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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 09:09 PM
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Pat Lang: "Is Admiral Blair next?" (Will the neocons go after Obama's DNI?)
Is Admiral Blair next?

That's a fair question.

The vicious clique that deprived us all of the chance to have Charles Freeman as chairman of the NIC had as its principal goal the ability to control the content of US national intelligence estimates of concern to Israel. The analytic paper in which these servants of a foreign power have the greatest interest is that concerning Iran.

Israeli general staff intelligence believes that the Iranians possess an immediate ability to assemble at least one nuclear weapon and are close to achieving an industrial ability to manufacture such weapons and their matched delivery systems.

Admiral (Ret.) Dennis Blair has testified before Congress that US intelligence (using the same data) does not agree. The National Intelligence Council (NIC) of the United States believes that the Iranians could not have enough weapons grade fissile material to make ONE atomic weapon until 2010. (Some members of the NIC would say 2015) Admiral Blair has also testified that the NIC does not believe that the Iranians have yet made a decision to manufacture nuclear weapons. So far they have not produced uranium concentrated enough to use in fission weapons.

Israel has always had a very limited ability to collect hidden information in Iran. More than that I do not wish to say. What they know of things like the Iranian nuclear and missile programs are largely the result of others' efforts. The reason why the Israeli and US estimates reach such different conclusions is the persistent and "traditional" habit of IDF intelligence of"worst casing" every single shred of supposed information and then compiling those shreds into a pastiche satisfactory to their collective fear. This is reminiscent of the analytic technique of the neocons in the campaign to sell the Iraq War to the American people.

The "Israel First" crowd want a US national estimate that will justify and virtually require a US attack on Iran. There will be a strong effort made to appoint a chairman for the NIC who will preside over the creation of such an estimate.

Dennis Blair has defied the Lobby, the neocons and IDF intelligence.

Watch your back, admiral. Watch your back. pl


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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 09:11 PM
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1. I asked that on one of babylonsister's threads on Monday or so.
Is that the next big thing? I'm not cool with Blair but much less cool with the lobby forcing him out.
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 09:19 PM
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3. The one that got locked, thanks to the DU contingent of AIPAC fellow travelers?
Imho, there's a war on -- and if we don't win it, there will be hell to pay.

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 09:36 PM
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9. There are right wing hawks in the highest level of both governments.
They don't have either public's good in mind, imho.
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 09:45 PM
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12. I always think of Bob Dylan's song, "The Masters of War".
Some people in power are simply downright evil. Really, truly evil.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 09:19 PM
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2. What next, a false flag attack on us like what they may have done to
the USS Liberty? It almost caused us to drop nukes on Egypt, maybe they can get us to nuke Iran.
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 09:22 PM
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4. They're going to do their damnedest. I'd rather see a nuclear-armed Iran
Edited on Thu Mar-12-09 09:23 PM by scarletwoman
than see the neocons prevail. The neocons are a far greater danger to the U.S. than Iran will ever be.

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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 09:32 PM
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8. One or two nukes are worthless. If they ever used them their country would
be incinerated. They know it, Israel knows it.
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 09:41 PM
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10. You're thinking rationally. Unfortunately, the neocons do not.
Even if Iran DOES develop nuclear weapons capability, such a capability will strictly function as a deterrent. Iran has no extra-territorial ambitions, it just wants to not be fucked with.

With the singular exception of the U.S., all other nuclear armed nations hold their nuclear weapons as a DETERRENT against the aggression of others. Iran would be no different, the government of Iran is not suicidal.

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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 10:57 PM
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15. Building a nuke is probably for domestic political reasons. It is also making
some people very rich.
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 09:25 PM
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5. Head for the hills, the joooooooooooooos are coming!!!!!!!!!!!
:scared::scared::scared::scared::scared::rofl:
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 09:30 PM
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7. Thank you for kicking my post. (nt)
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 09:42 PM
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11. It would be nice to see you post a thoughtful response
one of these days.
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 06:00 PM
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16. I do, when the occasion warrants. Other times, not so much.
:shrug:
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PM Martin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 09:26 PM
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6. kick
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 09:46 PM
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13. Thank you. (nt)
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 09:55 PM
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14. Great comment in Pat Lang's thread:
Edited on Thu Mar-12-09 09:55 PM by scarletwoman
The "Israel First" crowd and their less-than-subtle tactics with regard to Chas Freeman may have done themselves more harm than good.

Yes, they "won" this battle, but have they "lost" the war?

Going just by the reactions of Intel professionals like Colonel Lang and Larry Johnson, can we imagine what the reaction is among the folks who populate State's INR, DoD's DIA, the CIA, and most certainly in Admiral Dennis Blair's ODNI itself?

I'm betting these Intel folks have long memories and that they are not liable to forget this attempt to railroad US Intel and Foreign policy.

At the least, I'm betting that unlike the Neocons in the Bush/Cheney Administration maintaining an open and revolving door policy for the Israel First crowd, these civil servants will find ways to turn a deaf ear to their braying hysteria.

So to the Israel First crowd, make the most of Chas Freeman's bloody scalp because it may be the last trophy you'll be able to worship.


Love it.

sw
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 10:08 PM
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20. makes ya shake your head too
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 06:19 PM
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17. K&R.
A quick hello, and now I must be going...

:hug:
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 07:05 PM
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18. Quelle surprise! Merci for the k&r.
Tout mon amour à tu.

*kiss* *kiss*
:loveya:
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 08:09 PM
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19. I'm going to go ahead and kick this because there are some extremely interesting comments
at the link, many new comments added today. Serious reading.

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