Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Pet owners....How does it feel to be suckered?

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
 
Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 06:22 PM
Original message
Pet owners....How does it feel to be suckered?


Human beings in the Third World know all about receiving questionable, tainted or infected commodities from Western nations.

http://ngin.tripod.com/JM087.htm

http://www.guardian.co.uk/famine/story/0,12128,805826,00.html

http://www.foodfirst.org/media/display.phpid384

http://www.gene.ch/genet/2002/Jun/msg00015.html

http://www.globalissues.org/TradeRelated/Poverty/FoodDumping/Intro.asp



This time, we are the suckers.

Just wondering if anyone else sees the irony.



Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
MikeNearMcChord Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 06:24 PM
Response to Original message
1. I would like to know if there are any conservative
or libertarian pet owners who still think that government should get out their lives, and or let businesses regulate themselves?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 06:28 PM
Response to Reply #1
3. The market will regulate pet foods.
When enough people's pets die, the people will stop buying that brand of dog food. Eventually, when enough pets die from testing the various brands of food, the people will have a complete list of the offending foods and stop buying them. It will only take a few years and a few million pets.

Works the same way for baby food. The market will control quality.

No, I'm not adding a sarcasm gif. The above IS how objectivism works.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
progdonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 06:33 PM
Response to Reply #3
5. do objectivists own pets?
I would think they'd be incapable of caring for anyone or anything other than themselves.... :eyes:

I'm sure they'll find some way to blame this on regulation, though, just like the privatized "care" at Walter Reed is apparently evidence in support of privatization.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 07:35 PM
Response to Reply #5
18. Only pets that pull their own weight, and don't lay around looking for a handout. nm
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 08:38 PM
Response to Reply #3
24. its not sarcasm. That's exactly how the free market works, lol
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 06:31 PM
Response to Reply #1
4. Of course and that's a good quesiton

They're happy to watch Spot or Fluffy writhe in agony as long as their shares in Menu Foods' stock bring a profit.

Look what they tolerate in Iraq in the name of the almighty $$$. If they don't care about humans writhing in pain for oil, they damned sure don't care about mere animals dying from cheap food if it makes the company more of a profit.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mr_hat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 07:10 PM
Response to Reply #1
14. Pets should regulate themselves.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 07:31 PM
Response to Reply #14
16. Then I'd get one! :)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
piesRsquare Donating Member (960 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 08:33 PM
Response to Reply #14
23. My pets (cats) regulate themselves!
When they feel constipated, they jump up on my bookcase (while I'm sleeping) and chew on my plant! :rofl:

I have to do something about that, because that plant is not good for them...

Updated pet food recall info: http://2blackcats.wordpress.com
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 06:27 PM
Response to Original message
2. what goes around comes around in some fashion
Also now did you know places in Africa are using DDT to kill mosquitos? Apparantly they are being told in small amounts its the best way to control malaria and its really not that dangerous, Rachel Carson did "junk science". Please. Even if it works in the short term anything that is a proven killer of the natural controls on mosquitoes (birds) is just going to make things worse eventually.
Selfishly, though why does this have to be at the possible expense of my kitties?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 06:35 PM
Response to Reply #2
6. I hear you


I am cooking rice for critters as we speak. Dunno what I will buy to feed them this week, I am so disgusted with the whole business of commercial feeds.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 06:36 PM
Response to Original message
7. my pets eat like kings
organic hippy pet food. expensive as hell.

except for trader joe's Tuna For Cats. that's cheap, but its all (gross bits of) tuna.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 06:39 PM
Response to Reply #7
9. I can't afford that
the premium feed goes to the horses.

I am letting the chickens help feed the dogs. Found a little stash of eggs and I'm adding those and some gravy to the rice.

I'm seriously afraid to feed anything commercially made.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
progdonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 08:07 PM
Response to Reply #7
20. my sister has her dog on a raw food diet...
but he's just a little Westie (and a smaller than average one at that), so it lasts a while. If she had gotten a bigger dog, she wouldn't be able to afford it at all.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Holly_Hobby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 08:11 PM
Response to Reply #20
22. I have 4 big dogs and buy in bulk
I use a freezer I got on Freecycle. It saves us $70/month vs. kibble.

If you have cats or small dogs, it's VERY expensive, but so is veterinary care for liver or kidney failure. But on the other hand, euthanasia is only about $75.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
susanna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 10:13 PM
Response to Reply #7
27. "Gross bits of tuna make for very happy cats."
I'm sure a philosopher somewhere has said those very words. :-)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 06:37 PM
Response to Original message
8. "Menu Foods INCOME FUND" Kind of Says It All, Doesn't It?
Edited on Mon Mar-26-07 06:38 PM by AndyTiedye
Of course, that never appears on any pet food label, anywhere.

http://www.menufoods.com/
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 06:41 PM
Response to Reply #8
10. It's all about the bottom line


And they say our ancestors were savages......I'd say today's stockholders are some serious competition.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 06:50 PM
Response to Reply #10
11. It's a serious wake up call
about the HUMAN food pipeline.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 07:08 PM
Response to Reply #11
13. It is indeed. This could just as easily have gone into human foods. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 07:29 PM
Response to Reply #13
15. The possibility that it already HAS
and symptoms were written off to other causes looms large. :scared:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 07:32 PM
Response to Reply #15
17. Ooh, true enough
and very scary!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
progdonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 08:05 PM
Response to Reply #8
19. sheesh... you'd think they'd at least change that front photo...
At least there's the small silver lining that the stock price has gone down almost 50% since the recall was announced, so at least the company is already feeling some hurt... which will be nothing when the lawsuits start coming.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
China_cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 07:02 PM
Response to Original message
12. Some of us go way back with fighting
Nestle's for the baby formula sent to Aftrica. For several reasons...no safe water to mix it, people would mix it too thin to make it go farther, and...the worst...the missing amino acids that was causing serious brain damage in infants.

We've always wondered when they'd turn it on us here at home. I didn't, however, expect it to be a Canadian company. I thought they were more ethical than American businesses.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 09:25 PM
Response to Reply #12
26. We've been insulated from this nastiness for the most part


And we live in a nation where there is still some semblance of consumer rights. You've no doubt imagined, as I have, how frustrating and tragic this sort of thing is to people living in places where they have no recourse against huge corporations.

And we wonder why many people in the Third World hate America?

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Holly_Hobby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 08:10 PM
Response to Original message
21. Humans should stop trying to improve on Mother Nature
And stop putting their pets' well being into the hands of corporations. In my not so humble opinion :)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Dorian Gray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 08:59 PM
Response to Original message
25. I am thankful
that my cat does not use any of the tainted products. It's scary, though, and maddening that this is happening to all those innocent animals.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
anitar1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 10:15 PM
Response to Original message
28. I think many pet owners will either cook their
own pet food or buy organic. there are lots of organics out there. I have researched since this recall was issued.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Sun May 05th 2024, 12:50 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC