apart... |
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mudesi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 11:13 PM Response to Original message |
46. Socialism |
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PerfectSage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 11:15 PM Response to Original message |
47. I prefer we try sadism... |
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RagAss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 11:24 PM Response to Original message |
50. Onanism ! |
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upi402 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-19-09 11:27 PM Response to Original message |
51. socialism = capitalism but with rules and fairness, I suppose. n/t |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-20-09 01:16 AM Response to Original message |
54. representative democracy and tightly regulated semi-capitalism.... |
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Kip Humphrey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-20-09 01:29 AM Response to Original message |
55. Cooperatism filled with cooporations which are |
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LiberalPersona (679 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-20-09 02:03 AM Response to Original message |
57. neotribalism /nt |
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whoneedstickets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-20-09 03:06 AM Response to Original message |
58. Anarchism! |
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bird gerhl (129 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-20-09 03:08 AM Response to Original message |
59. Suicide |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 08:20 AM Response to Reply #59 |
74. You need a date far worse than I do. |
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bottomtheweaver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-20-09 03:16 AM Response to Original message |
60. I don't know about Communism failing. What about |
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espiral (143 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-20-09 04:08 AM Response to Reply #60 |
63. re: |
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bottomtheweaver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 08:03 AM Response to Reply #63 |
68. thanks espiral, |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-20-09 03:47 AM Response to Original message |
61. liberal socialism |
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T_i_B (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-20-09 04:33 AM Response to Original message |
64. Communism failed. Capitalism failed. What do we try next? |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 08:04 AM Response to Original message |
69. What system do the Teletubbies use? Whatever it is, it deserves our |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 08:08 AM Response to Reply #69 |
72. Well, they have televisions and have lots of tubby sex |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 08:06 AM Response to Original message |
70. Capitulation |
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Hugin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 08:11 AM Response to Original message |
73. Um, we could try a Representative Democracy. |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-21-09 08:26 AM Response to Reply #73 |
75. Yeah, but "American Idol" is losing ratings despite Paula's abduls... |
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