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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 07:26 PM
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White House subpoena evaders put national security at risk-
(and waive exec privilege)....

not sure if this has been posted today ---- this is going to get really good now.....


"A reader who has a security role at a federal agency writes, "On the issue of using outside/unofficial e-mail address from official sites, the CIO at has expressly forbade the practice for security reasons as it is all too easy to put sensitive information in an e-mail.".........



http://www.boingboing.net/2007/03/28/white_house_subpoena.html
Boing Boing: White House subpoena evaders put national security at risk (and waive exec privilege)



http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/3/28/112424/169
Daily Kos: The White House's impending email security disaster.


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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 07:30 PM
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1. I'm going to ask this as a devil's advocate. Having said that...
WHY would this waive executive privilege? Why? In what sense are these e-mails not deliberations by Bush's staff pertaining to matters political and policy concerning which they are expected to advise the President? In what sense are they not meant to be protected as candid advice, reached individually and collectively?

I think that storing the e-mails this way violates the records retention law, but I don't think that the e-mails being stored or transmitted in violation of binding policy, somehow makes them not executive anymore, if they are the President's business.

It would be like saying that just because a dossier is found in a trash can means it's not classified anymore, because it is in a trash can, and not in the possession of the government.
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 07:34 PM
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2. Because there are rules
For several reasons. Most importantly, that the servers they use are secure (ha ha) and that we don't have Watergate deux.
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 07:42 PM
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4. I don't see what the one rule has with the other.
I see one rule broken as all hell, but I don't see that having anything to do with weakening (or strengthening for that matter) an executive privilege claim.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 07:45 PM
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5. argue that point with the people who make the rule, or whatever it is they call it.
I'm sure you're more well versed in the details than they are.

they'll change it after listening to you.
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 07:50 PM
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6. Just proves the rule no one believes in devil's advocates.
Only devils.
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Fresh_Start Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 08:08 PM
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7. I'd argue that national security includes the branches of
government as well as the buildings of government. If Bush as a target is a national security issue, than so is the federal court system or the legislative branch.
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Fresh_Start Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 08:08 PM
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8. do you know the ENTIRE scope of the emails they did
off the .gov server? Doubt it.
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