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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 06:09 PM
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Guns in church? No problem!
Arkansas considers allowing concealed weapons in churches

Muriel Kane
Published: Saturday February 14, 2009

A bill moving through the Arkansas state legislature would allow worshippers to bring concealed weapons into churches if the church has approved that as its policy. At present, holders of concealed weapons permits cannot bring guns into bars, schools, government facilities, athletic events, or houses of worship.

The controversial legislation, which passed the Arkansas House this week and is now pending before a Senate committee, was introduced by Rep. Beverly Pyle in response to several recent church shootings. However, its most active supporters insist that their primary concern is upholding the separation of church and state and that the state does not have the constitutional right to prevent churches from setting their own rules.

The bill's strongest opponents appear to be the pastors themselves, One minister, Ken Burton, suggested there were political motivations behind the legislation, telling the Baxter Bulletin that "he’s aware of staunch political affiliations between candidates for public office, elected officials and the National Rifle Association’s pro-gun platform."

Several ministers are concerned about the negative effect that concealed guns could have on the peace and tranquility of church services. Pastor Ron Rector suggested, "Some places still need to be sacred, and that is one place I hope would remain sacred."

Rev. Mark Lenneville similarly noted, "It’s not in line with what we believe theologically and has not been the tradition for Christianity through the centuries. Often, the church is viewed as a sanctuary where the government does not have power and authority, a place where people could seek sanctuary from the government and other outsiders."
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more: http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Arkansas_considers_allowing_concealed_weapons_in_0214.html
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 06:11 PM
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1. Why don't they put up those big gun detectors like they have in grammar schools?
Or high schools. Or wherever they are.

If they're good enough for children, they're good enough for Christians, I say.
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 06:13 PM
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2. Reminds me of the Carlin routine about "disgruntled worshippers". LOL.
Edited on Wed Feb-18-09 06:13 PM by NC_Nurse
:o
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 06:19 PM
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6. Yeah I just realized that this is Carlin's bit come to life!
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 06:13 PM
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3. Love thy enemy, but carry an immaculate 9mm.
The world is just plain comical now.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 06:18 PM
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4. The Lord hath rested on the sabbath day, and he did packeth much heat.
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 06:18 PM
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5. Preacher says "Just putcher money inna basket, nobuddy gets hurt"
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 06:30 PM
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7. Thank goodness...
"Some places still need to be sacred, and that is one place I hope would remain sacred."

I fully concur. Thank goodness my church doesn't allow firearms in the sanctuary or on the premises, I'd hate to find another church to attend.

To me, a mixture of guns and churches is like a mixture of potato chips and mini-blinds. Although many people may like that particular combination, I certainly do not...
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 06:31 PM
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8. It would seem to do otherwise would violate the Constitution.
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steelmania75 Donating Member (836 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 06:31 PM
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9. Rednecks...
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DKRC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 06:54 PM
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10. Sounds like a fine idea
Most of the folks who "needed killin" were sitting in church every Sunday morning while I was growing up.
Praise the Lord & pass the ammo!

:evilgrin:
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Raine1967 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 06:59 PM
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11. Is Arkansas trying to keep up with Georgia again?
http://www.georgiapacking.org/gflnol.php

Good thing I can take a gun to the Wachovia Bank in Athens... :sarcasm:


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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 07:16 PM
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12. Praise the Lord or eat shit, motherfucker!!!!!
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