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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 04:52 AM
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The Carlyle Group is Run By Zombies That Want to Eat Your Brains
Usual Disclaimer: Typical epic length McCamy post, with only a scattering of Zombie pics to lighten the mood. If you get bored easily, just read the intro and the last section. Also, I have nothing against zombies. They are cool and make great characters in video games.

Intro.

Catchy title, I know. I am dead serious here. Every person has a style. Every business has a style. The Carlyle Group’s style is Zombie . They want your assets, even if you are a little kid with a lemonade stand, and they will stop at nothing to snatch up your business, make it look fabulous on paper (even if that means substituting rat poison for sugar) before selling it to some sucker who will be stuck with a bunch of dead customers and millions of dollars in lawsuits. That's because they make money the totally insane way, the Zombie Way .




I. We Connect the Dots Because the Corporate Media Won’t: How Daddy Bush is Killing Your Granddaddy With Help From Jr.

The Washington Post reported recently that George W. Bush made a secret deal to protect nursing homes which abuse their residents (no relation to Resident Evil).

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/02/23/AR2009022302752.html

Bush decreed that a whole bunch of people could not testify in civil suits against nursing homes unless he personally (via his HHS Secretary) gave them the thumbs up. The list included state inspectors who noted violation of state health codes and anyone who got any money from Medicare or Medicaid (rules out health care providers, too). With no expert testimony available, it is a little hard to file a case involving medical neglect.

The corporate media forgot to add that he did this to help out his Daddy’s company, the Carlyle Group which started exploring new ways to make money by depriving the disabled and elderly of decent quality care in 2007. This is their usual business model. Get into a new business and use their political connections to screw ordinary people so that they can post an undeserved profit.

In 2007, noting the aging U.S. population, Carlyle Group bought HCR Manor Care

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HCR_Manor_Care

Although the Washington Post could have done a little in depth reporting, I had to read nursing blogs to find mention of this New York Times piece that was done in 2007 about companies like Carlyle Group which are buying up nursing homes, cutting staff and other services to way below the acceptable level needed to provide care for the residents, allowing our grandparents to get sick and die like animals. The Carlyle Group and the other corporate vultures can get away with its, because their complex corporate structure keeps them from paying out a dime in court for their medical malpractice and negligence.

“Private equity is buying up this industry and then hiding the assets,” said Toby S. Edelman, a nursing home expert with the Center for Medicare Advocacy, a nonprofit group that counsels people on Medicare. “And now residents are dying, and there is little the courts or regulators can do.”


http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/23/business/23nursing.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1

These private equity funds need all the lawsuit protection they can get. Here is what the NYTs found when writing its explosive four page story (please read it)

As such investors have acquired nursing homes, they have often reduced costs, increased profits and quickly resold facilities for significant gains.
But by many regulatory benchmarks, residents at those nursing homes are worse off, on average, than they were under previous owners, according to an analysis by The New York Times of data collected by government agencies from 2000 to 2006.

The Times analysis shows that, as at Habana, managers at many other nursing homes acquired by large private investors have cut expenses and staff, sometimes below minimum legal requirements.
Regulators say residents at these homes have suffered. At facilities owned by private investment firms, residents on average have fared more poorly than occupants of other homes in common problems like depression, loss of mobility and loss of ability to dress and bathe themselves, according to data collected by the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services.


W. added an extra layer of protection for his Daddy’s business. The WaPo forgot to mention that. Guess they were trying to be fair and accurate. Funny how “fair and accurate” only seems to apply when the corporate media is writing about corporations that shuffle around billions of dollars and their political puppets.

On a lighter note, if Carlyle Group is true to form, it should be about ready to unload its fleet of snake pits masquerading as too-financially-irresistible-to-pass-up nursing homes on some feckless buyer. At that point, it will reap a windfall, while the federal hammer of justice will fall on the head of the new buyer, who will be forced to restore all of the eliminated services and rehire the fired workers and maybe even pay the outstanding judgments. And the Carlyle Group will waltz away, with its reputation intact. Because if you are a Bush in America, you are never held accountable for anything, not even murdering Grandma for cold hard cash.



II. a. Forgive This Section for Being Too Long, But The Carlyle Group Gets Away With Eating Our Brains, Because They Employ a Lot of Paperwork, Middlemen and Other Countries to Hide Their Trail

The Carlyle Group could not manage their own mortgage securities, but now they expect U.S. taxpayers to GIVE them bailout money so that they can buy other people’s mortgages and clear their debt? Or maybe they want to be allowed to cherry pick all the good properties we have acquired and steal these from us for a song, leaving the American people with the dregs. I don’t think so.

Some people think that Americans have no memory. We wake up each day and push a re-set button that erases everything that we saw or heard the day before except sports statistics and the intimate details of the sex lives of blondes.

While we might have a Tomorrow is another day attitude , I think that most of us can remember last spring, when Bear Sterns was being made to go under so that the feds could rescue JP Morgan without making it look like they were rescuing JP Morgan .

http://dandelionsalad.wordpress.com/2008/05/15/the-secret-bailout-of-j-p-morgan-how-insider-trading-looted-bear-stearns-and-the-american-taxpayer/

If you have not read this article what are you waiting for? Corporate criminals have already stolen your house, your retirement fund, your health. Are you waiting for them to take your children? Find out about how the Rothschild Family in England and the Morgan Family in the US have grown rich by stabbing free market capitalism in the back. These guys are the reason fascism was invented.

At the same time, Eliot Spitzer was being persecuted by the DOJ for a crime he did not commit (using state money to pay for sex) to shut him up about Bush complicity in the predatory lending scandal that was adding to the mortgage crisis.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/13/AR2008021302783.html

The Carlyle Group took advantage of the flood of news to announce their own financial problems in March, 2008. As usual, the corporate media handled the American President’s Daddy’s company with kid gloves.

http://www.reuters.com/article/bankingFinancial/idUSN1361636620080314?sp=true

U.S. private equity firm Carlyle Group should emerge relatively unscathed by the cratering of affiliate Carlyle Capital Corp CARC.AS (CCC), which invested in mortgage-backed securities and defaulted on about $16.6 billion of debt, analysts said on Thursday.
CCC, a fund listed in Amsterdam, said late on Wednesday that it expected its lenders to seize its remaining residential mortgage-backed securities assets after failing to reach a deal to refinance its debt.
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"They don't lose much on a fund like this. It's like when you drop an egg in your kitchen. You just clean it up and throw it away. It's bad if you're the egg, but your kitchen is going to be fine," said Roy Smith, a professor at New York University's Stern School of Business.

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Gould said Carlyle's long-cultivated image as astute investors would probably remain largely unaffected, since many banks, brokerages, hedge funds and others have been forced to take big write-downs over declining asset values amid credit travails in recent months.


You hear that? It was just an egg. A $16.6 billion egg. . No one got hurt except the egg. Btw, exactly who is the egg? Someone has to suck up that $16.6 billion dollar loss. The reporters never get around to telling us who pays for corporate incompetence.

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/carlyle-capital-winding-down-says/story.aspx?guid={ADEA2576-6E0A-4260-8CC5-FAD22FEE7A86}

Shares in Carlyle Capital Corp. (CCC.AE) dropped by more than half Monday after the mortgage-bond fund said it will wind up its operations and indicated there won't be any money left for shareholders.


The story goes on to say that executives owned 15% of the fund, so who owned the other 85%. What about the banks? Did they get back all the money they were owed?

From Bloomberg, we find out why CCC failed. It was because they practiced business the exact same way that their parent company the Carlyle Group does business. They took the maximum amount of risk to make the maximum amount of profit in the shortest amount of time (just like with the nursing home ventures I describe in part 1)---and they got stung. Do not believe anyone who says that CCC was an aberration or not typical of the Carlyle Group. CCC was business as usual for Daddy Bush’s employer.

http://www.marketminder.com/a/fisher-investments-media-hype-myths-us-economy/434664c2-51ea-45f2-bacd-3333a305fd62.aspx

Firms who choose to leverage themselves this way intentionally take on additional risk for the chance of outsized return—and they know the inherent risks should their bets flop. In fact, we wouldn’t be surprised if Carlyle Capital and a few other similar firms fail—it’s merely the market’s way of weeding out unsustainable levels of risk. Firms can and do fizzle out all the time—in good times and bad—and it isn’t a sign of broader problems. Incidentally, Carlyle Capital Corp. is just one investment division run by the Carlyle Group, and though it’s on the brink of flopping, it probably won’t affect the Carlyle Group much (a firm managing 55 funds in 21 countries).


https://www.businessspectator.com.au/bs.nsf/Article/Carlyle-may-help-CCC-investors-CQGVK?OpenDocument

We are told here that Carlyle Group was going to try to make things up to those who had been burned by CCC’s collapse and that these were mostly banks. However, that $150 million line of credit the article mentions is what is commonly referred to as “a drop in a bucket”.

https://www.businessspectator.com.au/bs.nsf/Article/Carlyle-may-help-CCC-investors-CQGVK?OpenDocument

All this insufferable ass kissing by the press makes you want to vomit, doesn't it? What kind of favors does Carlyle Group hand out for treatment like that? Do you think that banks really agreed that Carlyle was too precious to hate? Were they willing to forgive and forget their share of that $16 billion dollar oopsie! egg, when they were the egg, and they were in deep financial crisis themselves? If you read a little further in this journal, you will find out that Carlyle Groups' predatory way of doing business requires one thing above all else---it must have an unsuspecting populous roaming freely on the streets, absolutely ignorant of the zombie menace among it. If the banks it counts upon to put up the money for its acquisitions and the people it counts upon to buy its weapons that do not work and its companies that are rotten at the core know that they are doing business with a bunch of zombies in business suits---

---well, lets just say that zombies do best when they have the element of surprise. Arm their would be victims with enough knowledge---or a flame thrower---and the zombies' business model is not so successful.



II. b. The Carlyle Group is a Vulture Fund (But They Would Prefer That You Not Call Them That)

Given what we know about the Carlyle Group, it should come as no surprise that they cheered on the White House backed free tax payer money giveaway to the banks---and AIG.

http://www.reuters.com/article/innovationNews/idUSTRE48M63H20080923?pageNumber=1&virtualBrandChannel=0

PHILADELPHIA (Reuters) - Carlyle Group CYL.UL co-founder David Rubenstein said the private equity firm may be interested in buying some assets that could be acquired by the U.S. government as part of the $700 billion financial crisis bailout effort.
Speaking on CNBC, Rubenstein said Carlyle may be interested in acquiring some mortgage-backed securities and other assets, but he did not cite specific companies.
"Private equity can help by buying these assets," Rubenstein said. "Private equity can be among the most significant buyers of assets."


To which I can only reply….

What the fuck!

First, the Carlyle Group is not a bank. Second, as far as we know, they are solvent and not in need of a financial bailout. Third, CCC went belly up and all their creditors had to make do with nothing but an I’m so sorry. Ain’t it good that the President’s Daddy works for us . Fourth, we are getting these properties for a fraction of their values. Carlyle thinks they can just waltz in a pick out the best and state a price and say Gimme those! ---

The bailout money that Carlyle Group employee Bush Sr.’s son came on television and demanded that we give to the banks or else life as we know it would cease to exist was supposed to be used by our government to buy up mortgages that were no longer worth as much as they were supposed to be worth. We, the American people who were paying all those billions of dollars were promised that we would own those mortgages and the properties that they represented, so that when this damned Bush recession ended, we could sell them and get our billions of dollars back.

Where in the deal did it say that we would spend billions of dollars to buy mortgages and then hand them over to the world’s newest, hungriest vulture fund ? That’s right. The Carlyle Group wants to get into the business of making a profit off the recession/depression. That is why it is called a vulture fund .

http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/08_36/b4098000738050.htm

"Banks and investment banks are having to sell things they wouldn't have sold in previous cycles," says Julian Nichols, head of European distressed products at Deutsche Bank (DB).
For U.S. financiers, that makes for good hunting. Jeffrey Lefleur, executive director of New York real estate investment company W.P. Carey (WPC), says that half of his company's business now comes from financing European companies. Apollo Management, Carlyle Group, and Blackstone Group (BX) are expected to invest much more in distressed European assets. All firms declined comment on their strategies.


According to one source, Blackstone is associated with Carlyle—and AIG and Henry Kissinger. Maybe our economy is floundering because too many political leaders think they know how to manage money?

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/feds-aig-bailout-henry-kissinger-carlyle-group-get-150billion

If Blackstone and Carlyle are working together, then all our stuff that we are being forced to sell because Bush-Cheney engineered a recession/depression will not be sold on an open competitive market to the highest bidder in order to help the U.S. taxpayers recover their money. Huge chunks of valuable real estate will be snatched up for a song by the two heads of a single zombie monster which is part of a dynasty that hates America because we exposed its granddaddies for the traitorous Nazis they were.



Speaking of traitorous Nazi scum, did I mention that the Mellon Family provided a lot of the seed money for the Carlyle Group when it was formed?

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Carlyle_Group

The infamous, pro-Nazi Mellon family of Pittsburgh, owners of
Aluminum Company of America, held back essential aluminum
production at the onset of the war -- nearly strangling U.S.
bomber and fighter production.


http://www.theconspiracy.us/cati2/0012.html

Funny, how Mellon’s Carlyle Group turned to the Bushes, and how the Nazi supporting Bushes have supported the Nazi supporting Morgans and Chases. Could these be corporate fascist zombies?

More from the last Reuters article above.

On Monday, the U.S. Federal Reserve issued new guidelines for its treatment of minority bank investments, but said it would continue to treat 25 percent as the threshold triggering Fed regulation.
Still, Carlyle may look at financial investments even under the current restrictions, Rubenstein said. In addition to private equity money, Rubenstein said sovereign wealth funds and international buyers should be encouraged to invest in the United States at this time.
Rubenstein was also very glad last fall that AIG was being bailed out.


I am sure he was. AIG does not just insure you and me. It insures zombies, too. What? You didn’t know zombies need insurance?

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/world/2009-02/28/content_7522828.htm

Problems at AIG did not come from its traditional insurance operations, but instead from its financial services units, and primarily its business insuring mortgage-backed securities and other risky debt against default. The government maintains it needed to bail AIG out last September, saying the company's failure would have further disrupt markets and threaten the already fragile economy.


Someone tell me, in a time when all mortgage backed securities were going into default, why did we sink money into a middle man whose job was paying out money to companies whose mortgage backed securities went into default? The sensible thing for AIG to do would have been to split off the bankrupt portion of its company, close it, let the feds take over that part and continue on with their lucrative life insurance business—the part that matters to you and me. Rubenstein would have to be an idiot not to have known that AIG’s mortgage security division would still be on the verge of bankruptcy even after the first bailout. So why was he cheering on the bandaid? Was he one of those insured through AIG? Did CCC’s debt get erased through the first AIG bailout? Did AIG get $85 billion to pay CCC’s $16 billion thanks to Bush family connections? Does anyone in the federal government ever actually sit down and take a look at the books of these companies? Or do names like Mellon and Bush Sr. scare them too much after what the two men did to Bill Clinton?

III. On the Theory That I Can Not Possibly Be The Only Person Who Has Seen the Zombies in the Room, I Turned to Google and Found This Book Written in 2003

It is called Carlyle Group: Anatomy of a Scam by Uri Dowbenko. The author discusses Carlyle Group history, including their ties to the Bin Laden family. I like this summary of how they make money:

“The Carlyle Group is a quintessential Bushonian operation,” says Al. “In other words, they don’t use a dime of the firm’s own capital, nor a dime of the firms partners capital. Including Frank Carlucci, etc. They use exclusively borrowed money and/or limited partnerships that they form to stick stock into. It is a 100% OPM company .”

Snip

So how do they get enough liquid capital to buy assets? Is it through the funding by the limited partners? And how did they acquire United Defense? Carlyle Group, after all, is the definition of the prototypical “bottom feeder,” (buying bankrupt companies for pennies on the dollar) albeit on an unprecedented global scale.

Snip

“If you look at the banks that the Carlyle Group does business with, they are the same banks that all the large Bushonian frauds ($50 million and above) have been committed through. These include Credit Lyonnais, The Bank of Greece, The Jarlska Bank of Denmark, Credit Suisse, Daiwa, Banque Paribas, etc. It’s the same 12 banks again and again that these frauds have been perpetrated through, Banque Paribas Panama, Banque Paribas EAB.”


http://www.conspiracydigest.com/carlyle_group.html

IV.My. Just….my!

Here were have a company made up of zombies that roam the world taking other people’s important, life sustaining stuff---you know, their brains---and snatching it to use as food. Without a care in the world for the havoc they leave in their wake. At best, they convert their victims to their cause. Everyman for himself! At worst, their victims die.



And the son of one of their Most Important Members, ex-President George W. Bush just spent the last eight years driving down the cost of most of the real estate, businesses and other assets in this country. Then, he handed out hundreds of billions of dollars, some of which almost certainly will make its way into the hands (through a bookkeeping maneuver or a blackmail scheme or bribery) of the folks at Carlyle (or one of their associate firms, I don’t think that they want to be linked with the term vulture fund so Blackstone is getting stuck with the label). Carlyle seems to have a knack for persuading banks to pretend that Carlyle is flush with money that they do not really have. Carlyle will use this Monopoly money to buy up all of our Important Stuff and it will eat our brains declare them yummy, sell them for a hefty profit, become the rulers of the world----

---and the sons of bitches still will not be satisfied, because they are a bunch of freakin’ zombies.

V. So Simple Even a Zombie Could Follow This

Carlyle Group Sees. Carlyle Group Wants. Carlyle Group Seizes. Carlyle Group Devours. Carlyle Group Regurgitates the Mess on Our Doorstep. Repeat.


And the answer to the question I posed in II a. Who is the egg? . I do not have a solid answer, but I have a suspicion that the U.S. taxpayer is the egg which paid for the $16.6 billion mistake when we bailed out AIG. I would be ever so pleased if someone in the new Obama administration would look into it.
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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 06:43 AM
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1. kick
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rucognizant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 09:50 AM
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45. What REALLY bothers me..................
Is all their mediochre, anonymous, young to middle aged wannabes, clogging the free flow of society, in the name of greed entitlement, and "capitalism"!.
My first internet connection was through a dial up IP formed and owned by an old hippy ( ponytail down the back, black T shirt, & jeans) middle school teacher) The service was great. They were available from 7:30 am -7:30 pm if you had a problem. Then he sold the company to a young hotshot chicky with a Yale MBA business model. First thing she did was send me a letter, requiring MY TIME to mark how I was going to PAY HER! check, credit card, monthly , yearly, stamp it and walk it out to the mailbox. The 5 or 10 minutes of my time wasn't great ( although any left brain activity that interrupts the right brain hemisphere flow I need to produce artwork,m is an imposition) And the cost of the stamp wasn't that great! The second item was, the office was only staffed from 9am-noon, now if you lost your internet in the afernoon NO HELP! I was sophisticated enough at this point to see the hand of Yale HArvard etc. MBA "new way of doing business"! We had a big fight over something else I don't even remember...because Verizon provided DSL to my part of town and I switched. My friend is still with that company, they now have DSL too, and she suffers big time periods of being down/no internet!
My currant indignity? I joined an online sales site for art & crafts.............the 40 something guy, talked me into having a houseparty (at my place) to sell others on participating. The DEAL? small listing fee, 10% commission on sctual sales. I was the first one to make a sale. He listed the sales, who sold, who bought & their location, ( thought that was tacky) So I can see that in the last 4 months there have been only 6 sales, mine at $45.00 being the highest price paid. So NOW he has decided to let us all support HIM for the priviledge of an artist's craftsmans membership with an additional fee for an online shop! I CAN"T HAVE a shop unless I pay $79.00 for the groupie thing. I am 30 years ahead of these people, not much they can teach me, he is young and healthy and HAS A WIFE also capable if working........I am 70, and 1/2 dead from coping with the 4 & 5' piles of ice, in my yard, making it difficult to get to the grocery store for food. 1/9th of each of my last 2 months of SS income, has gone to the guy with the snow plow, ( parking area only, not walkways in the yard) and I am supposed to pay $79.00 for the priviledge of spending more of my time to make a facebook to communicate ideas with these people. ( His craft? polishing and drilling holes in beach rocks hanging them on a chain and calling it a necklace....not exactly Picasso!)
WHen income was slim, I tended bar, cleaned houses...........WHat I NEED is BUYERS; Not social interaction!
I am disappinted! The enemy is all around! The younger "entitled" are spoiled rotten, don't have a clue about hardship...................
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Kip Humphrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 07:22 AM
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2. Causes one to ponder the engineering of the collapsing economy as part of a grand strategy for
global fascism.
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Jambalaya Donating Member (359 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 02:18 PM
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20. Images of Man
Ponder no longer...

Analysis
The planned collapse of America
By Peter Chamberlin--------------Online Journal

Stanford University Blueprint for America,circa 70's,"Images of Man"
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Jambalaya Donating Member (359 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 02:23 PM
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22. Link to "Changing Images of Man"
The planned collapse of AmericaDec 7, 2007 ... Their final report was released as the Changing Images of Man. ... Changing Images of Man predicts an American economic collapse and a ...
www.onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_2715.shtml - 33k - Cached - Similar pages
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Kip Humphrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 07:49 PM
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29. Thanks for the link... A blast from the past...
While I agreed with the motives (need for societal cooperation over competition, building sustainability, etc.), I rankled at the means (manipulation, propaganda, and pessimism, lack of support for technical means & solutions, reliance on global fascism as a means to an end) and many of the underlying "nature of man" (B.F. Skinner, et al.) assumptions which pretty much encapsulate my strong opposition to the globalists. Interestingly, Joseph Campbell divorced himself from this before he died for much the same reasons.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 04:13 AM
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40. Have you read Naomi Klein -- Shock Doctrine? Of course
it is a strategy to bring fascism to the world. That is precisely what it is.
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Jambalaya Donating Member (359 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 02:18 PM
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46. Cruel and Unusual-Bush and Cheney's New World Order
Years before Ms. Klein valuable work, Mark Crispin Miller wrote a book entitled Cruel and Unusual.

On the heels of his earlier work,the Bush Dyslexicon, it was never given the kudos it deserve ,imho. However, upon seeing his interview on C-Span,I IMMEDIATELY rushed down to my local bookstore to purchase a copy.

PLEASE go to Amazon.com and read the reviews on this prescient book. It is a true jeremiad.MANY of the issues dicussed have come to either pass or be revealed. Especially the rigging of elections,and the truth of Scott Ritter's assertions.

BTW,Miller posts a lot along with Larisa Alexandrovna.














Amazon.com: Cruel and Unusual: Bush/Cheney's New World Order: Mark ...Cruel and Unusual makes a compelling case by providing massive amounts of evidence, ..... Mark Crispin Miller's "Cruel and Unusual: Bush/Cheney's New World Order" .... American history: postwar, from c 1945 - · International relations ...
www.amazon.com/Cruel-Unusual-Cheneys-World-Order/dp/0393326780 - 313k - Cached - Similar pages
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OnyxCollie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 07:33 AM
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3. K&R. nt
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 09:00 AM
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4. Thank you! K & R nt
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 09:22 AM
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5. 1 Timothy 6:10
"10For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs."

I'll bet the Devil laughed his ass off with glee at the irony of our fearless Bible/Chest thumping mis-leaders putting the words "In God We Trust" on money...

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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 10:28 AM
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6. An old reminder, Carlyle's co-founder was a staffer under Jimmy CARTER
There was a veritable NEST of vipers at CARTER's breast: This Carlyle dude (why he pitched into the B.F.E.E. instead of camping with Dems is a mystery); then there's Tweety; and Pat CADDELL, whose only success was being credited with CARTER's win, then went on to foul every candidate he worked for, including the New Coke, and now has spent YEARS trashing all Dems as being more impure than he.


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http://prorev.com/bushcarlyle.htm

HOW BUSH GOT BOUNCED FROM CARLYLE BOARD


SUZAN MAZUR

.... But when we were putting the board together, somebody (Fred Malek) came to me and said, "Look there is a guy who would like to be on the board. He's kind of down on his luck a bit. Needs a job. Needs a board position. Needs some board positions. Could you put him on the board? Pay him a salary and he'll be a good board member and be a loyal vote for the management and so forth."

I said, "Well we're not usually in that business. But okay, let me meet the guy." I met the guy. I said, "I don't think he adds that much value. We'll put him on the board because - you know - we'll do a favor for this guy; he's done a favor for us."

We put him on the board and (he) spent three years. Came to all the meetings. Told a lot of jokes. Not that many clean ones. And after a while I kind of said to him, "After about three years - you know, I'm not sure this is really for you. Maybe you should do something else. Because I don't think you're adding that much value to the board. You don't know that much about the company."

He said, "Well I think I'm getting out of this business anyway. And I don't really like it that much. So I'm probably going to resign from the board."

And I said, thanks - didn't think I'd ever see him again. His name is George W. Bush. He became President of the United States. So you know if you said to me, name 25 million people who would maybe be President of the United States, he wouldn't have been in that category. So you never know. Anyway, I haven't been invited to the White House for any things.


http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=David_M._Rubenstein

David M. Rubenstein
From SourceWatch

David M. Rubenstein was presidential advisor to James Earl Carter, Jr.. He is a member of the Trilateral Commission and he is a director of the Institute for International Economics. He is on the board of trustees of Freedom House.

In 1987, Rubenstein founded the investment house Carlyle Group with $5 million. The Washington-based merchant bank is now worth $14 billion in investments. Carlyle is described as one of the most connected companies: former president George Herbert Walker Bush is an adviser; former British prime minister John Major heads the European branch; former secretary of state James Addison Baker III is senior counselor; former White House budget chief Richard Darman is a partner; and former SEC chairman Arthur Levitt is a senior adviser.(1)

Carlyle purchased United Defense Industries, the largest defense contractor in the U.S.

"Prior to co-founding Carlyle in 1987, Mr. Rubenstein practiced law in New York, with the firm of Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison; served as Deputy Assistant to the President for Domestic Policy in the Carter Administration; and practiced law in Washington, D.C., with the firm of Shaw, Pittman, Potts & Trowbridge.

"Mr. Rubenstein is a magna cum laude graduate of Duke University, where he was a member of Phi Beta Kappa, and a graduate of the University of Chicago Law School, where he was an editor of the Law Review.

"Mr. Rubenstein is a ... Director of the International Institute of Economics and the Center for Strategic and International Studies; the Board of Trustees of Johns Hopkins University, Duke University, the John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts and the Lincoln Center for the Performing Arts; the Visiting Committee of the Kennedy School of Government at Harvard; and the Board of Advisors of J.P. Morgan Chase.

"Mr. Rubenstein is married to Alice Rogoff Rubenstein." (2)

Director, National Museum of Natural History (1)

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Jambalaya Donating Member (359 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 01:20 PM
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11. Magna cum laude purchases Magna Carta
The Existentialist Cowboy: With Bush in their pocket, the Carlyle ...Dec 19, 2007 ... With Bush in their pocket, the Carlyle Group buys the "Birth .... Bush is a latter-day Richard Topcliffe, a monster who presumes to occupy ...
existentialistcowboy.blogspot.com/2007/12/with-bush-in-their-pocket-carlyle-group.html - 448k - Cached - Similar pages
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 02:04 PM
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17. David Rockefeller helped put Carter in office---and helped Reagan-Bush negotiate with Iran
in 1980 so they could take over from Carter. These folks plan ahead and they munch brains on both sides of the aisle. They think they are going to feast on Obama administration brains, too.

Anyone want to lay odds?
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Jambalaya Donating Member (359 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 05:30 PM
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28. David Rockefeller's New World Order
Changing Images of Man predicts an American economic collapse and a "garrison" (police) state," if the overwhelming inequities of our economic system are not corrected by powerful multinationals making more humane decisions. Alternatives to this doomsday scenario are discussed, all of which point to the need to devote all available resources towards transforming the image of man, changing man's nature, instead of altering the corrupted economic system which has brought America to this dire state.

Instead of charging the people who are responsible for our situation (such as men like David Rockefeller), for manipulating our economy and our democracy to maximize their profits, the multi-national corporations and their owners were exalted as the potential saviors of mankind. Rockefeller and the elite have consistently taken steps to dominate the world by controlling people through "humanitarian" projects which, in the end, turn out to be profit mechanisms

Here David Rockefeller admits media collusion with his one world plans:

"We are grateful to the Washington Post, the New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the light of publicity during those years. But now the world is more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supra-national sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries."_______________________Excerpt,"The Changing Images of Man".......Stanford Research Institute document....Online Journal

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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 10:35 AM
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7. Hey, doesn't Carlyle own Dunkin Donuts too? Support depopulation thru Diabetes.
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JohnnyBoots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 11:35 AM
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8. Yes, they do. Dr. Pepper and 7 up too. See Link.
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 12:53 PM
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9. That got bought out in 2006 by Cadbury-Schweppes
According to Wikipedia:

"In early 2006, Cadbury Schweppes purchased the remainder of Dr Pepper/Seven Up, Inc. and Dr Pepper/Seven Up Bottling Group from The Carlyle Group."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr_Pepper/Seven_Up

So I think I can breathe a bit easier having a Dr. Pepper. Unless Cadbury-Schweppes is as bad as the Carlyle Group? :shrug:

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Jambalaya Donating Member (359 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 01:10 PM
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10. Mitt Romney and Carlyle Connection Link
TPMDC | Talking Points Memo | Private Equity and EFCAJan 27, 2009 ... Dunkin Donuts is owned by a partnership of Bain Capital, Mitt Romney's old firm, the Carlyle Group and Thomas H. Lee Partners. ...
tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/01/private-equity-and-efca.php - 47k
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Crooked Moon Donating Member (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 01:35 PM
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12. none of this, of course,
kept leon panetta from speaking to them and pocketing $28,000.
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Jambalaya Donating Member (359 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 01:40 PM
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13. Nursing Homes and Hospitals
Bain Capital(founded by Mitt Romney), and the Hospital Corporations of America,(HCA ) acquisition:~~~~~~~

The founders of HCA included two members of the Frist family, which became very wealthy as a result. The former majority leader of the U.S. Senate, Bill Frist is a member of the family but sold all his HCA shares in 2005. Most of his $20 million (or more) personal fortune was made through his holdings in HCA.
In 1989, the hospital operator was acquired for $5.3 billion in a management buyout led by Chairman Thomas J. Frist and completed a successful initial public offering in the 1990s. In the late-1990s, after a merger with Louisville-based Columbia Hospital Corporation which formed Columbia/HCA, the company was investigated by the government for Medicare and Medicaid fraud and paid a settlement of $1.7 billion, the largest fraud settlement in US history at the time.

On July 1, 2005, Senator Frist sold all of his HCA shares two weeks before disappointing earnings sent the stock on a 9-point plunge. Frist claimed that he sold his shares to avoid the appearance of a conflict of interest if he ran for president. Other executives sold their stock at the same time.
Shareholders sued HCA in a lawsuit alleging that the company made false claims about their profits to drive up the price which then fell when the company reported disappointing financial results.

In 2006, Kohlberg Kravis Roberts and Bain Capital, together with Merrill Lynch and the Frist family (which had founded the company) completed a $31.6 billion acquisition of the hospital company, 17 years after it was taken private for the first time in a management buyout. At the time of its announcement, the HCA buyout would be the first of several to set new records for the largest buyout, eclipsing the 1989 buyout of RJR Nabisco.The shareholder lawsuit was settled in August 2007 with HCA agreeing to pay $20 million to the shareholders.~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~WIKIPEDIA
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Jambalaya Donating Member (359 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 03:43 PM
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23. Bain Capital Investments Rundown
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Bain Capital LLC is a Boston-based private equity firm founded in 1984 by partners from the consulting firm Bain & Company. Originally conceived as a leveraged buyout and venture capital fund, Bain Capital today manages approximately $80 billion in assets, and its strategies include private equity & venture capital as well as long/short public equity, credit products, and global macro hedge funds.


Bain Capital was founded in 1984 by Bain & Company partners Willard Mitt Romney, T. Coleman Andrews III, and Eric Kriss. In addition to the three founding partners, the early team included Fraser Bullock, Robert F. White, Joshua Bekenstein, Adam Kirsch, Stephen Pagliuca and Geoffrey S. Rehnert. Bain Capital's original $37 million fund was raised entirely from private individuals in mid-1984, led by Ricardo Poma, a Salvadoran businessman.

One of the fund's first start-up investments was Staples, Inc., the $15 billion office supply retailer. The funding enabled Staples to expand from one store in 1986 to nearly 1,700 in 2006.


Twenty years after its inception, Bain Capital manages approximately $80 billion in assets, and has founded, acquired, or invested in hundreds of companies including AMC Entertainment, Brookstone, Burger King, Burlington Coat Factory, Domino's Pizza, DoubleClick, Guitar Center, HCA, Sealy, The Sports Authority, Toys R Us, Unisource, Warner Music Group and The Weather Channel.
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rucognizant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 08:37 AM
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41. And my old hospital............
when I had thyroid surgery in 1982, was a PRIVATE DR. OWNED, EXCELLENT, hospital, is now
"Virtua vir·tu·ous Listen to the pronunciation of virtuous
Pronunciation:\ˈvər-chə-wəs, ˈvərch-wəs\
Function: adjective Date: 14th century
1: potent, efficacious
2 a: having or exhibiting virtue b: morally excellent : righteous <a virtuous decision>3: chaste
synonyms see moral— vir·tu·ous·ly adverb— vir·tu·ous·ness noun
"Nothing here about excellence," skill, empathy, serving!
It has also sucked up 3 other area hospitals, so if you are sick/injured....you have no choice except to drive into Philly for treatment..25 miles.! Part owner of the Virtua Group is GE! That's right General ELectric weapons maker!
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ellie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 01:43 PM
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14. Geez
Tell us something that we don't know! Ha!

Thanks for the post. It was very informative!
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Jambalaya Donating Member (359 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 01:48 PM
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15. AIG,CIA,CARLYLE GROUP
Have you ever read any of Lucy Komisar's articles,or listened to her interviews?

She has done seminal work on BCCI,the Bushes,Kissinger and the intricate histories of these organizations.It is beyond me WHY she is not given more recogntion.

Her "Game as old as Empire" is stunning.Her website is the Komisar Scoop,and indeed should be included as a must on one's favorites list ,when researching these matters.

BTW, she is a founding member of Tax Justice Network.International watchdogs of tax havens and tax avoidance scams used by corporate entities.Excellent venue!
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 02:01 PM
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16. Bushes should've been fully exposed after BCCI report - they were PROTECTED by key Democrats
in power during the 90s.

The disconnect of too many Dems to REALIZE that fact has made it difficult for those Dems who side with ACCOUNTABILITY.
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Jambalaya Donating Member (359 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 02:12 PM
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18. Stanford isn't just a university
...WMR reported: "WMR's report about 'Sir R Allen Stanford and his Stanford Financial Group in Houston buying up land in Antigua and Barbuda and running roughshod over the government of that nation turned up an interesting important footnote to the story. Stanford's Houston offices are directly across Westheimer Road in the part of the Galleria complex where Carlyle Group offices are located. Coincidence? Not with the Bush criminal cartel."

The FBI is reportedly now investigating Stanford's firms for laundering money for Mexico's Gulf drug cartel. Stanford, Houston, off-shore banks, and drugs equal the perfect brew for another Bush family criminal cartel operation tied to the CIA." Stanford a cog in the U.S. intelligence dirty money laundering machine - Online Journal <02/24/2009>
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 02:16 PM
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19. Stanford and Madoff are BFEE operatives - just like Marc Rich.
.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 02:18 PM
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21. interesting you should say that
all of these should be behind bars
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Jambalaya Donating Member (359 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 03:50 PM
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24. Mormon Mafia
Ever think about the ascent of Mormonism in the halls of power within the last 30 years or so?

Remember how Howard Hughes hired a lot of Mormons back in his Las Vegas hermit days?

Hmm,Las Vegas,Nevada. Why isn't Nevada the home state of,among other things,Top Capo Harry Reid?

Type Mormon Mafia in the search engine of your choice.You might be surprised at the results.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 04:18 PM
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25. Using religious leaders is a key tactic for BFEE - kill real Catholic bishops in Central America and
Edited on Mon Mar-02-09 04:23 PM by blm
replace them with your operatives. Put money into growing Fundamentalist movement in US, and Opus Dei exerts greatest control on Supreme Court.

The last few decades of Mormon Mafia is just an ADDITIONAL line of defense for BushInc - the funding of fundamentalism in EVERY religion increased rapidly since the 70s. EVERY religion.
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Jambalaya Donating Member (359 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 05:22 PM
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27. "Christian Mafia" by Wayne Madsen link
THE “CHRISTIAN” MAFIA

The term “Christian Mafia” is what several Washington politicians have termed the major conspirators and it is not intended to debase Christians or infer ...
www.insider-magazine.com/ChristianMafia.htm - 238k - Cached - Similar pages___________________________________________________



This is a very long article,BUT it is SO worth the effort to bookmark it and read in increments if necessary. You will NOT be disappointed. It is an absolute must to acquaint oneself with the Arlington ,Virginia group who uses Christianity as a brand to conceal its Fascist roots and political agenda,using both national and international politicos-going back to, and including, the Watergate plumbers.

Extremely explicit and pulls no punches.What a read-and it's TRUE!
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rucognizant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 08:55 AM
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42. You better believe it is true!
I have had the Christian Mafia bookmarked and refer to it frequently, for the past 5 or 6 years! Interestingly every so often, there is a currant news item that corresponds with info in the C M. article. John Baldacci former COngressman, now Gov of MAine, statyed in the boarding house in DC, run by the C M. When he became Gov. the local paper published a little noticed story "DISCLAIMING" any association with that group. Being a modest family man, it was just the least expensive lodging in DC. On occasion I have had a chance to chat & looked into his eyes..and found this to be true and his motives only the best! ( The cities of Augusta ad Bangor already run on Green energy....and he has initiated an experimental tidal generator in the Bay of Fundy vicinity!
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Jambalaya Donating Member (359 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 09:00 PM
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31. Hewlett /Stanford
Special Reports
Stanford's shadowy financial empire
By Wayne Madsen

(WMR) -- No one will ever know just how Charlesworth Shelley Hewlett, who ran CAS Hewlett & Company out of a small office sandwiched between fish and chips shops on South Bury Road in Enfield in north London, came to be the accountant for Allen Stanford's $50 billion financial empire that included Stanford International Bank (SIB). That is because Mr. Hewlett, known as a quiet gray-haired man to those who had offices in his north London office block, died "peacefully" a few weeks before the Stanford scandal hit the front pages. Hewlett was 73 but no one knows the reason for Hewlett's death.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 04:25 PM
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26. kick
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muntrv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 08:59 PM
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30. Carlyle is to Bush Crime Family as Genco Olive Oil is to Corleone Crime Family.
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Baby Snooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 12:16 AM
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32. The Rothschild Wannabes....
Edited on Tue Mar-03-09 12:20 AM by Baby Snooks
The reality of the Carlyle Group is that it was formed by men who believed themselves to be Rothschilds but mistakenly believed the Rothschilds got rich off other people's money the way the Bushes did. The Rothschilds did but then took their profit and provided it as capital in what was really the beginning of venture capitalism. They made everyone rich and made themselves even richer. When JP Morgan died, it was estimated that 80% of his fortune was actually the Rothschild fortune. They owned part of literally everything.

Samuel Bush got rich off the Rockefeller money and then Prescott Bush got rich off the Harriman money and then Geroge HW Bush got rich off Precott's money and then George W Bush got rich off the taxpayer's money along with quite a few others in the 1980s and 1990s which saw the birth of vulture capitalism which is behind the economic theory that has basically destroyed the world economy. If they planned it, it only proves that they are not the brightest light bulbs.

Even bailed out the Carlyle Group and various corporate entities probably only have a couple of billion in actual assets. The rest is debt. Which is part of a total debt on the part of the banks and hedge funds that is estimated at this point to be in the trillions of dollars.

The Rothschilds don't believe in debt. And their assets are estimated to be in the trillions of dollars.

The Bushes without doubt are the most evil family in America but without doubt they are also not the brightest family in America.

The vultures have nothing left to eat but the carcasses of what they've already eaten.

We simply cannot cover all the debt and at some point the entire economic system as we know it is going to completely collapse.

Eventually the Rothschilds will get hungry and devour the vultures and then recaptalize the economic systems.
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Baby Snooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 01:22 AM
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35. The real dynasty....
http://www.rothschild.com

They're doing quite well. They're literally their own economy at this point.

http://www.rothschild.com/officesworldwide/

Click on China. They waited patiently for 1999 and probably have provided the bulk of the capital that made capitalism possible for the Chinese. Some Chinese have gotten rich. And they have made the Rothschilds even richer. And as they've gotten richer, they've expanded their empire. They are really the real dynasty.
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bottomtheweaver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 01:06 AM
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33. These Bushlers make the Nazis look virtuous.
What's really disturbing is that for all their greed and depravity, the Nazis at least pursued something greater than their indvidual enrichment. These guys don't even have that much class.
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rucognizant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 09:15 AM
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44. Nazis yes!
At least they enabled the "people's" car; VOLKS VOGAN= folks wagon.
I'm still getting 50 m p gal. on my 24 year old Diesel Rabbit! And I just slushed out of my snowy parking place yesterday with out having to shovel! ( Does as good a job as a 4 wheel drive $40,000 SUV!)
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Idealism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 01:20 AM
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34. Needs more zombie pics, IMO!
:D
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 01:30 AM
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36. Actually, that's Hulu.
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pam4water Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 01:34 AM
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37. The head of Freddie Mac resigning now was at Carlyle for a While. Man these guys are inse
"Meanwhile, the Government received another blow yesterday when the chief executive of Freddie Mac, the nationalised American mortgage giant, resigned after only five months in the job. David Moffett, who joined Freddie Mac last September as the mortgage lender and guarantor was being taken into state control, said that he wanted to return to a role in the financial services sector, where he had been chief financial officer of US Bancorp and a senior adviser at Carlyle Group. "

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/banking_and_finance/article5835257.ece
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 02:13 AM
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38. oh jeez...and to think i was going to ask for a "link" when i saw the title of the op.
well, i guess clicking on this thread certainly took the wind out of my smartass sails.

:rofl:
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 04:12 AM
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39. Interesting and very readable.
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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 08:58 AM
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43. Bookmarking for later consumption.
I read the first 2 paragraphs of this piece and could feel the bile and fury begin to flow.

I want to be able to read this with an objective brain. There's lots of information here and lots to digest and I want to understand every single bit of it.

:patriot:



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