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edhopper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 06:11 PM Original message |
Obama is failing on the Banks. |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 06:12 PM Response to Original message |
1. I called it the second I did any research on the Geithner and crew. They are failing big time. nt |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 06:17 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. why, because the dow is going down? that's due to 8 years of deregulation gone wild |
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edhopper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 06:19 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. It has nothing to do with the Dow |
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AZ Criminal JD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 06:28 PM Response to Reply #3 |
14. Care to be specific about that? |
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galileoreloaded (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 10:22 PM Response to Reply #14 |
74. Sure. The 30B to AIG would stabilize the budget deficits of |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 06:15 PM Response to Original message |
2. Geithner uncovered Bear Stearns |
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edhopper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 06:18 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. True |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 06:24 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. You don't know that |
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edhopper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 06:38 PM Response to Reply #9 |
21. I don't care about the Dow |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 06:48 PM Response to Reply #9 |
25. Believe it or not, economics is a science. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 06:57 PM Response to Reply #25 |
31. They pretend it is |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 07:21 PM Response to Reply #31 |
46. I think we all know what needs to be done. I think we know it at a gut level. (nt) |
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edhopper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 07:25 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. If you are |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 07:26 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. I'm suggesting nationalization of the big banks. The Swedish model worked. We should be using it. nt |
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edhopper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 07:27 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. YES |
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amandabeech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 08:43 PM Response to Reply #9 |
66. The FDIC "nationalized" WaMu, a fairly large bank, and it "nationalizes" |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 09:09 PM Response to Reply #66 |
70. That is not "nationalizing" |
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amandabeech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-03-09 11:17 AM Response to Reply #70 |
75. That's why I put the word in quotes. |
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JBoris (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 06:21 PM Response to Original message |
6. WTF? AIG is Obama's fault? |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 06:22 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. ??? |
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JBoris (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 06:30 PM Response to Reply #8 |
15. "Obama is failing on the Banks." "Geithner was the wrong man" |
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edhopper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 06:52 PM Response to Reply #15 |
28. You are assume |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 06:21 PM Response to Original message |
7. It's exactly like Nassim Taleb has said: |
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Mike 03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 06:24 PM Response to Original message |
10. Nationalization is happening. Are you watching? They are just calling it |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 06:28 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Wrong. Read: |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 06:28 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. no- it really isn't. |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 06:32 PM Response to Reply #10 |
17. You're correct as far as I understand (not an econ major); these |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 06:50 PM Response to Reply #10 |
26. On what planet? |
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edhopper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 06:51 PM Response to Reply #10 |
27. Show me where |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 06:59 PM Response to Reply #10 |
32. No, it's just federal capitalization |
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specimenfred1984 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 06:25 PM Response to Original message |
11. It was clear the fascist U.S. was failing years ago |
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Abq_Sarah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 06:32 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. Economically? |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 06:34 PM Response to Reply #11 |
19. They don't want to discuss that here. I've tried. I've also tried |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 06:33 PM Response to Original message |
18. LOL! |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 06:36 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. Noone is saying it's Obama's fault. It's systemic and it's been around |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 06:42 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. See the subject of the OP |
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JBoris (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 06:44 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. Exactly what I was about to post "Obama is failing on the banks". How is this not blaming Obama? |
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edhopper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 06:59 PM Response to Reply #22 |
33. And I DID NOT |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 07:13 PM Response to Reply #33 |
42. LOL!!! He isn't at fault, just his solutions... |
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edhopper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 07:20 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. Since your having such a hard time with this |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 07:27 PM Response to Reply #45 |
51. Let me break it down for you |
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edhopper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 07:31 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. I said that Obama is failing |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 08:00 PM Response to Reply #54 |
60. It may actually take MORE money! |
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edhopper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 07:38 PM Response to Reply #51 |
57. And if he |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 07:46 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. Nice strawman... |
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edhopper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 08:37 PM Response to Reply #58 |
64. So saying that his policy in this matter is doomed to failure |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 09:04 PM Response to Reply #64 |
69. Jesus Fucking Christ... |
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edhopper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 09:51 PM Response to Reply #69 |
71. I'm |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-03-09 12:33 PM Response to Reply #71 |
76. You are flat wrong... |
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edhopper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-03-09 01:42 PM Response to Reply #76 |
79. Yeah |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 07:20 PM Response to Reply #33 |
44. To be fair he's not correctly acknowledging & defining the problem. n/t |
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edhopper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 07:01 PM Response to Reply #18 |
34. No it will take a long time to fix |
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Thickasabrick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 06:44 PM Response to Original message |
24. This is crap - I don't care if he hired God - we couldn't solve this |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 06:54 PM Response to Reply #24 |
29. Why such low expectations? |
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Thickasabrick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 07:02 PM Response to Reply #29 |
36. How many of Sweden's banks at that time were as intricately linked to the global |
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edhopper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 07:10 PM Response to Reply #36 |
40. Yeah, |
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Thickasabrick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 08:14 PM Response to Reply #40 |
62. Look, I'm not arguing against nationalization....I think that's what |
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edhopper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 07:04 PM Response to Reply #24 |
38. I am not asking for this crisis |
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burythehatchet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 06:55 PM Response to Original message |
30. Let me break it to you gently. |
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graywarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 07:01 PM Response to Original message |
35. ATTENTION; THE REPUBLICANS FUCKED UP THE ECONOMY |
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glinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 07:02 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. Here here! |
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edhopper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 07:08 PM Response to Reply #35 |
39. AND |
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graywarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 07:10 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. The media and Rush are laying out plans to blame this ALL on Obama and the dems |
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edhopper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 07:21 PM Response to Reply #41 |
47. True |
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OmahaBlueDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 07:29 PM Response to Reply #35 |
53. ..or in the hands of the oil industry |
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graywarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 08:34 PM Response to Reply #53 |
63. TRUE |
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mudesi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 07:14 PM Response to Original message |
43. Your Concern Is Noted |
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otohara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 07:26 PM Response to Original message |
49. Corporations, Banks, Wall Street Failed All By Themselves |
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Winterblues (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 07:32 PM Response to Original message |
55. while even people on the right are seeing it needs to be done. |
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edhopper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 07:34 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. Noted |
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orwell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 07:56 PM Response to Original message |
59. Of course... |
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edhopper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 08:43 PM Response to Reply #59 |
65. I give Obama plenty of slack |
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Kip Humphrey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 08:03 PM Response to Original message |
61. Obama has fallen for the trap set by BushCo. Bailouts for Wall Street are doomed to fail and will |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 08:46 PM Response to Original message |
67. Keep feeling smart and underestimating Barack Obama |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 09:00 PM Response to Original message |
68. Disagree. I think he's playing a shrewd game, and a long one too. |
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edhopper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 10:02 PM Response to Reply #68 |
72. I can only hope that you are right |
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ozu (203 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 10:21 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. I'm suspect as well. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-03-09 12:39 PM Response to Original message |
77. We tried to tell people that the reason Obama was appointing rightwing neoliberals |
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RiverStone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-03-09 12:43 PM Response to Original message |
78. What is the inevitable your referring to? |
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edhopper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-03-09 01:44 PM Response to Reply #78 |
81. The inevitable |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-03-09 01:44 PM Response to Original message |
80. The Summers-Geithner gang is part of the problem |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-03-09 01:52 PM Response to Original message |
82. perhaps that is the plan |
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edhopper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-03-09 08:17 PM Response to Original message |
83. Okay |
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