End the Wars - End the Bailouts - Single-Payer Universal Now!

[JackRiddler]

How's that rallying cry for a Million-Person March to demand the Change We Need?


(It comes close to covering everything if "wars" is understood to go beyond the occupations and also cover the drug war, the abusive aspects of "war on terror" and homeland ideology, spending more on the military than almost all of the rest of the world combined, and the longstanding interventionist-imperialist policies everywhere, especially Latin America and the Middle East.)

[patrice]

1. I will consider this for my next street-corner sign.

Haven't really studied the Bailouts well enough to have an opinion. I do think that I'd prefer to have more control over my own money & how it is invested.

[JackRiddler]

17. 'twould be an honor...

Hope you do that! Thanks!

The bailouts cover the irresponsible bets of the banks, which far exceeded the values of the actual assets they were betting on. The banks threaten the world with their own bankruptcy, and everyone must pay for them for a century.

Or we could let them fail, take that money and start a new nationalized banking sector that lends to businesses for the future (energy and transport conversion, green tech, etc.)

[patrice]

21. I wonder what the chances are of them failing to do any good anyway, even if we do bail them out.nt

[JackRiddler]

23. At best the bailouts extend the crisis and make the crash worse.

What do you think the banks have been doing, not just with the hundreds of billions from the Treasury, but with the trillions from the Fed? They were running leveraged scams and betting each other recklessly before, why does anyone imagine this changes when free money rains down into their hands? It's insane, but we've been insane for some time.

Like 9/11 was supposed to be a "failure," so the solution was not to sack even one of the officials who failed, but to raise their budgets and give them more power to act illegally and in secret. Now the banks scammed the world out of trillions with the obvious lie that housing prices would go up forever, and the solution is to give them whatever the taxpayer can provide over the next six generations.

Here's a banner you might try:

FUCK THE BANKS.

[Delphinus]

2. If only

President Obama would listen - single payer is the only way.

[Jackpine Radical]

4. Somehow, I don't think Zeke Emanuel agrees with you.

And somhow I think his opinion counts for more than those of the rest of us put together.

[msongs]

3. this adminstration is gonna give you corporate strangled health care. have a nice day nt

[JackRiddler]

8. What if it weren't what "this administration is gonna give" us?

But what we can get through organized action?

[anonymous171]

5. I agree only if we embrace actual non-intervention and not progressive imperialism.

You know, invading small 3rd world nations because they are being mean to their own people and other things like that.

[JackRiddler]

10. That should go without saying...

but of course needs to be explicit.

The thing about these humanitarian liberal interventions is, you can't point to one that wasn't steered by an interest that saw profit or geostrategic gain rather than a concern for the people supposedly being saved. And furthermore: by what standing? From where does the US, invader and bomber of so many places, covert operations leader against democracies, derive any legitimacy for making such moves? The only potential - stress on the potential - forum for such interventions is the United Nations.

[anonymous171]

11. I agree. Multilateral intervention (organized through the UN) is the only exception.

[L0oniX]

6. Yes we can ...spend billions on war but oh ..no we can't spend it to keep our people from death and

disease.

[TBF]

7. My thoughts exactly. K&R n/t

[G_j]

9. K&R!

[bvar22]

12. Sing me up!

http://accountabilitynowpac.com/

http://www.pdamerica.org/

http://www.standupcongress.org/content/index.php

http://www.moveon.org/

[JackRiddler]

14. & singing is exactly what it should be like ...

Joyous dancing and marching and musifying for many days at a time in the millions all around DC, NYC and Phila, for a start.

[bvar22]

15. LOL.

I'll sing while signing.

"I ain't gonna study WAR no more.
I ain't a gonna study WAR no more....

No more KILLING for PEACE!
Bring the troops HOME NOW!

[bvar22]

16. Adding:

Mandatory For Profit Health Insurance is NOT HealthCare.
It IS a Republican Scam (RomneyCare).

I prefer a Democratic Health Care Plan:

Kucinich's plan, HR 676, is supported by 78 Members of Congress , more than 260 Union Locals , and 14,000 physicians and is endorsed by the New Hampshire House of Representatives.

http://www.ontheissues.org/2004/Dennis_Kucinich_Health_Care.htm

[area51]

13. Kick. (n/t)

[leftstreet]

18. K&R

:thumbsup:

[orleans]

19. oh please! you make everything sound so simplistic and easy.

besides...
"End the Wars - End the Bailouts - Single-Payer Universal Now!" is too damn long for a bumper sticker!

[JackRiddler]

20. Not quite as simple as "The Change We Need," you're right!

;)

[orleans]

22. !

;)