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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 07:05 AM
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Are Crazy Muslims a threat to this country?
I'm not a Christian, but I've finally had it with the incessant and thoughtless Christian bashing that never feckin' ever goes out of vogue at DU.

Here's a simple and easy to follow guideline: Substitute Jews, Muslims, Pagans, etc, for the word Christian in the bash you're planning. If it looks bad and bigoted to you, that's a clue that perhaps you shouldn't post your Christian bash.
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 07:07 AM
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1. Shame on you, starting a copy cat thread!
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 07:08 AM
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2. Crazy people are generally a threat.
The dynamic is that Christians are a majority here--no one is worried about mobs burning down cathedrals or megachurches. Synogogues and mosques . . .
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 07:10 AM
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3. Yes, Christians are a majority here
but I don't notice many of them burning down Mosques or Synagogues. The point is that the Christian bashing at DU has become both reflexive and largely accepted.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 07:58 AM
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15. There are Christophobes, homophobes, misogynists, racists,
anti-semites, and Islamaphobes here.

Big tent gets stinky sometimes.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 07:10 AM
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4. Nope
Only the Christians ones are;-)
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cobalt1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 07:16 AM
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5. You are right, crazy Christians are bashed too much here.
We need to pick up the slack and bash crazy Jews, Muslims, Pagans, and all others that want to impose their moral and belief system onto others.

In the future I'll try to include as many other wacky belief systems into my bashes.
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 07:19 AM
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6. I think most "crazy" people are harmless and in need of our support; _extremists_
Edited on Tue Mar-10-09 07:20 AM by Heidi
are an entirely different matter. I think the OP you're referencing included a poor choice of words and probably should have said "extremist" instead of "crazy."
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 07:28 AM
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7. Oh waaah!
Sorry, but when crazy Christians stop trying to remake this country into their twisted vision of paradise, then we can stop bashing them. When crazy Christians stop trying to run my life along with everybody else's, then we can stop bashing them. When crazy Christians stop trying to dictate what I can do, who I can love, how I can live, then we can stop bashing them. When crazy Christians stop destroying and literally killing people in order to take their vengeance, then we can stop bashing them.

Perhaps rather than scolding us for bashing crazy Christians, perhaps your energy would be better spent among those crazy Christians, showing them the true path of the Lord, the path of love that he wanted us all to tread. If they would follow that path, then we would have no need to bash crazy Christians for there wouldn't be any.

Oh, and in case you haven't noticed it, the crazies of other faiths, or no faith, get bashed around here also. It is simply the fact that there are so many crazy Christians out there that they get bashed so much. After all, as the crazy Christians love to say, this is a Christian nation:eyes:
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 08:00 AM
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16. THE point is that it's not the crazies who get bashed here, it'
Edited on Tue Mar-10-09 08:00 AM by acmavm
ALL believers. They don't have to be crazy for the nasty remarks to come rolling off the keyboard here at anti-religion central.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 08:10 AM
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19. Really?
From what I've seen here for the past eight years, the vast majority of Christian bashing has been of the crazy sect of Christians, specifically the RW fundie Christians. In fact I would say 98% of the Christian bashing is directed at the "crazy" section of Christians, if not more. These post either name a specific Christian, address the group as crazy RW fundies, or distinctly imply that that is who they are addressing in their post. In fact the thread that inspired this one specifically states "crazy Christians":shrug:

I think that the OP is being overly sensitive, and that you are doing likewise. If you aren't a right wing fundy or some other "crazy Christian" you are pretty much left alone.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 08:16 AM
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22. Not hardly. And do you often go around telling people what they've
experienced at any given time? Do the people you know need your validation of their life experiences to make it real? And if you don't declare it to be the truth, does that mean it didn't/doesn't happen?

Because I fucking know damn good and well what I've been told and I don't need you to tell me what is real and what is not.

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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 08:22 AM
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23. Wow, so much for a civil discussion from you this morning
I didn't tell you anything, the comment that I made was "I think". You are free to disagree with that, you are free to discuss it with me. Instead you chose to validate my point about your sensitivity by going off on a foul mouthed tirade, all because of the words "I think". Good job:eyes:

I'll be moving on now, because apparently you don't believe in having a civil discussion.

Wow:wow::wtf:
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 08:30 AM
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24. Not with arrogant asses who think they're more qualified to tell
Edited on Tue Mar-10-09 08:52 AM by acmavm
me what I've done or what's happened to me than I am.

P.S. Read the threads around Christmas time. Or Easter.

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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 07:34 AM
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8. I don't normally have popcorn for breakfast, but.......
:popcorn:

Butter in the middle and on top, and a large Mountain Dew, por favor.



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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 07:41 AM
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9. Fail!
Edited on Tue Mar-10-09 07:49 AM by KG
at ludicrous speed!

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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 07:50 AM
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13. FAIL on your FAIL. No, Double Triple FAIL on your FAIL
nyah, nyah, nyah.
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 07:41 AM
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10. all religion is equally vile
but Christianity poses the greatest threat to our freedom. We won't allow 'crazy Muslims' to force their morality on us but there are those here in the US who would have no problem replacing our Constitution with Leviticus.

Christianity is a real and present danger.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 08:09 AM
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18. simple minded bigotry.
sorry, but it really is. MLK was a Christian. And his brand of Christianity brought enormous benefits to our society and to the larger world. And if religion didn't exist, the people that are religions extremists and fanatics, would simply funnel that into other forms.
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Dorian Gray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 08:11 AM
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20. Really?
Leviticus, huh?

That's just silly. No Christian groups, with perhaps the exception of the Westboro Baptist Church, wants to replace our Constitution with anything.


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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 09:07 AM
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26. I'm afraid you are incorrect in that assessment.
Do a web search for "dominionism" or "reconstructionism." You will quickly understand that there is a small, but very vocal minority of Christians who would, indeed, replace the Constitution with a system based on their beliefs.

Prominent members of the dominionist movement include Don Wildmon of the AFA, James Dobson, and the founder of Blackwater. You may have heard of them.

Christianity is not uniformly in favor of our constitutional form of government. Actually, Christianity is not uniformly anything at all. It's a broad-spectrum religion.
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 08:46 AM
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25.  As are all man made constructs...
"all religion is equally vile"

As are all man made constructs that exist nowhere but out own imaginations-- religion, politics, philosophy, etc.




Although I imagine you believe the man-made construct you yourself adhere to is right and true, seems to me that's the crux of the problem right there-- everyone thinks their own man-made construct is correct as the expense of all the other...
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 07:42 AM
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11. If they made up a signififant portion of the population, yes they would be a threat..
However, unlike extremist Christians, extremist Muslims are a tiny minority in this country.

Extremists become an existential threat when their numbers are great, when they are just a few they are dangerous but not an existential threat.

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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 07:48 AM
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12. Respectfully disagree.
It's a sign of deep intelligence to lump all people into a simple group, and then label them as the "enemy." This allows for a more convenient process for callous dehumanization of people. The fact that people such as Rev Martin Luther King, Jr., were Christians should not get in the way. After all, there were many deep people who correctly called King "crazy" and "a threat to society."
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 07:54 AM
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14. I think this is a good idea
Frankly, when I saw your title, I was ready to come here and say, "Crazy people of any group can be a threat"--but then I read your post. It is very thoughtful and a good reminder to look beyond labels of groups and look at the actions instead.
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QueenOfCalifornia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 08:04 AM
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17. If I were to answer
only the subject line...

Maybe they are.

Crazy Muslims brought us 9/11.

Crazy Muslims routinely kill and torture their own for imagined indiscretions and are dead set on imposing their form of morality on the rest of the world.

But if I look at a bigger picture, I believe all religion is fucking dangerous. When a supposed advanced civilization decides to not explore the healing benefits of stem cell research due to a uninformed "moral minority" - fuck yes, that is dangerous and a threat because we allow the lunatics to run the asylum.

When a supposed advanced civilization follows a deranged maniac in a stay the course mentality because he is fulfilling some sort of end of times crap, then that is downright dangerous and a threat.

Christians - make an effort to knock on my door to spread their dangerous thinking in order to SAVE THE WORLD from the other crazy religious kooks. It's all about the end of the world thinking and it is a threat.
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 08:16 AM
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21. I may overdose this morning...
...on popcorn.

:popcorn:
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 09:07 AM
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27. Are Crazy posters a threat to D/U?
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Baikonour Donating Member (979 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 09:14 AM
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28. All religions worship fictional entities. They're all batshit insane.
The reason why Christians get the most criticism here in America is because they're trying to take over our laws and government.

Let me know when the Muslims are fighting to get statues of the Koran placed in America's courtrooms.

Until then, I'll focus on the Christians.
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