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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-16-09 01:27 PM
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One of the best golf courses I have ever played.
http://www.rmi.gsu.edu/rmi/faculty/klein/RMI_3500/Readings/Other/AIG_GolfCourse.htm

Exclusive Morefar Is
Far More Mysterious
Than Most Golf Links

...
Few have heard of Morefar Back O'Beyond. It is perched on 500 acres of land here, where tumble-down stone walls thread along wooded hillsides and Revolutionary War markers adorn the roads. "This course is owned by a private corporation and is only open to its employees," reads the description on the PGA of America Web site. "All fees are arranged through the corporate office and are not available for publication." The sign outside says "Private Property, No Trespassing," and the golf course isn't visible from the gate.
...
It's an exotic place to play. A sculpture collection is spread throughout the course. One piece is in a sand trap. And the pace is so leisurely that stopping for a sit-down lunch after nine holes is de rigueur.
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Morefar is also part of an empire in upheaval, and its future is not assured. For decades, Morefar has been the province of American International Group and of Maurice "Hank" Greenberg, who was deposed as chairman and chief executive of the massive insurer in March after state and federal regulators began examining the company's accounting practices. Mr. Greenberg is not a golfer; he has long preferred tennis and aerobic exercise. But his country home is down the road, and controlling access to Morefar has been his handiwork. An invitation to play there is an honor, both within the company and in the insurance industry at large. Mr. Greenberg has appeared regularly at Morefar to greet guests and talk business.

Morefar is inextricably part of AIG's history, its hierarchical mystique and its relentless work ethic. AIG business units are allocated tee times, which go to selected employees to entertain clients or meet with colleagues. The business units are expected to pay for the privilege.

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In all honesty, I do not know if it is still open or if it is still owned by AIG. I just remember playing there when I was a young man in the employ of AIG.

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denem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-16-09 01:29 PM
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1. May I recommend Round Up.
Edited on Mon Mar-16-09 01:30 PM by denem
... game over.
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-16-09 01:32 PM
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2. Sounds like a terrific spot for a Walmart
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county worker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-16-09 01:38 PM
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3. Boy you asked for it! Golf is a no no at DU!
Edited on Mon Mar-16-09 01:40 PM by county worker
Too much water wasted, not a real sport, rich man's game, sexist what did I miss?
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denem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-16-09 01:43 PM
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4. No it's the golf invitatation, an honor "within the company and in the insurance industry"
neither of which have honor of any kind.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-16-09 01:47 PM
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6. That's not true. The insurance industry and AIG have many hard -working
dedicated and honest people. It is not fair to paint them all with the broad brush of criminality that some deserve. In fact the unit that caused AIG's downfall is a relatively new business unit that was started when investment bankers came to Hank Greenburg and told him about this exciting new product....

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denem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-16-09 01:54 PM
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11. Hank Greenburg was told about this exciting new product all right -astroturf.
Edited on Mon Mar-16-09 02:00 PM by denem
He didn't use any in his xanadu though.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-16-09 01:46 PM
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5. As Mark Twain said: "Golf is a good walk wasted". How true.
It was also one of the socio/economic dividers when I was in high school. The rich kids went golfing and skiing, even wearing their ski lift tickets on their winter jackets so you could tell them from the working class kids. A big deal in my city now is about who will run the golf course, the city or a private party, even though the land at the foot of the bluffs was given to all of the citizens here and not just those who golf.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-16-09 01:52 PM
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8. I enjoy that Twain line, and sometimes it is very appropro
But as a person who has been on a long spiritual journey I can say that 5 hours on a golf course can be as meditative an experience as anything. I understand the economics, even though I can usually find a <$20 twilight round at a muni course. I don't do fishing, but I have others compare golf to fishing in terms of its spiritual aura. Just me opinion, not looking to get flamed. :)
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misanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-16-09 01:55 PM
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12. I never thought it was the act of fishing...
..but the solitude and quiet that did the job. It would be just as effective without the rod or hook.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-16-09 01:57 PM
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15. that's it exactly. In golf, the clubs and ball are just a vehicle, how you walk
through the challenges of the course (life) is a perfect reflection of who you are. If you ever want to know any person's true character, observe him playing a round of golf. It is practically impossible to hide your true self on a golf course.
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wilt the stilt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-16-09 02:16 PM
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20. I play golf all the time
but I think Basketball is a better gauge of character. Golf only shows one side. Basketball also displays teamwork, sharing and sacrifice and still will show whether you are a cheater or not
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misanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-16-09 03:43 PM
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24. There's a lot more blind luck involved in life than golf**nm
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county worker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-16-09 01:55 PM
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13. When I was in the 4th grade I started to caddy. Among us caddies was
Martin Sheen (Ramon Estavez) and his brothers. It was at a private country club. We were able to play on Mondays when the club was closed. I played then and ever since. At our high school also attended by Martin we had the same thing as you describe at yours. But us working class slobs learned to play even at that.

That country club is the place were Martin Sheen said he learned to be a liberal and I was the same. We were poor kids serving the investor class.
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wilt the stilt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-16-09 02:21 PM
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21. I bet Martin Sheen
always felt that those people always looked down their nose at him. This reminds of the story of Lee Trevino at the Masters. He never went into the clubhouse as he knew if he wasn't playing golf there(they had to invite him) that the members would have asked him to mow their lawns or shined their shoes.
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county worker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-16-09 02:30 PM
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22. Martin Sheen said that one thing that got to him was that we were never permitted to go
into the club house.
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-16-09 01:58 PM
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16. Funny thing - in my high school the poor kids golfed and rich kids played football
I couldn't play football (besides sucking at it) because I had to work. So I did what the other less well off kids did - we caddied. Through caddying one gets enough money for tuition and learns to play golf.

It was good to learn to golf early - the awing never leaves you.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-16-09 01:50 PM
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7. You forgot "Invented by and for Village Idiots"
:hi:
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tangent90 Donating Member (787 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-16-09 01:53 PM
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9. Incuding Tiger Woods?
:hi:
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-16-09 01:57 PM
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14. Oh really?
Edited on Mon Mar-16-09 01:59 PM by Oilwellian
Well I golf and don't consider myself a "Village Idiot." Millions of Americans now golf thanks to the huge growth in public courses over the past 20 years. Your bigotry and obtuseness are duly noted. :hi:

Edited to add waving smiling smiley
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misanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-16-09 01:53 PM
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10. Golf bores me but I'll admit...
...that even the manicured greenery of a course reflects less heat back into the atmosphere than parking lots and rooftops.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-16-09 02:03 PM
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18. ooo, that's not a good direction to go in
Manicured golf courses are a huge environmental problem. Their pesticides and fertilizer usage is quite high. But I can't deny being pleased by the aesthetic of a well manicured garden.
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misanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-16-09 03:55 PM
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25. I was just giving a lonely positive, not making a blanket endorsement**nm
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-16-09 01:59 PM
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17. What is it with insurance companies and golf courses?
Kemper Lakes

There are a couple up in Wisconsin owned by insurance companies.
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wilt the stilt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-16-09 02:12 PM
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19. we toured Versailes
and her statement while we were touring was"no wonder they cut off their heads". Same applies to this place.
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-16-09 02:36 PM
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23. Like I've been sayin'

Golf is an environmental nightmare and a bourgeois affectation.
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