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Cirque du So-What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 01:31 PM
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Robert Redford's 'Sneakers'
For the first time since it appeared on movie screens in 1992, I watched the movie Sneakers a few minutes ago on Encore. This time, however, the movie percolated through my consciousness filtered by the experiences of these past eight years. Dan Aykroyd's character was the resident 'conspiracy theorist' who mentioned scenarios that are still being mulled over today. It's other things in the movie that have come to pass (and that we now take for granted) that make Sneakers such a great film that has endured the test of time.

Although fictional, this film can serve to remind the public that there are post-9/11 laws to overturn and rights to restore. After all there's a Constitution to uphold!
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 01:35 PM
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1. It also has one of the funniest lines
ever spoken in a movie, and I'll bet it slipped right past you.

Hint: it's delivered by Robert Redford as he's directing the blind guy.

Breaks me up just to think of it.

Yes, it's a great movie, and quite prescient, hmmmm?
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dem629 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 01:37 PM
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3. My favorite funny line from the movie:
Whistler: I want peace on earth and goodwill toward men.

Bernard Abbott: We are the United States Government. We don't do that sort of thing.
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Cirque du So-What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 01:41 PM
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4. Would that be the one
where he tells the blind driver that he's going to encounter a 'very gentle slope?'
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 02:13 PM
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10. No, but
you're getting close........
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Trekologer Donating Member (445 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 02:20 PM
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12. I believe it is along the lines of..
Keep your eyes on the road.
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 02:22 PM
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13. Nope.
Another hint - it's really filthy and goes by really fast.
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Geoff R. Casavant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 05:41 PM
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31. I give up.
Do tell.
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 06:03 PM
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33. OK
Edited on Sat Feb-14-09 06:04 PM by Tangerine LaBamba
I'm going to get some details wrong, I am certain - but I got the basics down.

It happens so fast, you have to stop the DVD and play it over and over to make sure you heard what you thought you heard.

You did.

There's a scene where Redford is taking to (I think) the blind guy. (He might be talking, via remote, to another of the guys, so I'm not positive it's the blind guy.)

He's giving the guy directions on how to get something done. I don't think it's when he's got the blind guy driving the van - it's another scene, and it involves the guy telling a woman something.

So, Redford is quietly and quickly reciting what the guy needs to tell the woman, and then he very quickly utters the line, "And tell her you get head whenever you want it."

Then he continues.

Watch the movie for it. I bought the DVD just to make sure I saw what I thought I saw in the theater.

It's just wonderful.
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Geoff R. Casavant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 10:29 PM
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37. OK, I remember that scene
Edited on Sat Feb-14-09 10:29 PM by Geoff R. Casavant
Yeah, it was the blind guy. It was earlier in the movie than trying to teach the blind guy how to drive.

I like that exchange too, especially the snarky follow-up:

"Give him head?"
"Be a beacon?"
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Cirque du So-What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 02:32 PM
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18. I seem to be stumped
Edited on Sat Feb-14-09 02:33 PM by Cirque du So-What
For the life of me, I can't recall a line in that scene that could be even be construed as a double entendre.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-16-09 12:43 PM
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43. I thought it was pretty much a single entendre, myself!
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pengillian101 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 10:44 PM
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39. Just let me say what a fan I am.
I have loved Redford for decades! I went as a guest to a fancy fund-raising party in the 1980's in Minnesota and he was the speaker at this private party. Ooh, la, la, what a place!

Not only did I get an autograph - but every attendee got an individualized photograph with him! What a great Christmas card I sent that year, lol!

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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 01:36 PM
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2. The score is fantastic as well.
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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 06:06 PM
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34. I'm Been Trying To Find It
I cannot.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 09:42 PM
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36. Agree.
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panader0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 01:47 PM
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5. Oh yeah, the movie. I thought this post was about his shoes.
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Cirque du So-What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 01:52 PM
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6. One thing's for sure...
his sneakers weren't PUMAs!
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Ellipsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 01:56 PM
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7. "Too Many Secrets"
Great film.
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Salviati Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 02:31 PM
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17. "Cooties Rat Semen"?
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Ellipsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 03:53 PM
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27. "I want peace on earth and goodwill toward men."
Edited on Sat Feb-14-09 03:53 PM by Ellipsis
Whistler: I want peace on earth and goodwill toward men.

Bernard Abbott: We are the United States Government! We don't do that sort of thing.

Martin Bishop: You're just gonna have to try.

Bernard Abbott: All right, I'll see what I can do.

Whistler: Thank you very much. That's all I ask.
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 01:58 PM
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8. I need to watch it again with national security in mind.
I've always thought of it as a hacker film.

Dan Ackroyd = Mother :rofl:
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.... callchet .... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 02:02 PM
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9. Do you know that the Movie "China Syndrome"
Edited on Sat Feb-14-09 02:04 PM by .... callchet ....
was made before the Three Mile Island accident, and it described it almost perfectly. "The film THE CHINA SYNDROME's release two weeks before the nuclear accident is dismissed as an interesting coincidence"
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 02:14 PM
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11. Consider -
the movie had been filmed almost two years before the Three Mile Island episode.

Two years.
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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 02:25 PM
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15. Is that a line from 'Sneakers'
or are you pointing this out?
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.... callchet .... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 03:24 PM
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22. Just the relationship bewteen movies and real life
whether coincidental or not, but interesting.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 03:27 PM
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24. Good Writers Are Talented At Plausible Scenarios, Logical Chains of Events
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 10:40 PM
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38. Remember this?
The willing suspension of disbelief.

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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 11:33 PM
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41. Aye
Some of us are tougher than others :)
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csziggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-09 12:32 AM
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42. Another coincidence - The National Geographic issue for that month was about nulcear power plants
And what could go wrong. I've always wondered about those three things happening at the same time.
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biscotti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 02:22 PM
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14. Michael Clayton reminds me of
Monsanto,when they intrude with their evil & loathsome hold they have on farming communities around the world, .
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 02:28 PM
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16. That's a very cool film
Edited on Sat Feb-14-09 02:31 PM by Zomby Woof
Robert Redford, David Strathairn, Ben Kingsley, and Sidney Poitier, all in fine form, and having great fun. :thumbsup:

"There's a war out there, old friend. A world war. And it's not about who's got the most bullets. It's about who controls the information. What we see and hear, how we work, what we think... it's all about the information! "
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 02:33 PM
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19. The exchange that gets me is:
Cosmo- Posit: People think a bank might be financially shaky.

Bishop- Consequence: People start to withdraw their money.

Cosmo- Result: Pretty soon it is financially shaky.

Bishop- Conclusion: You can make banks fail.

Cosmo- Bzzt. I've already done that. Maybe you've heard about a few? Think bigger.

Bishop- Stock market?

Cosmo- Yes.

Bishop- Currency market?

Cosmo- Yes.

Bishop- Commodities market?

Cosmo- Yes.

Bishop- Small countries?

Cosmo- ...

=============================================

How much of that is true? Who's benefiting from the current economic mess?
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Cirque du So-What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 02:37 PM
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20. Yes, that one was certainly prescient
Cui bono? (Who benefits?)
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 03:26 PM
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23. The usual suspects.
Edited on Sat Feb-14-09 03:29 PM by baldguy
The haves and the have mores.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 04:02 PM
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29. !!
Yes, who is benefiting?
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navarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 02:47 PM
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21. well, you've convinced me. I'll have to see that movie. eom
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kimmylavin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 03:52 PM
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26. Oh, do!
Its such a great movie.

Incredible cast, fun/frightening story, great writing, good score.
I could go on, but do I really have to? :)
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Jazzgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 03:39 PM
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25. That movie is great!
I went ahead and recorded it a couple of weeks ago. Every time it comes on I watch it though. I happened to catch it at 4 A.M. one morning before I went to work. It was interesting because I also thought so many of the lines really had relevance for today.
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 03:59 PM
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28. good movie
I haven't seen it in a couple of years, but it's definitely a good one--entertaining and with some insight :)
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NoGOPZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 04:07 PM
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30. great cast in that movie
Ben Kingsley, Robert Redford, Dan Aykroyd, Sidney Portier, River Phoenix, Mary McDonnell, James Earl Jones, Timothy Busfield, Stephen Toblowsky and others.

"I want a Winnebago. This isn't a car dealership!"
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 05:48 PM
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32. The script crackles. I like the way the characters are drawn
to interact with each other.

Great film.

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conscious evolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 06:13 PM
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35. Sneaker Tip of the Day
If you ever have to get by a motion sensor it really helps if you wear military bdu's.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 10:46 PM
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40. Plus it has River Phoenix.
Sigh....
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