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Karmadillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 01:09 PM Original message |
The UN, PETA, and Scientific American on the devastating consequences of eating meat |
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jmg257 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 01:11 PM Response to Original message |
1. Ummm...steak. |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 01:11 PM Response to Original message |
2. What a great seat I got for this one. |
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MrsBrady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 07:40 PM Response to Reply #2 |
51. you like to get in for a good seat early, don't you. |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 01:11 PM Response to Original message |
3. The only cool vegatrian I have ever met refused to eat meat because she |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 02:37 PM Response to Reply #3 |
24. THERE! That is THE reason for going veg[etari]an. |
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AndrewP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 04:42 PM Response to Reply #3 |
42. The only cool one, eh? |
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Raine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 08:28 PM Response to Reply #3 |
52. We haven't met |
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1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 10:41 PM Response to Reply #3 |
68. when you get a chance, look up the difference between "dent" corn and "table" corn... |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-03-09 05:12 PM Response to Reply #68 |
92. What? |
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ensho (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 01:12 PM Response to Original message |
4. and all of the hormones pumped into the animals is giving men breasts |
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Gman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 01:20 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. And we should have a problem with larger and larger breasts because....?? |
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Kitty Herder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 08:59 PM Response to Reply #9 |
55. I sure hope you're not serious. |
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ensho (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-03-09 01:16 PM Response to Reply #55 |
85. true, very true |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 02:36 PM Response to Reply #4 |
23. I am now even more strongly in favor of meat. nt |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 01:14 PM Response to Original message |
5. This is pretty much indisputable |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 01:17 PM Response to Original message |
6. Ah the monthly anti-meat thread. |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 01:18 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Beurre noise yet? |
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Earth_First (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 01:19 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Is it that time already? |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 01:21 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. I thought next week was pit bulls and breast-feeding............. |
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Earth_First (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 01:23 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Lemme look, |
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Runcible Spoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 02:15 PM Response to Reply #10 |
16. yesterday was pitbulls. |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 02:18 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. I thought yesterday it was cheese sandwiches..... |
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Runcible Spoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 03:13 PM Response to Reply #18 |
33. Cheese sandwiches...that was a special annual Flame Edition |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 02:41 PM Response to Reply #10 |
28. NO! NO! NO! |
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QueenOfCalifornia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 02:44 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. It's |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 03:35 PM Response to Reply #29 |
35. So sayeth the Queen! |
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Lost in CT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 09:54 PM Response to Reply #29 |
61. I've been trying to switch it to Golden Corral to no avail... |
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Mother Of Four (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-03-09 11:22 AM Response to Reply #10 |
78. You just made me grin :D |
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Matariki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 01:25 PM Response to Reply #6 |
12. Wish I could recommend your post` |
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GoneOffShore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 02:16 PM Response to Reply #6 |
17. I could always do a pro foie gras post and really stir the pot. |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 02:19 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. let me be the first meat eater to say ---- EWWWWWW |
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GoneOffShore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 03:15 PM Response to Reply #19 |
34. Don't knock it if you haven't tried it. |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 03:37 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. ewww ewww ewwwwwww |
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GoneOffShore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 04:01 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. It's okay .... I won't say the "FG" words again. Calm down, have a nice glass of wine |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 04:10 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. mmmmmmm........bacon .........mmmmm |
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GoneOffShore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 04:36 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. See, I knew you'd feel better. |
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spoony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 02:35 PM Response to Reply #6 |
22. Yes the subject line is misleading |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 02:39 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. Right. It should be "of the meat-production industry," not "of eating meat." |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 02:39 PM Response to Reply #22 |
27. Yes- and they are using it to promote their cause. |
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Karmadillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 07:07 PM Response to Reply #22 |
49. How do we raise animals so that 8 billion humans can eat like DU carnivores without |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 08:42 PM Response to Reply #49 |
53. good question nt |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 10:27 PM Response to Reply #49 |
66. all 8 million don't like meat ! |
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Karmadillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-03-09 10:36 AM Response to Reply #66 |
70. I was responding to the claim one can divorce the raising of meat from the consumption of meat. It |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-03-09 10:58 AM Response to Reply #70 |
74. Personally I think the amount does need to be cut down |
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sybylla (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-03-09 11:48 AM Response to Reply #70 |
79. The assumption in equating them is that the only way |
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Karmadillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-03-09 12:24 PM Response to Reply #79 |
83. That's not the assumption. |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 02:54 PM Response to Reply #6 |
31. The GOP has their finger-waggy fuck police, we've got our finger-waggy Fork police. |
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Karmadillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 06:47 PM Response to Reply #31 |
43. The GOP has their gimme-gimme lower taxes police, we've got our gimme-gimme more meat police. |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-04-09 02:11 PM Response to Reply #43 |
117. Funny, like I said, I haven't eaten red meat in over a decade. |
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Karmadillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-04-09 04:06 PM Response to Reply #117 |
118. Funny, I haven't policed anyone's fork in over a decade. |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-04-09 06:33 PM Response to Reply #118 |
119. No, I'm drawing a distinction between the unarguable environmental impacts from, say, beef farming |
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Karmadillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-04-09 07:11 PM Response to Reply #119 |
120. Sure sounds like PETA is in agreement with Scientific American on this issue. Read the OP. |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-04-09 07:19 PM Response to Reply #120 |
121. That's what I said. |
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Karmadillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-04-09 07:54 PM Response to Reply #121 |
122. Issue obscenities as you please. It's not my concern. |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-05-09 04:44 PM Response to Reply #122 |
123. Don't you dare try to tell me I don't have a right to be offended by that ad campaign. |
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Karmadillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-05-09 08:42 PM Response to Reply #123 |
128. Given your PETA hatred thing, |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-05-09 05:11 PM Response to Reply #119 |
124. Nice cherry-picking. |
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SidneyCarton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 07:02 PM Response to Reply #6 |
47. You said it. |
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BoneDaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 09:25 PM Response to Reply #6 |
58. Ah Wisdom ...ty |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 10:37 PM Response to Reply #58 |
67. We can always choose locally grown organic steak.... |
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BoneDaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-03-09 09:16 PM Response to Reply #67 |
104. Yep |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-03-09 11:46 PM Response to Reply #104 |
106. I noticed something with the organic meat. |
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burythehatchet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 01:29 PM Response to Original message |
13. This is just another example of something that we eventually wil be forcced to deal with |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 08:48 PM Response to Reply #13 |
54. as with the economy, sustainability has not been the goal. nt |
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old mark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 01:49 PM Response to Original message |
14. We are making pork chops right now, but |
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Hell Hath No Fury (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 02:11 PM Response to Original message |
15. Thanks for this! |
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Fireweed247 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 02:26 PM Response to Original message |
20. I wonder if eating fatty meats full of antibiotics and hormones.... |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 03:40 PM Response to Reply #20 |
37. or it could be from the non-meat based HFCS ! Technically that would be Vegan! |
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AllieB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 09:47 PM Response to Reply #20 |
59. Meat doesn't make you fat. White flour and sugar make you fat. |
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crimsonblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 02:32 PM Response to Original message |
21. umm. how much livestock is on earth as compared to 200 years ago? |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 02:38 PM Response to Original message |
25. I am pretty sure that what will eventually drive humanity towards vegetarianism |
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Motown_Johnny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 02:50 PM Response to Original message |
30. So... do we support a luxury tax on the worst offenders? |
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Lost in CT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 06:57 PM Response to Reply #30 |
44. Well actually whales are the worst offenders on a per animal basis. |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 02:55 PM Response to Original message |
32. So is PETA going to side with Scientific American when they advocate testing potentially lifesaving |
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AndrewP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 04:39 PM Response to Original message |
41. Great! More "meat" for the anti-PETA pricks on D.U. |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 07:00 PM Response to Reply #41 |
46. It starts at the very first reply, too |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 10:44 PM Response to Reply #41 |
69. I don't care for Peta. I would never use the acronym you used though. |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 07:00 PM Response to Original message |
45. wrong target-- the problem isn't eating meat.... |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 07:03 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. It's both. Feeding cattle takes more natural resources than feeding humans |
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cobalt1999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 07:15 PM Response to Reply #45 |
50. Exactly. |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 09:54 PM Response to Reply #50 |
62. no gruel for me, thanks...i have a wonderful garden. |
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AllieB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 09:49 PM Response to Reply #45 |
60. Bingo. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-03-09 10:51 AM Response to Reply #45 |
73. Once in a while I agree with something mike_c writes |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 09:03 PM Response to Original message |
56. the Solution: EAT MORE VEAL!! |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 09:24 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. delete |
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Lost in CT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 09:55 PM Response to Reply #56 |
63. You know I think you have something there..... nt |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 10:16 PM Response to Reply #63 |
65. back when i was a waiter at the meadow club- i sold A LOT of veal chops... |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-02-09 10:02 PM Response to Original message |
64. Evangelism. |
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Karmadillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-03-09 10:48 AM Response to Reply #64 |
72. Do the UN and Scientific American evangelize for "a cool eating cult" or are they |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-03-09 03:10 PM Response to Reply #72 |
86. Don't hide behind them. I wasn't talking about them. |
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Karmadillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-03-09 04:28 PM Response to Reply #86 |
90. Facts are stupid things, aren't they. Feel free to challenge Scientific American |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-04-09 01:22 PM Response to Reply #90 |
112. Again, wasn't challenging them. |
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Karmadillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-04-09 01:47 PM Response to Reply #112 |
116. You are so funny. |
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Eryemil (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-03-09 05:20 PM Response to Reply #86 |
95. It is not our job you ease your liberal guilt |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-04-09 01:23 PM Response to Reply #95 |
113. Wow. I have no response to that. |
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Mari333 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-03-09 10:39 AM Response to Original message |
71. dont eat meat, dont need meat. dont want meat. |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-03-09 11:01 AM Response to Reply #71 |
75. I completely respect that. |
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cobalt1999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-03-09 11:03 AM Response to Reply #71 |
76. Key word "choice" |
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Eryemil (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-03-09 11:18 AM Response to Original message |
77. Why are meat eaters so bloody defensive? |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-03-09 11:56 AM Response to Reply #77 |
80. You say "why so defensive" and then post "Your great-grandchildren will be digging for cockroaches " |
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Eryemil (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-03-09 05:08 PM Response to Reply #80 |
91. ... |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-03-09 06:14 PM Response to Reply #91 |
98. And you are a rude obnoxious little twit. |
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DrCory (862 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-03-09 06:35 PM Response to Reply #77 |
100. If you are part of the probelm... |
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Eryemil (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-03-09 08:31 PM Response to Reply #100 |
101. No, because I don't actually care enough to give up my comforts for the sake of others |
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xenussister (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-03-09 12:10 PM Response to Original message |
81. I eat meat for my health |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-03-09 12:23 PM Response to Original message |
82. I eat meat and find the "pro-meat" responses on this thread hysterical... |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-03-09 05:14 PM Response to Reply #82 |
93. would they snicker at oil spills? |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-04-09 05:00 AM Response to Reply #93 |
107. Very good example... |
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Karmadillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-04-09 10:43 AM Response to Reply #93 |
110. If dealing with spills interfered with their consumption patterns, I'm afraid they might. |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-03-09 12:24 PM Response to Original message |
84. Doesn't Sound Like A Meat Eating Problem Whatsoever. Quite Misguided. |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-03-09 03:37 PM Response to Original message |
87. Eating meat is normal for humans. Some don't want to eat it, and that's OK. |
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Eryemil (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-03-09 05:15 PM Response to Reply #87 |
94. Enjoy it while you can 'cause it won't last long |
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cobalt1999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-03-09 05:33 PM Response to Reply #94 |
96. I assume you hate any liberal with children then |
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Eryemil (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-03-09 05:48 PM Response to Reply #96 |
97. As long as they can say "Yes, I know the consequences and I don't care" |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-03-09 06:17 PM Response to Reply #96 |
99. He is just a self righteous rude little bugger |
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Eryemil (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-03-09 08:34 PM Response to Reply #99 |
102. I am not a vegetarian. I eat most everything except beef and factory farmed meats |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-04-09 05:06 AM Response to Reply #96 |
108. Untrue and implicitly: anti-humanist claptrap. |
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cobalt1999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-04-09 10:58 AM Response to Reply #108 |
111. Absolutely true. |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-03-09 09:07 PM Response to Reply #94 |
103. Apparently you didn't understand what I said. |
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Eryemil (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-03-09 09:18 PM Response to Reply #103 |
105. Puedes tratar, si queréis |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-05-09 05:14 PM Response to Reply #87 |
126. Humans need meat? Quick! Someone tell my nutritionist! |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-03-09 03:44 PM Response to Original message |
88. Seems to me they are talking Factory Farms, not "meat". eom |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-03-09 03:51 PM Response to Reply #88 |
89. Agreed. Capitalism is the problem. |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-04-09 05:09 AM Response to Reply #88 |
109. What is the distinction in the modern urban context? |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-04-09 01:33 PM Response to Original message |
114. Half of the food supply goes to waste every year |
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115. Wait... |
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125. It's chicken fried steak night at my house. n/t |
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127. See, I can't constantly eat soy products. For me, veganism is OUT. |
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