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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 11:14 AM
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FL Gov. Crist: Water pumped by Nestle and others from FL's springs and aquifers FOR FREE should end
It is about time. Florida's precious spring and aquifer water resources are being pillaged every single day by giant corporations such as Nestle Waters of North America, Coca-Cola and Pepsi Co, along with twenty other bottled water companies in Florida.

This is one of the most egregious thefts of our resources that our devious ex-governor Jeb Bush never lifted a pudgy finger to stop. In fact, he was an aggressive advocate for Nestle, as he allowed the corporation to continue pumping as much water as possible without compensation for the state, and he then slathered Nestle with tax breaks for good measure.

With Jeb Bush, it never WAS, and NEVER WILL BE about the good of the people of Florida. Or anywhere else in the United States.


I have to applaud Governor Crist for taking action now.




IVAN PENN | Times (2008)
Madison Blue Springs, where Nestle pays not a dime to pump water.



Florida seeks per-gallon water fee from bottlers

By Mary Ellen Klas, Times/Herald Tallahassee Bureau
March 2, 2009


LEE — In a rural North Florida town where the water tower bears the motto "Tiny but Proud," residents have a big secret: They give the cold, clear spring water that bubbles up from the aquifer below their soil to the nation's largest bottled water company — for free.
Every day, Nestle Waters of North America sucks up an estimated 500,000 gallons from Madison Blue Springs, a limestone basin a mile north of town. It pipes the 70-degree water to its massive bottling plant and distribution center, fills 102,000 plastic containers an hour, pastes on Deer Park or Zephyrhills labels, boxes it up and ships half of it out of state.

The cost to the company for the water: a one-time $150 local water permit. Like 22 other bottled water companies in Florida, including giants Coca-Cola and Pepsi Co., Nestle's profit is 10 to 100 times the cost of each bottle.

And the payment to Florida? Not a dime.


Gov. Charlie Crist wants to change that. He is proposing a 6-cents-a-gallon state tax on water used for commercial water-bottling purposes.
"It's a resource of the state, and if you're going to withdraw it for a profit, we should charge you for that use," said Mike Sole, secretary of the Department of Environmental Resources, which has been developing the governor's proposal for the past six months.

The DEP estimates the fee would apply to about 5.4 million gallons a day — the amount it believes is pumped from state springs and aquifers by bottlers from Coca-Cola's Dasani to Publix. The estimate does not include water taken from municipal water supplies.
The so-called "severance fee'' would be phased in, producing an estimated $56 million the first year, according to the governor's office. The money would be used to finance water projects like desalination plants and other alternatives to traditional water supplies. Making the money even more attractive: The fund that currently finances those projects faces a $15 million deficit since the documentary stamp tax dedicated to water projects dried up in the real estate crash.
If the fee is passed on to consumers, the cost of a pint-sized bottle of water would increase less than a penny.

It's a major shift in position for the department, prompted by Crist, which until December had collected no data on bottled water use in Florida, and takes a hands-off approach to its regulation. The Florida Department of Agriculture's Division of Food Safety makes sure bottlers have approval from local water management districts to withdraw the water, but no state agency tests bottled water. Crist's proposal wouldn't change that.

Instead, Crist's plan would treat water like phosphate, oil or natural gas, all mined from the ground. Companies that extract those natural resources from which they profit pay fees or royalties to the state. ....."Most people won't see this as an unfair tax," said Eric Draper of the Florida Audubon Society.
Crist, who has carefully avoided being associated with any tax increases, could be spared from repercussions on this one, Draper predicts: "This will be very popular with ordinary people who do see that these companies are taking something for free and putting it in bottles and charging a lot more."




The profits on water are huge, but the raw material is free, by Ivan Penn, Times Staff Writer, March 16, 2008

An excerpt:


Nestle had a key ally at the meeting: the state of Florida, in the form of the economic development entity, Enterprise Florida Inc.

.....

To the disappointment of those working to protect the springs, Nestle got its wish.

Jim Stevenson, chairman of the Florida springs task force, said that with the staff recommending against the permit, the governing board should have made some adjustments.
"I would side with the staff," Stevenson said. In protecting the springs, "the responsibility lies with the water management district. They're the ones that have to ensure that our springs remain healthy.

"Once you get up to the board, these are political appointees," he said. "The step up from that is governor, in that he appoints the board members for the water management district."

Jeb Bush, who was governor at the time, did not respond to questions about Nestle's Madison County operations.

.....

The state did much more than fight to get Nestle the right to pump as much water as possible from the spring.
As an added incentive for Nestle, the state approved a tax refund of up to $1.68-million for the Madison bottling operation. To date, Nestle has received two refunds totaling $196,000 and requested a third tax refund.

.....




Many more special report articles from the St. Petersburg Times here:


2008 special report: Water's Edge — Inside Florida's water



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Hope And Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 11:18 AM
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1. Kudos to Gov. Crist.Thanks for posting.K & R!
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RockaFowler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 11:27 AM
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2. The Florida Springs are Beautiful
It's a shame that these companies are "raping" our natural resources. It's unbelievable that they get the water for free and then they charge us an arm and a leg for it. I really had no idea. We love you Jeb! Please come back soon . . .:sarcasm:
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 03:04 PM
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6. Oh are They... I Camped at a Park on Florida's West Coast
can't rememebr the name... but man was it beautiful.
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Tommy_Carcetti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 03:10 PM
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9. Manatee Springs? Fanning Springs? Rainbow Springs?
Those are some of the ones near the West Coast I can think of.

Plus, there's Ichetucknee Springs, my favorite of all favorites:

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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 03:15 PM
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12. Manatee Springs.... I Believe That Was It...
was long ago.... plus I was under the influence most of the time :P
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Lochloosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 03:16 PM
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13. The only problem with Ichetucknee Springs is
Edited on Mon Mar-02-09 03:16 PM by Lochloosa
sneaking in the beer. We would just hide it downstream a little ways and pick it up. :toast:
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Tommy_Carcetti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 03:22 PM
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14. Ha ha....yeah, that was the benefit of the half point drop off.
Loved that run. Can't wait until next time I'm up there.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 11:34 AM
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3. Go Gov. Crist
Those springs are renewable resources for the people of Florida and it's environment and should be managed responsibly not
"mined" and then walked away from.

BTW Because they are "spring waters" the bottles can be marketed as "spring water" which can be sold for more money.
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 02:56 PM
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4. A kick for more eyes. n/t
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FLAprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 03:03 PM
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5. I bet he becomes an independent soon.....
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iamthebandfanman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 03:05 PM
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7. sure seems that way
but if republicans know whats good for 'em(and they usually dont, and when they do its ONLY whats good for them) theyll try and keep him in the party.

hes an example and proof of a moderate being able to exsist in their party.

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Tommy_Carcetti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 03:08 PM
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8. The difference between what Crist has done and what Jeb did is amazing.
Part of Jeb's legacy was that he allowed the permit for the Suwannee American Cement plant within a stone's throw of Ichtecuknee Springs, probably Florida's most pristine River. Anderson Columbia, the owner of the plant, had a notoriously bad environmental record. After the public outrage when the initial plans were unveiled, Bush had initially said he wouldn't grant the permit.

Then, in an about face, Bush said he would allow for the permit of the plant to be built.

Two days later, Bush and the GOP get $190,000 in political donations from the plant's owners.

While I still wish that Crist would have put more restrictions on how much water these companies can suck from the ground, at least they won't be doing it for free and the spicket will slow, helping these springs.

Besides, bottled water is one of the biggest ripoff schemes imaginable.
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paulsby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 03:11 PM
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10. yes
not only is it a ripoff, but it is INCREDIBLY environmentally unsound with all those little plastic bottles, etc.

if you don't like tap water (and tap water quality varies signficantly from place to place) better (and cheaper) options are

1) buy a filter
2) use a refillable gallon container at one of those vendors that offers to fill your bottle with spring water.

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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 03:13 PM
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11. They should treat it like oil...
and not allow *any* of our state's resources be taken for free and then turn around and make a profit.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 10:09 AM
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15. And just when you thought that every single Republican had to be batshit crazy
He also got rid of touchscreen voting. Can we trade him for Lieberman?
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 10:14 AM
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16. 102,000 plasic bottles an hour? That's disgraceful.
Worse than getting free water.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 10:14 AM
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17. Bravo Governor Crist
Time to expose the real parasites.
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